The American Nightmare: No Exit, No Entry
I am harsh because i read the whole article, and got nothing out of it. And on chowk.com, this is the 2nd arcticle which wasted my time.
I swear I could take every para in this article, and just wonder at the premise of the arguments presented. Just out of curiosity, I have subscribed to one Pakistan Labor/Communist Party group in Yahoo, and i usually get the kinds of mails, in which Chavez and Castro r presented as the next answer to USA, and free market economy`s ills r presented in layoffs and bad medical coverage.
Here is a another gem:
``Mainstreaming of American life perpetuate. What this means that all the people in positions of power have the same values, otherwise they don’t get there. Thanks to a filtering process adopted by all corporations that weeds out all nay-sayers, the Corporate only hires its own kind.``
I don`t know which American org the author has worked for, but my experience is very different. Dissent is always encouraged. This is how a free society works. South Asians come from traditional/conservative societies, where dissent is discouraged, women and men r put in some specific roles, and degrees r assumed to be key to a good life-time guaranteed 9-5 job. They come to this country, and get confused at how come Corps could lay off ppl.
BB, this is market economy. you can fire your company and vice versa, at will. I hope you will read the emplyment contract, if u ever get one.
Posted by
freesoul
Nov 19, 2005 05:03 am
Re#81I am harsh because i read the whole article, and got nothing out of it. And on chowk.com, this is the 2nd arcticle which wasted my time.
I swear I could take every para in this article, and just wonder at the premise of the arguments presented. Just out of curiosity, I have subscribed to one Pakistan Labor/Communist Party group in Yahoo, and i usually get the kinds of mails, in which Chavez and Castro r presented as the next answer to USA, and free market economy`s ills r presented in layoffs and bad medical coverage.
Here is a another gem:
``Mainstreaming of American life perpetuate. What this means that all the people in positions of power have the same values, otherwise they don’t get there. Thanks to a filtering process adopted by all corporations that weeds out all nay-sayers, the Corporate only hires its own kind.``
I don`t know which American org the author has worked for, but my experience is very different. Dissent is always encouraged. This is how a free society works. South Asians come from traditional/conservative societies, where dissent is discouraged, women and men r put in some specific roles, and degrees r assumed to be key to a good life-time guaranteed 9-5 job. They come to this country, and get confused at how come Corps could lay off ppl.
BB, this is market economy. you can fire your company and vice versa, at will. I hope you will read the emplyment contract, if u ever get one.
The American Nightmare: No Exit, No Entry
I don`t know which Marxist drug u r on, but i really don`t have any clue what ur criticism is? American companies like diversity, and thats why u r not in streets burning cars. It is a plus point for 3rd world poor yet bright hungry ppl.
Corp is ruthless because it is not NGO. It has to show quarterly profits so that ppl keep investing in it. Don`t tell me u don`t go to WalMart because it sells at lower prices.
Last but not least, this articles should have been thrown in trash. it is amazing the author has MBA degree. Was there an Economics course in that degree?
Posted by
freesoul
Nov 19, 2005 04:25 am
``Instead of a few minds, it absorbs hundreds of minds from all over the world who devote their energy to the survival and profitability of the corporation. The corporation is ruthless, it spits out those who do not bring in money, yet it keeps their work intact ready to be utilized a few years down the road. By systematically buying out competition, enhancing product lifecycles, producing at minimum costs and selling high volume, low margin, the Corporation has become the cockroach of free market economics.``I don`t know which Marxist drug u r on, but i really don`t have any clue what ur criticism is? American companies like diversity, and thats why u r not in streets burning cars. It is a plus point for 3rd world poor yet bright hungry ppl.
Corp is ruthless because it is not NGO. It has to show quarterly profits so that ppl keep investing in it. Don`t tell me u don`t go to WalMart because it sells at lower prices.
Last but not least, this articles should have been thrown in trash. it is amazing the author has MBA degree. Was there an Economics course in that degree?
Unfit For Command
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/miscellaneous/story/2005/09/050921_manzur_anger.shtml
Mushy pees in his pants in front of white or black masters/mistress from USA/UK, but in front of his own brown suboordinates, he just refuses to listen.
Posted by
freesoul
Sep 21, 2005 10:55 am
If u know how to read urdu, read this http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/miscellaneous/story/2005/09/050921_manzur_anger.shtml
Mushy pees in his pants in front of white or black masters/mistress from USA/UK, but in front of his own brown suboordinates, he just refuses to listen.
Mercy beau-coup?
I agree.
There should be a seperate sections for all submitted articles....ppl with free time should submit, and ppl with free time shoud rate them. Based on the ratings they can be submitted to the main public.
I say kill all POWs. I dont even like this term prisoner of war. WTF? if u r stupid enough to leave hoime for killing ppl or getting killed, don`t ask for mercy. Just commit suicide or get out of this world with no fuss.
Posted by
freesoul
Aug 26, 2005 04:22 pm
Re: # 10I agree.
There should be a seperate sections for all submitted articles....ppl with free time should submit, and ppl with free time shoud rate them. Based on the ratings they can be submitted to the main public.
I say kill all POWs. I dont even like this term prisoner of war. WTF? if u r stupid enough to leave hoime for killing ppl or getting killed, don`t ask for mercy. Just commit suicide or get out of this world with no fuss.
Jerry’s Pakistan
Have u ever heard musharraf`s accent. I amost lost my bet that he was panjabi.
Posted by
freesoul
Aug 16, 2005 03:47 pm
just like all ethnic muslmans trun out as potential suicide bomber after madrassahs, all muhajirs, pukhtoons, balochis turn out panjabi in army.Have u ever heard musharraf`s accent. I amost lost my bet that he was panjabi.
Jerry’s Pakistan
``Two sisters sinmging together a national anthem``....right, like we dont have anything else to fantasize about.
No intellectual depth...all rubish....
Bhai, u have seen non-muslims in pakistan for the first time? how many classes they have? There r Ardeshir Cowasjee, and there r bhangis, and there r mere receptionist hindu/christian girls? Are all they same? Just like all muslims r same?
Give u this stupid nonsese, for god sake, just to promote Jinnah`s double-faced sceularism/islamism
Posted by
freesoul
Aug 16, 2005 01:22 pm
who OKays this kind of pathetic family meeting stories to chowk.com?``Two sisters sinmging together a national anthem``....right, like we dont have anything else to fantasize about.
No intellectual depth...all rubish....
Bhai, u have seen non-muslims in pakistan for the first time? how many classes they have? There r Ardeshir Cowasjee, and there r bhangis, and there r mere receptionist hindu/christian girls? Are all they same? Just like all muslims r same?
Give u this stupid nonsese, for god sake, just to promote Jinnah`s double-faced sceularism/islamism
Husain Haqqani calls for Pakistan’s Acceptance of Global Realities
Posted by
freesoul
Aug 15, 2005 05:36 pm
what kind of wig he is using nowdays? I hope he could get a better one after the sale of his recent book
South Asia’s Clarence Darrow
Read Mira sahab again, it is written from the perspective of an ordinary servant in Jinnah`s service. Manto has been careful enough not to opine on Jinnah.
Posted by
freesoul
Aug 15, 2005 12:17 am
Manto never eulogised Jinnah.Read Mira sahab again, it is written from the perspective of an ordinary servant in Jinnah`s service. Manto has been careful enough not to opine on Jinnah.
Reforms! What Reforms?
http://tinyurl.com/c7jxm
Posted by
freesoul
Jul 19, 2005 08:07 pm
much smaller urlhttp://tinyurl.com/c7jxm
Reforms! What Reforms?
Just in case, if someone wants to know what exactly is ``Quranization of courses`` which is worth 55 million Rs question, now.
Posted by
freesoul
Jul 18, 2005 07:34 pm
Saadia Chisti has this email address dr_saadia@yahoo.comJust in case, if someone wants to know what exactly is ``Quranization of courses`` which is worth 55 million Rs question, now.
Reforms! What Reforms?
``To all the unbelievers,
Al-Qur`aan says to the effect, you have your own way and I have mine which means the Qur`aanic Islam.
As such do not contact me any more. HEC has full record of finances, go to it and get the details and then tell me if I have received a dime or not and for what purpose or use?
In future do not expect any reply from me I am a staunch believer in Al-Qur`aan.
If ever you can Biblize, Torohise and Quranize anything under the skies, in just 3 months, send me a copy, I will send it to the reviewers and if they find it Scientific; I will request HEC to pay you what I refused to accept from it.
From Believers in Al-Qur`aan having roots of genuine scientific knowledge.
``
Posted by
freesoul
Jul 18, 2005 05:27 pm
I asked some probing questions, and Dr. Saadia Chisti responded again, and this time, she is really angry !``To all the unbelievers,
Al-Qur`aan says to the effect, you have your own way and I have mine which means the Qur`aanic Islam.
As such do not contact me any more. HEC has full record of finances, go to it and get the details and then tell me if I have received a dime or not and for what purpose or use?
In future do not expect any reply from me I am a staunch believer in Al-Qur`aan.
If ever you can Biblize, Torohise and Quranize anything under the skies, in just 3 months, send me a copy, I will send it to the reviewers and if they find it Scientific; I will request HEC to pay you what I refused to accept from it.
From Believers in Al-Qur`aan having roots of genuine scientific knowledge.
``
Reforms! What Reforms?
Charlie and rv3
Lets not make this artcile a popularity contest b/w Hoobhoy and Atta. We r not comparing the scientific research or the impact factor of these two gentleman.
Do we all agree, a great PhD might not be a good administrator?
If yes, then everyone has the right to be skeptical of HEC projected and earned achievements.
Posted by
freesoul
Jul 15, 2005 07:21 am
Re: # 64Charlie and rv3
Lets not make this artcile a popularity contest b/w Hoobhoy and Atta. We r not comparing the scientific research or the impact factor of these two gentleman.
Do we all agree, a great PhD might not be a good administrator?
If yes, then everyone has the right to be skeptical of HEC projected and earned achievements.
Reforms! What Reforms?
cutehumna,
The slogan of ``national hero`` is a dead horse in pakistan. One national hero was gang-raped on TV by no other than the president, who became the witness, prosecution and the judge. I think this Atta sahab will shudder at yours labeling him as nationa hero.
Lets keep human beings as human beings. Lets be very skeptical of ppl in power. Lets watch how the national money is being spent by them.
Posted by
freesoul
Jul 15, 2005 07:16 am
Re: # 63cutehumna,
The slogan of ``national hero`` is a dead horse in pakistan. One national hero was gang-raped on TV by no other than the president, who became the witness, prosecution and the judge. I think this Atta sahab will shudder at yours labeling him as nationa hero.
Lets keep human beings as human beings. Lets be very skeptical of ppl in power. Lets watch how the national money is being spent by them.
Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan?
`` Legal loop holes do exist in other systems, as well. It is not always easy to prosecute all criminals, all the time. One recent example is of the US courts where they failed twice to convict Micheal Jackson on alleged molestations charges of young children. ``
No child in MJ case ever alleged he sodomized him. There was so semen, no fractured asshole, no evidence of any forced abuse. There were witnesses alleging they saw MJ do something to someone. Their testimonies were discredited owing to their being interested parties.
Posted by
freesoul
Jul 14, 2005 01:32 pm
nauman9 #18 `` Legal loop holes do exist in other systems, as well. It is not always easy to prosecute all criminals, all the time. One recent example is of the US courts where they failed twice to convict Micheal Jackson on alleged molestations charges of young children. ``
No child in MJ case ever alleged he sodomized him. There was so semen, no fractured asshole, no evidence of any forced abuse. There were witnesses alleging they saw MJ do something to someone. Their testimonies were discredited owing to their being interested parties.
Reforms! What Reforms?
``Let me tell you that the amount 50 lacs is the estimate of HEC for a project of three years duration. You better verify this fact from HEC and also whether Dr Chishti accepted the money or refused to accept the amount. Also verify how much she has contributed personally to this project also if she accepeted a single paisa for herself. Kindly let us know your verified facts for otherwise fear Allah`s punishment if you beleive in him.
A believer in Allah and Al-Qur`aan is the message of Allah.
Also share this email with your friend hoodbhoy whoi has said goodbye to Allah and Al-Qur`aan. ``
Is this really true, that Hoodbhoy has said goodbye to Allah? :)
Posted by
freesoul
Jul 14, 2005 06:40 am
I finally got a response from Dr. Saadi Chisti on her Quranisation project. Here it is:``Let me tell you that the amount 50 lacs is the estimate of HEC for a project of three years duration. You better verify this fact from HEC and also whether Dr Chishti accepted the money or refused to accept the amount. Also verify how much she has contributed personally to this project also if she accepeted a single paisa for herself. Kindly let us know your verified facts for otherwise fear Allah`s punishment if you beleive in him.
A believer in Allah and Al-Qur`aan is the message of Allah.
Also share this email with your friend hoodbhoy whoi has said goodbye to Allah and Al-Qur`aan. ``
Is this really true, that Hoodbhoy has said goodbye to Allah? :)
Reforms! What Reforms?
Actually, the original response is on HEC site:
http://www.hec.gov.pk/htmls/1HEC_HE.doc
The doc properties said, it is owned by ``Bhandari, Naqvi & Riaz``
....which leads you to http://bnrlaw.net/ a law firm.
I wonder if Dr. sahab got his response vetted by a law firm, where it got edited by 4-5 eminent lawyers, each sending different version to different channel !
Posted by
freesoul
Jul 13, 2005 01:39 pm
Hmmm...there are 3 versions of Sohail Naqvi`s rebuttals :)Actually, the original response is on HEC site:
http://www.hec.gov.pk/htmls/1HEC_HE.doc
The doc properties said, it is owned by ``Bhandari, Naqvi & Riaz``
....which leads you to http://bnrlaw.net/ a law firm.
I wonder if Dr. sahab got his response vetted by a law firm, where it got edited by 4-5 eminent lawyers, each sending different version to different channel !
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