Myths Surrounding the Lawyer’s Movement ameer mukhtar esq.:

see you fit so perfectly into the arrogant circle of some of those holding different opinions here. your responses to just about everyone indicate that you couldn't care less about differing opinions as you accuse HP of not respecting.

this is only your first article here, and already you've fit into Chowk perfectly by fighting fire with fire, thinking your fire burns differently from the rest.

Masadi's fault does not lie in that he received a poor education. It might lie somewhere in the fact that he is single-minded in purpose and does not suffer fools particularly clueless elitist fools gladly.

And since you must find fault. . . your fault lies in that you think your education is so much better than the rest of ours, yet you've failed to use it in this article. . . .

Myths Surrounding the Lawyer’s Movement ameer mukhtar esq:

I do not always follow Pakistani politics that closely either, but I would not have written a somewhat "authoritative" opinion article about it if that were the case. I don't know what your focus is if any as a political analyst, but this article left me wondering what the point was here.

So you see, your condescending offer to edit Asadi's articles is rather amusing considering the lack of clarity and information you possess here.

I think the only thing I really could have come close to crediting you with here is that if you had written "be that as it may" one more time, you would have earned it as your takiya kalam.

Dancing on Broken Glass and unflinching idealism should be flinching cynicism. :)

Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice ummm, errr, harish, one would think you missed yasser terribly the way tum usske peechay par gaye ho.

or vice versa. :)

har baat maiN gandhi ko laanay ki kya zaroorat hai. . . (although this was majumdar's doing)

Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice majumdar:

that is not what Zee said. that is what the Prophet Mohammad PBUH said.

the rest of your post is not deserving of a response.

Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice majumdar:

since there seems to be somewhat of a sarcastic (or idiotic) tone in your the lawyers must be really dumb to risk being laThi charged, i don't know that i should continue this argument with you.

Students speaking out in their schools for one thing. Any discussion of politics was banned in my school, because of how passionately we felt about what was going on, from both sides. And we were fifteen and sixteen year old teenagers, for crying out loud. Protest does not have to be marching on Mall Road or anything like that. And as Yasser says, countless people felt that what happened to Bhutto was unjust and we mourned.

Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice majumdar:

you conveniently forget that martial law had been declared in Pakistan, that the surma-eyed Zia-ul-Haq had taken over, and anything resembling mass protests on a wide scale would have been met with laThi charges amongst other things.

That is not to say that there was NO protest at all, it is to say that there are various forms of protest, and that Bhutto's sentencing and hanging did not go without them.

You weren't there. You don't know.

Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice I, for one, can't take majumdar seriously. Especially when he makes remarks like it was just that no one lifted a finger to save Bhutto's life. *rolling eyes ikaan*

The Wrong Mix Nadeem:

Yaar, don't take this the wrong way, but please bring us back some more fiction (other than this article which is being called fiction)

Barai meh'rbani ho gi. :)

Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries acha. that's too bad. :(

Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries cheema: kaunsa list re?

Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries G'day cheema!

Done with work, eh?

Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries arjun: believe it or not, nanna or nannhi is one of my "real" nicknames so thank you. even if you didn't mean it kindly. :)

Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries Beejay:

Your continued veiled references to me are amusing. I'm not treating Tahir like a newbie. I know how long he's been here. Even more reason for him to not blame presences such as yours on the Chowk staff.

And if you can lecture, and Tahir can lecture and threaten, then what's to stop me from doing it?

You're just being your usual stalkerish self Beej. Koi baat nahin. It's all good.

Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries Tahir:

If arjun and some of his compatriots are RAW agents, then what does that make you and some of our compatriots agents of -- besides Allah?

And if arjun is half a man because of his extreme dislikes and unbeliefs, then some of our own compatriots are half men because of their extreme dislikes in spite of their beliefs.

We are all hypocrites here of our own device Tahir. And if I did deliver a strong left-hook to arjun, it has had no asar on him whatsoever. if arjun does believe in anything it is in not giving anyone the power to offend, or abuse him. He holds on to this power, and doubly offends those who try. That is far different from you, or I, or a lot of interactors, especially Pakistani ones. At this point, I do not know who is the better, the offended or not offended, but I do know that either way it makes no difference. It equals out in the end somehow.

If you want to continue to fight his "hate-speech" calling him a RAW agent, or anyone else calling him a cockroach is not going to make one bloody difference. I don't pretend to know arjun, but I have been here long enough and talked to him enough to know this: He has no moral ground to stand on. You, supposedly do. And if you wish to continue playing fire with fire, then more power to you. You have already shown to some extent that is not beneath you. Making threats however, on the internet, whether en serio or not only gives him more points, not you.

Ignoring him is best, hard as that is to do.

And one more thing Tahir, blaming the "murtid" owners for the behavior of others is unfair. There has not been a proper moderation system here for years now, and while perhaps the owners who put this together should do something, like maybe disband the site all together if they cannot afford such a system, they are not the only website to be without one. In the end, Chowk owners are not responsible for our actions. We are. So if you do go and make good on your threat against arjun, please be a full man and take the responsibility yourself and not blame it on the owners. :)

Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries well i guess i know what that means.

this is more than trash talk arjuna. i know i have options, but so do you, and it is really unfortunate that that you refuse to consider them. i mean, in the end, what is really different between you and the way zeemax trashes women or anyone else? I can't even talk to you about moral standing because you don't believe there's such a thing as morality.

In the end, what it really is, is that some of you, mostly men, have an agenda here and nothing else really matters except for your childish idiotic pleasure at making your points. There is such a thing as taking the higher ground, but as I've been reading, men who call themselves good Muslims don't even know what that means.

I mean we all know arjuna, that you can constantly bring up Mo and Aisha, or Mukhtaran bibi, to throw in our faces, but not because you really care about what happens to women or six-year old girls, but only to "trash" Islam and "Pakis". And some of the "Pakis" say that about Indian women as well, hell, even our own, when we go outside of our "hadd" which they have so mercifully given us.

It's more than trash talk arjun. And it's unfortunate that's the only way you see it. And bloody pathetic. Using "the internet is a messy place" is just a cop-out and an excuse for you to be an arsehole.