Earthquake Relief Efforts Re: # 33

Well said. In my world too it is lunacy. But what can one do? I remember at the time of the Gujarat earthquake a few years ago a plane load of life saving aid supplies from Pakistan just stood there because our Indian authorities refused to accept/clear the aid supplies. It was allowed, I think, after four or five days to unload. A full 96 t0 120 hours lapsed between their offer and our acceptance as if the blankets, tents and medicines would write [intelligence] back home! Now I ask you!!

Lunacy? You bet. But what can we do?
Hey, human lives first and politics later!!


[What if the Americans had brokered that one too? It`s scary.]

Earthquake Relief Efforts Re: # 32

Sorry, I neglected to add the following:

The Edhi Foundation:

USA USA Edhi international Foundation.
42-07 National street
Corona, New York, 11368 USA
Tel: (718)(639-5120)
Fax:(718)(335-1978)

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United Kingdom United Kingdom Edhi International Foundation,
7 Shakespeare road,
Finchley, Central London N3 IXE,
United Kingdom.
Tel:(081)(346-9232), (081)(349-0296)

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Canada Canada Edhi Charitable Foundation, Inc.
100 McLevin Avenue,
Scarborough, Ontario B 2V5, Canada.
Tel/fax: (416)(293-4899)

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Japan Japan Edhi International Foundation,
RM 101 COPO Nikkei, 1-25 4-Chome,
Minami-ohi Shinagawa -KU-Tokyo 140 Japan.

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Australia Australia Abdul Sattar Edhi International Foundation,
Level 20, Picadly tower,
133, Castle reagh street, Sydney 2000,
Austrailia.
Tel: 02-2646499, 03-3767-7282
Fax: 03-3764-4395, 02-264-7337

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Bangladesh Bangladesh Edhi International Foundation Inc,
2/2 Purana palton, 3rd Floor,
Dhaka - 1000

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Network | Communication Network | Zonal Set-up | Foundation`s Network | Offices Throughout Pakistan
Home | History | Ideology | Resources | Activities | Future Plans | At a Glance | Press Releases | e-mail

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Earthquake Relief Efforts Re: # 18

[#s 13, 16, 18, 30 etc]

The following are going to `cost` as close to zero as possible in `overhead` and administration. The only other alternative is to send your funds to your trusted friends and colleagues. I have noticed an overflow of `honesty` and zeal since last four days. I hope it is self sustainable. One or two people I know are already in the field as volunteers and doing the `zero` overhead transfer of funds.

Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Donations to Victims of earthquake:
https://icnany.org/Donation/Donation.php?a=relief

Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Donations to Victims of earthquake:
https://icnany.org/Donation/Donation.php?a=relief

Earthquake Relief Efforts Re: # 13 [and #16]

The following information is being used quite comonly, it appears, by the donors: [the best is by using your credit cards through Pay Pal etc.]

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See message:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lahore/message/11956

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For international telegraphic transfer these donations can be deposited in any bank through: Swift Code: (UNILPKKA)
Type the word ``DONATE`` and SMS on 436

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DONATE via SMS for EarthQuake Victims in Pakistan

For Mobilink and Ufone customers - SMS the word DONATE
to the number 436. Rs 3 will be deducted from your
balance and given towards the earthquake relief fund.

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For international telegraphic transfer from any bank abroad also indicate
Swift Code U N I L P K KA

Donate Rs. 3/= per SMS towards MKRF Relief Fund – SMS the word DONATE to 436 – Each SMS cost Rs. 3/= + taxes –Send as many SMS as you can. This is a joint effort by GEO, Mobilink and Ufone

Earthquake Relief Efforts Edge #1 is right. For him/her indeed ``its business as usual``. Read on! Don`t believe it? Read #2!!

Isn`t it refereshing though that such edges are only in ones or twos out there? And they will smell soon too, the coffee.

Earthquake Relief Efforts National tragedies of this nature seem to have a positive function of bringing together many otherwise disparate and divergent groups often at conflict in a society.

I am glad to read that such movements are in evidence and at a very copious and extensive level. One hopes and prays for their permanence in our society.

The level of response so far is encouraging. I hope that the financial response is just as good.

About me? I have done my part, I think.

More power to you all. We who have became aliens to that history and geography eons ago can only wish you more power while we do whatever we can in our feeble way!

On the Picket Line in Islamabad #115 rsridhar

RS, they will; they did. I have very long experience with them, of these matters.

They do raise their eyebrows and then some! If you are not aware of it then either your experience is limited or you have been incredibly fortunate where you worked and/or lived. Perhaps the type of your work experience has not been relevant to hiring etc., since your statement seems to be more ``theoretical`` than predicated on experiential observation.

Pakistan The Land of the pure - A Myth or Reality
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#99


So, you fell for this trap too!
The Pakistani establishment worked overtime to see to it that its institutes of technology and [various advanced sciences] didn`t get listed and attracted attention.

Pakistan didn`t want another Pressler or its uncle or brother or nephew. God, do you mean this thing remained a secret? Good show for the Pakistanis!!

The Plan was logical and rational. Regionally accepted students were trained in Groups of no more than thirty each [a section!]. No foreign students were encouraged or accepted. So, there was no need to advertise the Institutes. A few thousand every year was an optimum number.

The scholarship holders from East Africa or Arab States were put through the regular schools of Arts and Engineering and Medicine. Not through the six Institutions each for each gender in the country.

Students from these were put through scholarship programs and through such elite schools as Stanford, MIT. U of Mich., and Cal Tech. Their return was assured. In the fourteen years of the functioning of these sent-overs I do not know of a case but one in which there was a ``drop-out`` and even that is in the process of being concluded in resumption of research back in its mother institute.

You wouldn`t see those institutes listed ANYWHERE!

Of course, you know that I josh.

Gujrat - The Verdict Of God
And what is the biggest democracy in the world?

Where all the citizens have an equal opportunity to be killed!


Ah, but the equation, the mathematics, breaks down here: some have a higher opportunity to be killed than the others.

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#6 by UmerMurtaza on March 16, 2003 2:39am PT
Look people,

I gotta agree with Harimau. India is a secular country to the max. It kills everyone: Sikhs, Muslims, Christians, Hindus... it doesn`t discriminate.

Ha ha. Couldn`t resist.

Hey, here`s another joke: What do you a call a country with a population problem?

The biggest Democracy in the world.

Boom boom!

Umer M

Pakistan The Land of the pure - A Myth or Reality Please somebody get me deliverance from the pointers to the Dilli`s way!

I know where it is. Almost 145 million have bpointed to it

I want to see and join forces with the one[s] who will buy the ticket for it!!

US Attack on Iraq: Just Do It! ana_dobara #1

Very true. It does need to be fixed-- by a vet!

US Attack on Iraq: Just Do It! Found it in a corner of my ``Drafts`` folder. Somebody must have sent it to me as a birthday present. I
thought it should be shared with friends. Dubya is a namoona, tohfa for the world. It is a low-fat, low
calorie, low IQ treat. Enjoy Dubya!

The Village Idiot:

Irrespective of whether we believe in Nostradamus or not, this is really
hilarious....

In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: ``Come the millennium, month 12, In the home of the greatest power, The
village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the leader``

George Bush Jr. speaks out....

- ``The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country.``
...George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``If we don`t succeed, we run the risk of failure.``
....George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a
mother and child.``
Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``Welcome to Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``Mars is essentially in the same orbit...Mars is somewhat the same
distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen
pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is
water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can
breathe.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 8/11/94

- ``The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation`s history. I mean
in this century`s history. But we all lived in this century. I didn`t live
in this century.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/15/95

- ``I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and
democracy -but that could change.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 5/22/98

- ``One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and
that one word is `to be prepared`.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 12/6/93

- ``Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 11/30/96

- ``I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good
judgments in the future.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``The future will be better tomorrow.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``We`re going to have the best educated American people in the world.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/21/97

- ``People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and
have a tremendous impact on history.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``I stand by all the misstatements that I`ve made.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr. to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/93

- ``We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We
have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe.``
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``Public speaking is very easy.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr. to reporters in 10/9

- ``A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the
polls.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr

- ``When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in LA,
my answer has been direct & simple: Who is to blame for the riots?
The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The
killers are to blame.
....George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having
it.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 5/20/96

- ``We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/22/97

- ``For NASA, space is still a high priority.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our
children.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/18/95

- ``The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that
George Bush may or may not make.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``We`re all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on
the mistakes we may or may not have made.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

- ``It isn`t pollution that`s harming the environment. It`s the impurities
in our air and water that are doing it.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

``[It`s] time for the human race to enter the solar system.``
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.

US Attack on Iraq: Just Do It! Is ``maz`` a person or a corporation? Please, Chowk Admin., let me know.

I have enjoyed nasah`s literary wiriting well. pmishra is the Chowk editors` ``plant`` [the kind upgrade auction houses use to raise the bid]. Enjoyed his #55; a real bang!

However, re.#68, pmishra2, there is an adult answer: in the adult section of the video rental stores!!

The Not So Rational Beings #39

In theory you may be right. Why not! If the US Supreme Court can turn 180° around on the ``separate but equal`` ideology [Plessy v. Ferguson, 1896 & Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas 1954] and, in more recent times, take a stand on the capital punishment issue [``Finding the Death Penalty Constitutional; Not `Cruel & Unusual Punishment` ... .`` THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT; GREGG V. GEORGIA 1976] and may soon reverse itself on the Roe v Wade
[abortion; ``SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES; ROE, ET AL. v WADE, 1973``], then I see no reason why you couldn`t resuscitate relativism.

My suspicion, however, is that you will not succeed, not on the Capital punishment issue -- the last thread by which the relativists may be hanging themselves by -- since you shall not have me in your camp. I am ferociously pro-Roe v Wade, and lethally anti Capital punishment!

Of course it goes without saying that I am most savagely pro- Brown v Board... . too!

Can we Stop the War I have found such gatherings kindreds of train, plane, airport acquaintances, in general. With one difference, maybe two: hope is their inner soul; a quintessence of opitimism. I know the reasons why. And they do make a difference. I know that too.

I have enjoyed your essay very much. It is effective, honest, sincere, light and best of all, devoid of difficult words.


PS. I have not read any replies so far. Perhaps that`s my loss; or, my good fortune!

The Not So Rational Beings The title read piquant, I looked forward to some self-entertainment.

This thought has been discarded since the mid-20th century. I wonder how, and by whom, was the author kept innocent of that definitive agreement?

I am really sorry to see it on Chowk since this kind of presentation/communication goes through the ``sieve`` of the editors to determine the survival of the fittest!! Its appearance has been a disservece to the author.