Tears of a Broken Heart .......And a gay was born

Girlfriends i am wondering if a man could write this article about his boyfriends, without letting audience doubt his orientation !

Sobia ji, when r u going to write pakistani `sex and the city` episodes for Geo TV?

Ashura: Atonement, Mourning and Return Assuming that ppl will not differ on religous interpretation is quite unrealistic of Quran-author(s) and you.

Ashura: Atonement, Mourning and Return kyla and bhitai

read my post again. I am not saying all or any shiites should be persecuted. I conisder myself secular and have been a great proponent of all minorities in pak. Being atheist and blashphemous all the time, makes me a minorty, punishable by death in pak.

What I am saying is that these ppl r so dumb that they see a dead yazid and not a living one. If the civilization is so retrogressive and passive, then u guys better stop romantcisizing its stupid ceremonies and the tragedies and persecution it entails. Shiites (like other muslims) need to grow up, and if they wont, self-destruction is written all over the wall (which might become our wall of wailing in time to come).


And kyla, homosexuality is natural, has been in human history for ages. Enacting historical incidents in gruesome manner, and forgetting about their fight survival is not natural. So protestants arguments dont match mine.

Ashura: Atonement, Mourning and Return If a civilization is so dumb that it enacts a historical incident by bleeding small children, then no wonder this kind of tragedies would happen.

I am not supporting persecution of shiites or anyone else, but come on, stupid ppl deserve this kind of annihilation, be they in Iraq of Pakistan.

And I am not singling out Shiites. Just watched `passion of christ`. The abhorable way in which violence is portrayed to evoke sympathy for a foolish man, is kinda reminder for us that religion in all extreme forms r worst than cocaine. West might have succeded by subduing its religous biggots and idiots, but the danger is still there.

Promise Me Umair Raja & Omer Rafique,

two guys writing romantic poem in california !!

In the last 3 days gays were being wedded in city hall, san francisco. So i guess we know where the inspiration is coming from.

Is Dr. Qadeer Guilty as Accused? Looks like that only USA and its friendly dictator and his cohorts r buying the `official` story line.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A14272-2004Feb4?language=printer


washingtonpost.com
Pakistan`s Nuclear Crimes

Thursday, February 5, 2004; Page A20


WHILE WASHINGTON has been debating the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, an extraordinary series of revelations has confirmed that Pakistan has been guilty of some of the worst crimes of nuclear weapons proliferation ever committed. For some 15 years it has been supplying atomic bomb technology to rogue states and sponsors of terrorism -- and it did so even after President Bush declared that governments that conducted such transfers could be subject to preemptive attack by the United States. Under pressure from the United Nations, Pakistani officials have acknowledged that nuclear designs and materials were given to Iran, Libya and North Korea, either directly or through an underground network involving middlemen in Germany and a secret factory in Malaysia. Officials claim the traffic was conducted solely by the country`s chief weapons scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan, and several associates. Hoping to avoid prosecution, Mr. Khan duly confessed on Pakistani television yesterday and absolved his government. But the scientist previously gave investigators a more plausible account: that President Pervez Musharraf and other senior military leaders approved the deals.

For more than two years the Bush administration has embraced Mr. Musharraf as a strategic ally and overlooked his suppression of Pakistani democracy and his coddling of Islamic extremists. Now the administration must confront the reality that Pakistan`s military leadership has done more to threaten U.S. and global security with weapons of mass destruction than either al Qaeda or Saddam Hussein. Were Pakistan not a professed ally of the United States, its behavior would meet the criteria for preemptive military intervention outlined in Mr. Bush`s national security strategy. He is not contemplating such action, nor should he be. But the United States must ensure that Pakistan never again markets its nuclear weapons technology. That will require more than extracting further promises of good behavior from an unreliable general.

Mr. Musharraf, who narrowly survived two recent assassination attempts, has made lots of promises to Washington since Sept. 11, 2001. Most have not been fulfilled. When asked about Pakistan`s commerce with Iran and North Korea, he either denied that it occurred or implied that he put a stop to it. But Pakistani military cargo flights to North Korea took place as late as 2002. Last fall the United States arranged the interception of a Libya-bound shipment of industrial equipment for nuclear weapons. It turns out the goods were supplied by the network connected to Mr. Khan.

Mr. Musharraf can be expected to go on denying responsibility for the illegal trafficking while promising to stop it. His word should not be enough. The Bush administration and its allies have insisted that other nations guilty of illegal nuclear weapons activity, including Iran and Libya, submit to strict international inspections. Pakistan is not a signatory to international nuclear arms agreements; no outside authority regulates its nuclear programs. That should change. If it is to remain a friend of the United States and receive the billions in aid promised by the Bush administration, Pakistan should be required to commit itself formally to stop proliferating -- and the United States or the United Nations should have the means to verify its compliance.

Twilight Freedom
``I am pushed on the defensive only because you men like watching a woman’s body. It is assumed that it is all you do,``


I am not sure y feminists nurse their victim mentality by stressing this `fact` again and again? Why lack of appreciarion for any women`s `intellectual worth` automatically translates to `objectifying her`??

Yes, men like to check out women because they want to spread their seeds. But when we have done that and are recreating the lost seeds within (that small window of time), we do like to appreciate intellectual worth of our beloved one. Any objection?

Dear Aliya! had the author got laid by Aliya, he would have been still a believer.

Aliya, tu ney yeah kia kia?

Am no God Mediocre approach towards comprehension/need of God and gaining maturity thru experience

February 14th with the INS what a beautiful expression of love and affection on Valentine`s day: accompanying ur beloved one to INS.

I guess, all expressions of `zalim sammaj` in urdu literature have missed this. I wonder how Ghalib have done differently if he would have to visit INS rather than some Angrez sarkar for pension.

Free Javed Burki i am not sure if the footnote is the main conent of the article or vice versa !!!???

Towards Greater Tolerance YLH: ``we should strive to prove that we Pakistanis and our ideology is the most enlightened, the most tolerant and the most aware. ``


If u start any intellectual pursuit with this belief, then it is propaganda not an intellectual exercise.

That is the core fallacy in the whole argument of this propaganda right-wing artcile.

A Work In Progress Just like Osama started pushing the cause of kashmir to recruit pakistanis, Jinnah started embracing the concept of mulims-hindu permanant and divine divide. Those who call him farsighted, conveneinetly ignore the fact that he was campaigning for seperatist movement in the muslim minority areas, and hence endangering the lives and honour of these poor yet emotional muslims. It is like if Altaf Hussain of MQM starts his separatist movement from urdu speaking areas in Rawalpindi and Lahore.

Those who say that he was secular, also conveneinetly forget that he had two faces: one for western media and another for Indian muslims. u can not demand a country on the basis of religion and then insist that it would be secular. By that standard, Israel is perhaps more secular than what Jinnah ever dreamed of pak.

Master of Islam Republican propaganda, at its best.

Concept of Nihilism has been used in wrong context. There can not be anything like Islamic Nihilism. Nihilism is an absolute concept. Do not degrade it by downgrading it to a religious context.

Al Qaeda and Al Aqsa Martyr`s Brigade r fundamentally freedom movements. That they use Islam, and its inherent hatred for jews, is though condemnable. But everything else is correct. Push atheist ppl to the wall, and they might become suicide bombers killing children, yet in some other`s name.

One can however understand ur agony being in USA, and coming to terms with ur Islamic origin (which is like AIDS virus that u can not get rid of, once u acquired), and the western suspicion on u. But lets not lose the correct perspective.

Question Authority
Anarchisim has been the motivating movement behind all revolutions and big social/economical changes. The author`s addiction to this Entity rick band is however questionable.

The appeal of anarchist people and their thinking have always been more with young generation (due to excess harmones, and harmones imbalance). We got another `intellectual` musical group `Junoon` which tries to cash in that anarchist harmone, albeit by hugging Musharraf and military junta, and sometimes neo-fundo Imran Khan. There might be more `anarchist` people who would find their way of `questioning the authority`. Some would use euphemism to mean a number of things, and yet be meaningless.

So what can be done by 17 years old young boya and gals, in this environment of lack of intellectual honesty? Get stoned and get laid, I would say. Give some rest to excessive and imbalanced harmones.