Evian and Roy Goebbles said that if you repeat a lie hundred times it becomes true. Sixty years after Goebbles died, Urstooly, his ardent disciple has taken the charge. The REAL FACTS

These numbers are from PTI:

Total Pakistani terrorists sent to jahannum until August by Indian Occupation forces.....1686

Total Pakistani terrorists sent to jahannum only in August....136

Jihadis sent to jahannum so far this year.....1912

Pakistani agents and goondas of terrorist outfits sent to hell by Indian occupation forces this year......1052

Total Kashmiri citizens murdered because of the Pakistani terrorist firing......634

Number of brave Indian jawans who gave their life for their country......226

Number of terrorists sent to hell last year .......2726

The April Fool Referendum Shrink2

``plus lotsa others with lower case ``L`` (l) replaced with upper case ``I`` and vice versa. :-)

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Should we upgrade hydra from 12 head to 24 head now :-)

Good-Riddance Dhanyawad Banjara. As you say...

Good-Riddance Kabuliwallah

I am sorry if I was harsh. Actually I was quite pissed off when you said that Lord Ram did not exist without any proof. Note that I am not using this as the pretext for demotlition of any mosque. For in my own worldview, I believe that ``mann changa to kathauti mein ganga``. Lord Ram`s life story teaches us about the morality and I can never approve of any act that causes unnecessary violence towards anyone. Lord Ram does not exist in idols, but in the hearts of the majority Hindus. You dont need to go to any mandir if your heart is pure. If you had been at chowk for some time, you would know that I am one of the diehard opponents of RSS and their ``Hindutva`` brand. But I am a proud Hindu nevertheless.

Good-Riddance Kabuliwallah

``. The sad part is, Hindus believe that the events in their`` holy texts ``actually happened. Which is impossible if you take the religious texts at their word. It is well know that time is divided into Yugas (Treta, Dwapara, Kali etc) and each in turn runs into dozens of thousands of years. Either Hindus have been freakishly living on this planet far too longer than others or the texts are wrong. ``

Man. you have got some problem. The so called Abrahmic religions also believe that the world began in 4000 B.C. and that the God ``created`` everything in six days. If you have the guts, come out in open and say that all the Abrahmic texts are wrong and let me see if you can escape the blashphemy law. Ever heard of Al-Aqsa in mosque in Israel where people have been killed by thousands. Go to Israel and try proving it to people that Prophet Muhammad could not have rose to heaven from that mosque. Try convincing people that since NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE(Time ) has ever been discovered of whether anyone called moses or David or Solomon ever existed. Go and try convincing people that Jesus was actually a .... So you look the other way when it is atught to the people that Moses parted Red sea and argue with Hindus when they say Hanuman jumped over sea to reach Lanka. Typical disgusting p-sec. Try convincing people that Jesus could not have walked on water or rose after death. Does that falsify Judaism, Christianity etc.

Why are all the answers to be scientifically rigorous demanded only from Hinduism? Is it because we are so telerent that you know you can abuse our religious figures and get away with. Should we also enact a blashphemy law? The foundations of any religion are based on faith and the beliefs of the people. I believe that like Homer`s Odyssey, Valmiki Ramayana also recounts a real story if we take out of it the unnatural exaggerations. And Ramayana and Mahabharat are cornerstones of our culture. People derive their inspiration from them and learn their basic lessons in morality. Hindu religious beliefs are attacked with impunity in their own country. It was this kind of grievance among the Hindu population against the self styled secularists who deny the existence of Lord ram but gleefully accept the Prophet rising to heaven in body that was responsible for the backlash in the form of rise of Sangh parivar. You disgusting p-secs have dome more harm to the country that RSS was ever capable of.

Good-Riddance Kabuli

``the Veera Shaivas feel that their beliefs or faith is in danger for whatever reason, then they have the right to defend themselves constitutionally. And if it means, reinventing mythologies, so what?...Its not like they are concrete anyway...I mean, they are myths....if their conscience is clear and they are not hurting anybody, then its all good, hai na?``

The events narrated in Rigveda, Mahabharata and Ramayana are not considered to be myths, even by historians. Take the divine aspect out and they represent our only source of knowledge about the ancient Indian society, their customs, rituals etc. And they are a very important source of Hindu philosophy. So I strongly resent your use of the word ``myth`` that obviously conveys the wrong meaning. You must have heard of Homer`s Illiad and Odyssey and how the events described in it were later proved to be approx correct from archaeological excavations. I believe most of the events described in Ramayana and Mahabharat minus divinity are either correct verbatim or symbolism of some major changes ocuring in the Indian society. It is virtually impossible to write such big treatise and even more diffiult to popularise it had it not been based on some form of actual event. Recent info from excavataions about a submerged city Dwarka, Karmabhoomi of Lord Krishna, being located approx where it was said to be in Mahabharat gives additional weight to my convictions. Once again I would appreciate if you do not use any such word as ``myth`` when talking about Hindu texts. You can privately hold whatever view you want.

India’s Potential Lose-Lose-Lose Scenario Romair

``And it will not do so, until it is forced to do so. And it is about time, India is forced to do so.

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And who will force India to do that. Dum ho to yeh bhee kar ke dekh lo miaN

India’s Potential Lose-Lose-Lose Scenario fawad

``this mushy is a jehadi bjp is bad is getting to be boring

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I dont know if mushy is a jihadi but bjp is indeed bad.

The King’s Gambit: Chapter 4 (The Aviator) Temporal#13

``aishwariya if not mauriya or ashoka?:)``

How many times Pakistanis on Chowk need to be told that it is ``Aishwarya`` and NOT ``Aishwariya``. And it is ``Maurya`` and NOT ``Mauriya``.

The Right To Bigotry THE CONSPIRACY OF COMMIES IN INDIA (A MUST READ)

Look how commie ba$tards are pursuing their anti national agenda through propaganda. I have not heard this kind of vicious propaganda even in Paki newspapers or PTV. Methinks Bengal govt should be dismissed using Article 356 and Communist party along with their propaganda brothers RSS should be BANNED UNDER POTA.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/archive/1020802/national.htm#head6

The Centre today took on the West Bengal government in the Supreme Court with an “anti-national” question paper set for the state’s inter-school higher secondary test.

Solicitor-general Harish Salve presented the entire set of question papers for the year 1992 before a three-judge bench presided over by Justice M.B. Shah, and pointed out its “anti-national” tone.

Students appearing for the Hindi (Group-A) second paper examination were asked to write an essay on any one of the following topics :

National unity and integrity are false political slogans

In Hindustan, there is no place for Hindu and Hindi

Five-year plans are a sham

Statistics on national development are a fraud

Democracy is a conspiracy

National revolution is the only way for progress

National means of broadcasting are useless

The students were also asked to write a précis of the following passage:

“The guardian of national politics… Delhi is a heartless administrative seat, on which sit not elected representatives of people, but anti-social poisonous snakes coming out of the caste jungle. Progress has been destroyed by tradition, education by the English medium, religion by political secularism, human beings by greed, idealism by dirty consumerism… Litterateurs have turned alcoholic, democratic representatives and administrators have become national villains, who only like secret accounts in foreign banks.”

A choice was given between writing the precis or expanding the following:

“Red Flag in Red Fort,

Is the demand of Hindustan.”

From the Hindi paper, Salve went to the mathematics paper set in the 1999-2000 annual examination for Class VI students in a Burdwan higher secondary school.

“How much money did Clinton give Atal and Pervez?” Salve started, when Justice Shah stopped the court room drama, telling him “not to read any more”.

The question that the solicitor-general was referring to, asked: “All right children, tell us how much money did Bill give Atal and Pervez?

“Three friends, Pervez, Atal and Bill went on a picnic. Pervez bought 750 grams of meat at Rs 120 a kg, Atal bought other food for Rs 75 and Bill gave some money to Atal and Pervez, so that their expenditure was equal. How much money did Atal and Pervez receive from Bill?”

Salve also attached BJP propaganda material against this question: “Marxists, who have reached ideological bankruptcy, are now targeting young students through education in West Bengal. They are making an attempt to sow poisonous seeds, reflective of their low thinking, into the consciousness of the children in Burdwan district of West Bengal…”

Salve will continue his arguments tomorrow before the three-judge bench, including Justice M.B. Shah, Justice D.M. Dharmadhikari and Justice H.K.Sema.

The Myth of Autonomy pmishra#18

``Good work freedom fighters ! I am so glad to hear that ``freedom`` is also now available in Karachi. All well-wishers of Pakistan will help increase ``freedom`` in every part of the country. Fortunately, Pakistan is full of equipment required to create ``freedom`` that no material assistance is needed from anyone.

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Ha ha ha, that was good. Now I know the meaning of ``freedom is in the air`` in Pakistan. ``Freedom fighter``, my foot. They are a bunch of hate filled, jihad inspired murderers who do not even know the meaning of ``freedom``.

Worldwide India-Pakistan peace movement begins? Zafar

``Arre bhai, isn’t this understanding what most Muslims you’ve actually met in person seem to act on? Zara sochiye bhi.

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Sorry, a clarification here. Muslims in India, with whom I interacted in school, college etc are not the ones I am talking about. Actually we never talked about religion in school or college. The hot topics were always cricket, teachers, and girls. Si I am not aware of the religious views of Indian Muslims, but I guess they should be relatively liberal. It was the views of the Pakistani orthodox Muslims on Chowk that I was pointing out like Asif Naqshabandi, Urstruly,Asim etc.

What it means to be me in Corporate America? Umer#37

I have not read a more sincere and honest post from any Pakistani in a long time. You are smart, and you know that the real reason behind British prosperity was not Koh-i-noor :-). So learn the strengths of the more successful people and emulate them. God-willing you can beat the goras in their own game like Japanese. But then you HAVE to have the character for doing this. Best wishes.

Worldwide India-Pakistan peace movement begins? wadera

``Akash, Mr tahmed321 follows the Islam that all muslims are told to follow. While I do believe tahmed321 is definitely unique, I hope he will forgive me for saying that he is not unique in his interpretation - it IS what Islam teaches. All the great (and some not so great) Islamic teachers (past and present) give us similar interpretations. This being the media age, we are subject to whatever the media chooses to emphasise, and unfortunately, most of it does not focus on what Islam really teaches. What makes good news copy (and propaganda) is the words and actions of maniacs and extremists.

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I hope you are right. There is still hope if what you say is true. But I have been on this board for quite some time by now. And the greatest opposition to Tahmed`s interpreatation always comes from the orthodox Muslims. Anyways I found his interpretation in agreement with the principle of humanism, a respect for diversity of faiths/beliefs and secularism, something I dont read comming from the muslims too often.

Coney Al Jazeera fawad

``akash:

``do you find latinas at bars or at clubs?``

Oh no, dear. She was my classmate.

Worldwide India-Pakistan peace movement begins? I dunno what ``religion`` Tahmed follows but definitely his interpretation of Islam and Koran appears to be very unique and humane. Obviously most of his coreligionists dont agree with him. I care little about what Koran ``actually`` says, but if any person interprets the Koran in such a way that it is consistent with secularism, mutual respect for the difference of opinions and humanity, his ``personal religion`` is indeed laudable.