In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful
i think a signinficant number of "dowry deaths" are actually caused by female members (sas, nanand) as well. Also the crimes are not considered exusable or understandable, rather they are called "accedents". There is no biradari getting together and sactioning it. one source of some statistics is here...talks of how effective the chargesheeting and prosecution is (i know, i know..there is little regard for stats from sarkari sources like census OTOH dalitistan stats are considered accurate here on FP..but still)
http://ncrb.nic.in/cii2006/cii-2006/FIGURES_2006.pdf
Posted by
jang
Apr 24, 2008 01:19 pm
hehe HP..anyways, i think a signinficant number of "dowry deaths" are actually caused by female members (sas, nanand) as well. Also the crimes are not considered exusable or understandable, rather they are called "accedents". There is no biradari getting together and sactioning it. one source of some statistics is here...talks of how effective the chargesheeting and prosecution is (i know, i know..there is little regard for stats from sarkari sources like census OTOH dalitistan stats are considered accurate here on FP..but still)
http://ncrb.nic.in/cii2006/cii-2006/FIGURES_2006.pdf
In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful
"Bride burning is also honor killing. How could we determine who was actually burned for not bringing dowry and who was burned for sleeping around."
HP yar, you should give references lest folks think that this wisdom is all your original thoughts. I suspect this came from 2002 HRW report
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/02/0212_020212_honorkilli ng.html
"In countries where Islam is practiced, they're called honor killings, but dowry deaths and so-called crimes of passion have a similar dynamic in that the women are killed by male family members and the crimes are perceived as excusable or understandable," said Widney Brown, advocacy director for Human Rights Watch.
Posted by
jang
Apr 24, 2008 12:24 pm
HP 544"Bride burning is also honor killing. How could we determine who was actually burned for not bringing dowry and who was burned for sleeping around."
HP yar, you should give references lest folks think that this wisdom is all your original thoughts. I suspect this came from 2002 HRW report
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/02/0212_020212_honorkilli ng.html
"In countries where Islam is practiced, they're called honor killings, but dowry deaths and so-called crimes of passion have a similar dynamic in that the women are killed by male family members and the crimes are perceived as excusable or understandable," said Widney Brown, advocacy director for Human Rights Watch.
Little Pakistan: Brooklyn’s Coney Island Avenue
Posted by
jang
Apr 23, 2008 04:55 pm
hanh..and what better way to teach LCM than thru teental?
Little Pakistan: Brooklyn’s Coney Island Avenue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akram_Khan_(dancer)
this akram khan
Posted by
jang
Apr 23, 2008 03:32 pm
no i meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akram_Khan_(dancer)
this akram khan
Little Pakistan: Brooklyn’s Coney Island Avenue
1. yar in all wars, the burden is borne by the proles..so CIA pakis are bearing a high burden of backlash for sanctuary provided by paki elites to jihadis. did the bangalis also get deported along with paks?
2. inshalla a dawoody allanji will emerge from CIA. the jewish immigrants brought with them great traditions of music and theatre from europe which were formative incluences. what kinda influences are the CIA parents bringing?
3. for your empty-nester plans, how about starting a pak-music and dance school? teachign tabla, music, dhol, bhangra and such? we can get akram khan to come as a visitng faculty. the masjid can rent space cheap maybe. set this up before masadi sets up his school of marxism and islami studies with life-time chair for himself (and a part-time lecturer job for neembu). such schools are great community builders.
Posted by
jang
Apr 23, 2008 01:42 pm
great article kulharee..now i will pontificate.1. yar in all wars, the burden is borne by the proles..so CIA pakis are bearing a high burden of backlash for sanctuary provided by paki elites to jihadis. did the bangalis also get deported along with paks?
2. inshalla a dawoody allanji will emerge from CIA. the jewish immigrants brought with them great traditions of music and theatre from europe which were formative incluences. what kinda influences are the CIA parents bringing?
3. for your empty-nester plans, how about starting a pak-music and dance school? teachign tabla, music, dhol, bhangra and such? we can get akram khan to come as a visitng faculty. the masjid can rent space cheap maybe. set this up before masadi sets up his school of marxism and islami studies with life-time chair for himself (and a part-time lecturer job for neembu). such schools are great community builders.
Color-Blind Love
Posted by
jang
Apr 4, 2008 04:37 am
yar kulharee, look at the bright side..at least the kids did not have the standard ABCD issues (talk to neembu if you dont know what they are). congratulations, hope they take some revenge by marrying a madrassi girl and a turki gir.
The Vicious Circle of Violence
Posted by
jang
Mar 24, 2008 01:12 pm
GT sab (Jai Shri Krishna) you are right..the police rosters may not be disproportionate. during british times, the logs were full of Pardhis or Kolis or Thugees (so called criminal castes). my only point is the criminal enterpernuers hardly do it for (primarily) islami reasons irrespective or proportionality..definately not in india. police rosters are also prolly disproportinately low on brahmins or jains or parsees.
The Vicious Circle of Violence
Posted by
jang
Mar 24, 2008 11:48 am
guru, muslims are disproportionately in crime/unstructured bussinesses is primarily a socio-economic phenomenan, nothing to do with dar-ul-harb.
The Vicious Circle of Violence
http://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/profile.html
no dughter-in-law of peace shyte in here
Posted by
jang
Mar 24, 2008 11:40 am
thackre may have...she did indeed become like chief of film industry workers union or something like that and a film producer..here is an interesting profile on herhttp://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/profile.html
no dughter-in-law of peace shyte in here
The Vicious Circle of Violence
http://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/profile.html
no dughter-in-law of peace shyte in here
Posted by
jang
Mar 24, 2008 11:39 am
thackre may have...she did indeed become like chief of film industry workers union or something like that and a film producer..here is an interesting profile on herhttp://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/profile.html
no dughter-in-law of peace shyte in here
The Vicious Circle of Violence
yar salim i am not knowledgable about histoty of the quresh khandan..maybe kaal can help you there :)
Posted by
jang
Mar 24, 2008 11:14 am
"daughter in law"..yar salim i am not knowledgable about histoty of the quresh khandan..maybe kaal can help you there :)
The Vicious Circle of Violence
Posted by
jang
Mar 24, 2008 10:41 am
one day mr baig will write an article on bal thackreys birthday about how shivsena wants to bring message of peace to bambaiyyas where all including bhayyas can live in harmony after they respect maratha sentiments...LOL
The Vicious Circle of Violence
Posted by
jang
Mar 24, 2008 09:03 am
yar the camel urine hadith needs to be investigated carefully..sounds like an insttuction from a zen master. everyone knows that an arabi camle rarely pees. its easier to extract milk from a bull camel than pee from camel of any gender. therefore the instruction for seeking camels urine is really an instruction to search hard for medical treatment..sice its pretty clear that a camels urine cant be gotten easily ;-)
The Deoband Declaration on Terrorism: Why Now?
reality is IF there was good knowledge, and brahmins were indeed the holders of this, they ought to be blamed for losing it fair and square...after all they did not lose the mumbo-jumbo..the puranic tales and such did they? all they lost was understanding of discoveries by bhaskara and sushruta.
they are stupid and should be really scared of harimau.
Posted by
jang
Mar 19, 2008 08:42 am
nkg yar brahmins of today pretty much follow inane rotuals with little-understanding. now harimau claims to be an equal opportunity slayer of the stupid..imo brahmins are holders of a rich treasure-trove. its silly to blame medieval invasions on everything from shitting on the railroads to eating shit...hrimau is watching so be careful.reality is IF there was good knowledge, and brahmins were indeed the holders of this, they ought to be blamed for losing it fair and square...after all they did not lose the mumbo-jumbo..the puranic tales and such did they? all they lost was understanding of discoveries by bhaskara and sushruta.
they are stupid and should be really scared of harimau.
The Deoband Declaration on Terrorism: Why Now?
If an area muslim population increases over time thanks to immigrants means the immigrants find an accomodating environment.
Posted by
jang
Mar 17, 2008 09:44 am
yar harimau, brahmin rituals come across as really stupid to most ..i mean why would you WILLINGLY eat panchagavya? If an area muslim population increases over time thanks to immigrants means the immigrants find an accomodating environment.
The Deoband Declaration on Terrorism: Why Now?
Posted by
jang
Mar 14, 2008 06:34 am
harimau, some baniyas in northrop grumman and boing are trying to get in bed with india but if pentagon had its way, it would have little to do with india. its a very unreliable "strategic" partner..with commies and swadeshis in a parliamentary system govt it can never count on anything. pakistan is a much better bet with a determined military and somewhat unified nationalism.
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