Race to the Finish arjuna:

so how do I reconcile all that...who do I break the news to that they're not going to heaven and are going to be eaten by maggots..probably relished more..

why should you be the herald of such "good news" haiN? arre, as long as you know that you are going to meet the same fate, you could let us figure that out ourselves. Didn't you do that, when you decided there were no answers in the bible?

Race to the Finish My next article will be about a non-racial topic: “role of extramarital sex in keeping a spark in marriage”. No, I am not graduating into a new territory, that is Dr. Sohail Sahib’s area. I will stick with my silly nonsense about unimportant stuff, like kids, family, sports and music.

arre pa ji, koi farq nahin parta, aap kis taapik ko chheReNge, kuch tau log kaheNge. . . just make sure you dot your i's and cross your t's! :)

Race to the Finish arjuna:

If I was interested in reading religious texts, I would have stuck to my bible...

hmmmm, if you had stuck to your bible (King James? Revised?) you might have stopped asking who the "chosen people" are, no? You may have even been a kinder, gentler person. okay, so that was a major stretch. . . . *dull tympani*

Race to the Finish stuka #271: i think that might be quite a few of us guessing it was "her", but when majumdar said "respected" i had to question that. :)

HP: huzoor, it sounds like you have us all figured out. is the ISI's reach really that long????!!!! ;|

Race to the Finish i really had no idea that being gay, or a cabbie, or indian or pakistani was an insult. or being jewish. but this is our nirala chowk, what to do lah? everyone's an authority. . .

enjoy your abuse. . .and your hatred.

Race to the Finish It is almost 4 a.m in this part of Amreeka. I would be waking up right about now, rather than being awake due to sleeplessness. I shall retire and attempt to sleep now.

good night.

Race to the Finish Naqsh,

IF you are not racist, using words like the N-word first of all is not explained away by being non-PC. I do not consider myself to be PC, but I try to draw the line at the point where people's sensibilities might get hurt.

IF you are not racist, then you are a bloody trouble maker!

Race to the Finish majumdar,

and i am simply questioning your friend's testimony, because that very characterization of blacks as being fat lazy asses living on welfare is loaded, and once that is said, any other characterization is suspect. I have no doubt that there are some African-Americans who out of anger, or resentment, or plain ignorance attack desis, but my own experience has been that of African-Americans finding links and wanting to forge bonds with desis. . .You began this with describing what your friend said as "The black people in the USA. . ." and that is where I have to say either you or your friend has taken something horrible that has happened in one section of one town in the US and applied it at a larger scale. And that's just ridiculous.

Race to the Finish majumdar,

well then you should know that there are Pakistanis, and I will refrain from making generalizations as your friend did who are prejudiced bigots, and consider black people to be as low as some of them think certain Pakistanis are. You may not have reason yourself to disbelieve her testimony but you should definitely question it.

Fortysomething years ago, my father was in this country, my father being a Pakistani Punjabi who is actually lighter in complexion than I am. And as a struggling resident in a clinic/hospital, he was told by a white man that he did not want to be seen by a "n----r" Now granted, that was fortysomething years ago, but Pakistanis or Indians should be under no illusions about being spared of racism or bigotry from certain Americans, and they are not all black. The terminology may change over time, but some of the attitudes are still very much there.

Race to the Finish nkg:

The racial problem has been a problem (and still is) for those who you call "chinks" and "Japs". Perhaps you should read up on some history before asking these questions. Perhaps you have not heard of the Chinese exclusion act, or the fact that Japanese-Americans, were put in " relocation camps" during WWII, and that was not for their protection. That was racially based. Asians in America have made strides as well, but it was not too long ago that they were addressing issues regarding racism and prejudice.

And nkg, I do not know where you live right now, but the terms "chink" and "jap" are considered derogatory in this country and racist. So please check yourself before you defend your own against the charge of racism. Thank you.


majumdar:

you are joking right? Do tell me that you do not take the words of whoever that was seriously? Good grief!

and calling me ana would suffice. i don't like the "ji" added. . . thanks :)

Race to the Finish HP:

You read selectively then. At least Masadi admits that there are Pakistanis who are racists. He blames it on the influence of the white man. . . Naqshbandi is one of us is he not, and he participated in a racist joke on this very thread. Naqshbandi has said racist things on other occasions which he will most likely deny vehemently. Racists do not think they are being racist, or if they aren't racist they are just plain ignorant. . .

Race to the Finish rf786 (131)

You probably know more about the Prophet PBUH and his followers than I do so I'm not certain why you're asking me that question. I was just responding to what I know about some Pakistani Christian males, being of the community myself. It's not like Harimau was genuinely interested anyway.

If you have to ask why the Prophet and his followers "adopted" a Jewish custom, or tradition, then you might also ask why Musa and Daoud and Issa are of the book. They're all Jewish too.

Actually, Christian males do not have to be circumcised. . . according to the New Testament, but some still observe certain things from the Old. . .

Race to the Finish okay, class, one of your future missions, should you choose to accept it, is to read Michael Eric Dyson's "April 4th 1968", (for the unaware: the title is the date Martin Luther King Jr. was murdered) and then we can talk about it. . . someday.

On April 4, 1968, at 6:01 PM, while he was standing on a balcony at a Memphis hotel, Martin Luther King, Jr. was shot and fatally wounded. Only hours earlier King--the prophet for racial and economic justice in America--ended his final speech with the words, "I may not get there with you, but I want you to know tonight, that we as a people will get to the Promised Land."

Acclaimed public intellectual and best-selling author Michael Eric Dyson uses the fortieth anniversary of King's assassination as the occasion for a provocative and fresh examination of how King fought, and faced, his own death, and we should use his death and legacy. Dyson also uses this landmark anniversary as the starting point for a comprehensive reevaluation of the fate of Black America over the four decades that followed King's death. Dyson ambitiously investigates the ways in which African-Americans have in fact made it to the Promised Land of which King spoke, while shining a bright light on the ways in which the nation has faltered in the quest for racial justice. He also probes the virtues and flaws of charismatic black leadership that has followed in King's wake, from Jesse Jackson to Barack Obama.

Always engaging and inspiring, April 4, 1968 celebrates the prophetic leadership of Dr. King, and challenges America to renew its commitment to his deeply moral vision.

have a good day!

Race to the Finish harimau #80

On the other hand, Yousuf Yohanna embraced The True Faith.

Question here: did Yousuf Yohanna have to be circumcised? For how long couldn't he play cricket afterwards? How about have sex? Inquiring minds want to know.

This may come as a shock to you, or perhaps not, but Christian males in Pakistan do get circumsised. So it's very possible that Yousaf was circumsised looooong before his conversion to Islam. And if that's the case, the other questions don't apply.

I may regret having answered this question in seriousness.

Race to the Finish Madani sahib, with all due respect, the Brits popularized "Paki" long before arjun did. The difference being some Brits used it as a slur towards all desis, whereas here some Indians use it towards more Pakistanis than less.

The difference not being in the quality of the word itself, but the quantity of those it is used against. . .

Race to the Finish Kul: what's wrong with reading Reader's Digest, or drinking Ovaltine? Didn't you like Ovaltine as a nanna munna?! Oh, the chocolate powder in that reddish (orangish?) can. My mommy tells me the Ovaltine in the purana desh was much better than the one they sell here.

And what's wrong with nerds? Gosh, I hope our paths never cross! (self-proclaimed nerd)