Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds Re: # 38

"..nb didn't mean it like that at all .."

If she did not, she might have said it.

Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds Re: # 31

nb,

Why is that women do not speak up for men, and neither do men? Females do not have a sense of neutrality when it comes to MEN being in jail, falsely convicted. Let us be fair to ALL, and not be gender casteist.

Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds
Re: # 32

Madani,

True, but the fact remains that there are hundreds, possibly thousands of innocents languishing in jails for the simple reason that no one will believe them - BECAUSE THEY ARE MALES.

Can we agree on that they are in jail, ONLY because society believed the womans false claim over the man? Is this phenomemon not nauseating enough for some here? Why do we always wait for it to happen to US before we wake up?

Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds Re: # 22

True, but the fact remains that there are hundreds, possibly thousands of innocents languishing in jails for the simple reason that no one will believe them - BECAUSE THEY ARE MALES.

Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds The worlds oldest liar!

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/008200810101673.htm

Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds Re: # 19

Funny how some people dont seem interested, or care about the false convictions in rape cases.

Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds http://www.anandaanswers.com/pages/naaFalse.html

With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. False rape allegations constitute 41% of the total forcible rape cases (109) reported during this period. These false allegations appear to serve three major functions for the complainants: providing an alibi, seeking revenge, and obtaining sympathy and attention. False rape allegations are not the consequence of a gender-linked aberration, as frequently claimed, but reflect impulsive and desperate efforts to cope with personal and social stress situations. [False rape allegations are reported in similar numbers at college campuses; approximately 50% of rape charges are admitted to be false by the accuser.]


Currently, the two main identifiable adversaries involved in the false rape allegations controversy are the feminists and the police. The feminists are by far the most expressive and prominent on this issue. Some feminists take the position that the declaration of rape as false or unfounded largely means that the police do not believe the complainant; that is, the rape charges are real reflections of criminal assault, but the agents of the criminal justice system do not believe them (Brownmiller, 1975; Russell, 1984). Some feminists virtually deny the existence of false rape accusations and believe the concept itself constitutes discriminatory harassment toward women (see Grano, 1990). On the other hand, police are prone to say the reason for not believing some rape complainants resides in the fact that the rapes never occurred (Payton, 1967; Wilson, 1978; Jay, 1991). Medical Examiners lend support to this police position by emphasizing the ever-present possibility that rape complainants may be lying (Shill, 1969, 1971).

METHODS

This investigation is essentially a case study of one police agency in a small metropolitan area (population 70,000) in the Midwestern United States. This city was targeted for study because it offered an almost model laboratory for studying false rape allegations. First, its police agency is not inundated with serious felony cases and, therefore, has the freedom and the motivation to record and thoroughly pursue all rape complaints. In fact, agency policy forbids police officers to use their discretion in deciding whether to officially acknowledge a rape complaint, regardless how suspect that complaint may be. Second, the declaration of a false allegation follows a highly institutionalized procedure. The investigation of all rape complaints always involves a serious offer to polygraph the complainants and the suspects. Additionally, for a declaration of false charge to be made, the complainant must admit that no rape had occurred. She is the sole agent who can say that the rape charge is false. The police department will not declare a rape charge as false when the complainant, for whatever reason, fails to pursue the charge or cooperate on the case, regardless how much doubt the police may have regarding the validity of the charge.

In short, these cases are declared false only because the complainant admitted they are false. Furthermore, only one person is then empowered to enter into the records a formal declaration that the charge is false, the officer in charge of records. Last, it should be noted that this department does not confuse reported rape attempts with completed rapes. Thus, the rape complainants referred to in this paper are for completed forcible rapes only. The foregoing leaves us with a certain confidence that cases declared false by this police agency are indeed a reasonable- if not a minimal reflection of false rape allegations made to this agency, especially when one considers that a finding of false allegation is totally dependent upon the recantation of the rape charge.

We followed and investigated all false rape allegations from 1978 to 1987. A ranking police official notified us whenever a rape charge was declared false and provided us with the records of the case. In addition, the investigating officers provided any requested supplementary information so that we could be confident of the validity of the false rape allegation declarations.

FINDINGS

Regarding this study, 41% (45) of the total disposed rape cases (109) were officially declared false during this 9-year period, that is, by the complainant’s admission that no rape had occurred and the charge, therefore, was false. The incidence figure was variable from year to year and ranged from a low of 27% (3 out of 11 cases) to a high of 70% (7 out of 10 cases). The 9-year period suggests no trends, and no explanation has been made for the year-to-year fluctuation.

The study of these 45 cases of false rape allegations inexorably led to the conclusion that these false charges were able to serve three major functions for the complainants: providing an alibi, a means of gaining revenge, and a platform for seeking attention/sympathy. This tripartite model resulted from the complainants’ own verbalizations during recantation and does not constitute conjecture. Of course, we are not asserting that these functions are mutually exclusive or exhaustive; rather, these rape recantations focused on a single factor explanation. A possible objection to these recantations concerns their validity. Rae recantations could be the result of the complainants’ desire to avoid a ‘second assault at the hands of the police. Rather than proceed with the real charge of rape, the argument goes, these women withdrew their accusations to avoid the trauma of police investigation.

Several responses are possible to this type of criticism. First, with very few exceptions, these complainants were suspect at the time of the complaint or within a day or two after charging. These recantations did not follow prolonged periods of investigation and interrogation that would constitute anything approximating a second assault. Second, not one of the detectives believed that an incident of false recantation had occurred. They argued, rather convincingly, that in those cases where a suspect was identified and interrogated, the facts of the recantation dovetailed with the suspect’s own defense. Last, the policy of this police agency is to apply a statute regarding the false reporting of a felony. After the recant, the complainant is informed that she will be charged with filing a false complaint, punishable by a substantial fine and a jail sentence. In no case, has an effort been made on the part of the complainant to retract the recantation. Although we certainly do not deny the possibility of false recantations, no evidence supports such an interpretation for these cases.

One of the most haunting and serious implications of false rape allegations concerns the possibility of miscarried justice. We know that false convictions occur, but this study only tells us that these false accusers were weeded out during the very early stages of investigation. However encouraging this result may be, we cannot claim that false charging does not incur suffering for the accused. Merely to be a rape suspect, even for a day or two, translates into psychological and social trauma.

Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds
'Rape' 'Survivors'?

What a contrast of terms!

Or is it just another way of driving home the point that this is more feminazi propaganda?

Salt N Pepper This sounds more like a love story! But well written indeed!

Wonder why FEMALE authors like Amber seem better at expressing themselves, than MALE authors!

It certainly is better than reading her poems ( which female authors seem to thrive in )

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted
Lives are simply not valued in India. Even after so many bomb blasts, the countrys Home Minister sits comfortably, without even being embarrassed! Would this be the reaction in any other country where LIVES ARE VALUABLE?

Of course, religious fanaticism of all religions are oobvious at some level or the other.

BAN RELIGION!
CELEBRATE LIFE!

(And Home Minister,
Go Home! )

There is no ‘honour’ in killing http://cruiserdeep.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ift-sept-2008.pdf

There is no ‘honour’ in killing Re: # 29

nb, You are a woman - so your reaction does make sense.

My principle is - when you see an injustice, never let it pass - ESPECIALLY if it has the potential to be done to another. As a woman though, I do not know if such advice is applicable to you.

There is no ‘honour’ in killing Israel :

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Israel_in_a_fix_over_killer_mother s/art icleshow/3441905.cms

America :

Fight with boyfriend - Woman COOKS baby alive!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/29/microwave.baby.ap/index.html

There is no ‘honour’ in killing Re: # 24

Females, almost by instinct, blame their husbands for any of their troubles. To such an extent, that feminists in India have brought in draconian anti-male legislation, through which females wield enormous powers to extort money from their husbands.

All I was saying, is that in this context, I would be happy if the females looked at their OWN family/father, who would nt give them their due in family inheritance, and would kill their lovers/husband at a moments notice. I am NOT defending any kind of killing.

Unmarried people here might not know it, but whenever there is a problem in the family, the wife usually turns to her father and HE in turn, usually does all he can to intimidate the son-in-law and destroy his family. Male stereotypes help in the social and media ostracisation. Financial extortion is the name of the game, and goes by other names, including 'alimony'. It would be a change for the better, therefore, if the females looked within their own family, and asked themselves if they were really that trustworthy to be trusted with domestic problems.

In all the examples I have quoted, it was not the wife, but her husband who needs police or legal protection - from the wifes father!

http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20080903/812/tnl-more-than-dowry-property-laws-m ake-g.html

In a significant study, that brings out the true relevance of dowry in India today, the CSR has found that female foeticide is related to property inheritance, rather than dowry.

Dowry itself, is a form of female inheritance in India, but has been unfairly blamed on the son-in-law. The anti-male laws, called 'anti-dowry' laws, are misused, when there is a discord in the family, and the draconian features of
these laws, destroys the family quickly. Lawyers and judges are clearly not interested in genuine or cheap resolution of 'divorce cases', and divorce comes after a long time and price for the harassed husband - all in the name of 'dowry
harassment'!

Unlike studies sponsored by feminist NGOs, to show males in poor light ( such as the recent one suggesting that divorces are due to 'male genes'), this CSR study thrashes the feminist propaganda that dowry is responsible for mothers killing their female children, and finds the real reason for the existence of dowry elsewhere - in the unwillingness of the girls parents to share their property
equitably.

Since males rights is a bad word in India, while womens welfare is not, MALE AWARENESS of these issues is a huge problem, particularly among the unmarried, and needs to be CREATED.

There is no ‘honour’ in killing Re: # 4

"Special law is required to protect women..."

Well, in the BELOW cases that I just described, special laws may be required definitely for young SONS-IN-LAW for their safety from their fathers-in-law.

What makes YOU think that MALE lives alone are expendable? Dont they have fathers and mothers who care about them too?

There is no ‘honour’ in killing As Rizwan's and Chiranjeevi's daughter's cases have showed, the Indian girl enjoys a very strange and perplexing relation with the father, who is just as willing to kill her, as he could be against any 'son-in-law' whom he does not like, as the recent Aarushis murder case has proven.

Here are a few links where the girls father has been involved against his son-in-law :


http://www.deccan.com/chennaichronicle/City/Citynews.asp#Man%20held%20for%20ki lling%20sister’s%20lover http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Actor_beau_kill_production_house_head/a rticleshow/3061001.cms http://telegraphindia.com/1080604/jsp/nation/story_9362690.jsp http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Man_beaten_to_death_by_lovers_dad/artic leshow/3139100.cms http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Dowry_demand_costs_man_dear/article show/3139492.cms

Only yesterday, a 30 year old coolie in a village, Bodi, Tamil Nadu, was lynched to DEATH by his father in law, who claimed to the police later, that the man came up to his house 'drunk' ( a huge crime! ), and 'beat' his daughter ( who knows! ). But male lives are expendable, especially for the cause of the huge female ego! The laws and judiciary are blatantly unfair!

There are too many scorned females out there today, who will support this father-in-law to get away with his crime. Too mesmerised by their personal vendetta, they carry it over to ALL males, who they oppose.