Yes we can, Obama! Generally poor people produce more people as they can not support most so after 5 to 6 children they just loose count as upper waalh ka gift if he gives he must have some plan. World wide govts subsidide more children as poor numbers are big and increasing always. If you look at news from poor area person blasted by Talibs generally he or she is aroung 38 years old, with 6 children and one on way.Generally subsidies are successful 200%. Now benzir card will make sure we have always people who need that card. There is psycological problem is that for some no guilt think people think we responsible for for poverty of poor breeding every 18 months. This similar to a White man from USA even poor white unemployed man is made to feel guilty blacks are poor and there is other problem of notion is poor man is more miserable but has lots of virtues etc. That precludes the sensible way of telling poors to stop poverty programs. Only China country is going to do better as they do not tolerate nonsense. If some body gets extra child they punish man through out life and all govt help is with drawn and kicked of all govt help.China has done best is they even do not pay lip service to democracy etc and that protects them from more foolish people controling wise people by sheer brutes numbers. This trend was started by Indian movies as poverty as virtues. Like all heros are poor and good hearted and all rich people evil. Then it reaches height of stupidity as even dark skin colored gets virtue that dark people may be dark but their heart is more soft and good. They do not think brain is given on head to wear cap to protect from sun. They sing songs like "hum hay kale fir bhi dilwale ( we are coal dark but we are good).
Only all govts can do good if in general they help poor but ask in return to stop producing too many children.Now our country is going get some money from IMF and will will gone in no time back to same people , That is not program. IMF should money and tell pakistan to control exploding population as there is no point in putting water in leaking sea and expect level to rise. This like addiction you are providing beer to person as he is addict to alcohol it does not work. At stroke of indepedence country with 40 million actually it may be only 20 million at start for new cut to size of west pakistan has population of 174 million most feel it is 200 million. So in 60 years it is about 8.5 times. With majority of population in child bearing age this will be exploding up.I just calculated with 20 million base to present 170 million growth rate is 3.65% in 60 years. Now population will more go up as people are betting all medicines developed by white man so we live long. White man has not done this good but he wants we to be miserable. He controls his population and gets samall but allows colored people to multiply but does not want him to come to white countries. So if same trend continues in next 10 years population will reach 242 Million. Generally is world phenemenon when there is strife when people are dieing population goes up even faster. Iran and Iraq in their their recent arab persian race war killed about 1.2 million people does it reduced population growth ? No the both countries made up losses and added excess people. So many iranians just after islamic revolution of Imam Khomaeni population doubled and misery has exploded. Iran govt is so afraid of they defied ethos ( Koran say more you produce allah will be pleased) and they want smaller population and help families to family of reasonable size. When excess population is there anxity leads to illogcal thinking. Some fanatic Persian Nationalist are lamenting while persians are limiting population, Kurds in Mahabad and Arabs in Kuzestan are increasing numbers. That tells even potential rich countries but poor country like iran have to control size.
Nothing is going to succeed as population grows and worst the population growth takes place of people who least afford every where. Poor have got licence and objective condition to be irresponsible. Poor has very high throshould of pain compared to well to do so he is at advantage always. By producing more children he establishes facts on ground. Unfortunately we had good white rulers who could have told us to do right things have just tired and left for their white countries. The had power to to be harsh and whip natives but now nobody is there to improve. English civil service people left leaving us to mercis of Babus and we still Ghulam in our country. Most reasonable people in country do not pay taxes as they feel wrong to waste money. Desi elites feels if my brother gets 5 children that is not his responsibility to help that breeding pair. He does not understand why he should be in business of forced charity when he does not have obligation even to help his stupid relative. This is reason I do not like do gooder civil activists they blackmail with guilt trip on us.But they never tell their clients to that poverty is not virtue, they have doctors dilemma. They want misery so they can lead glamamour life of helping poor. Poors may not need but this askals need to have poor. And for them it is lucrative carriers.
Any way due to overpopulation as worlds elits help so naturally populations do not implode and numbers reduced but they help to increase which explodes in Jihadi wars so they should suffer. Jehidi problem is hard to tackle as once jehidi then you are Jehadi, it has no relation to economics is thing of heart like religion. Jehadi can be bit down but jshadi will wait for jehad and after some time if Jehad does come then he will seach for jehad. As water falls from sky it travels from mountains, makes little straems , through plains tributaries in rivers but finally to Sea same all Jehadi are coming to Tribal areas and will end up in Peshavar it appears. Same way finally OBL will take final rest in tribal areas will defeat army of Obama. Elites have all loose but jehadi gains by loosing. Is is appaering like last decades of roman empire ? when German tribals were surrounding Roman and famous armies avoiding to come out and fight, finally imploded.
Yes obama can be in usa but OBL or his buddies have edge in Peshavar, quetta and mind of urban elites and salvates his Revolutionary Romanticsm in Cafes, universities and colleges of Punjab and sindh is truth.

I have tried bring discussion on line of title of "Yes We can Obama".

Hail Obama Re: # 14 Pakistani pele do not like Talibs as they are different type peole. USA is insuting Pakistan all time and not compensating. Now gov or Pakistan people can do much as they have economic life line in their hand. This has created hatred in peple about usa and west. People of Pakista kind like talibs as they punish america and peope feel like revange. People don't like TTPakistan but they more hate western elites. ( People understand clealy difference between and people of west and western elites.) Like they like people of usa so they vote for people of USA by immigrating but they donotlike wetern powers who cntrol pakistan. Hope I have understood clearly pakistan people hate Talibs but they even hate more westrn elites.

Sonal Shah to Help Divide Obama\'s Victory Spoils Re: # 54 Lady may not belong to hindu cult but may be belonging Jain type animal worshipper cult.May be even minority.
People should target that emanuel who is openly jew and friend of Israel. Pakistan causes not very evovative compared to Palestanian struggle even amoung Pakistanies. If left , liberal democratic progressive group is required to go after obamas appomtments to people aim should be at Emanuel as that can get real explosive rection and support all over Muslim Ummah and at that time some shots can be taken at Ms. Shah. Also Obama will get angry and get mad.If it can be shown Ms. Shah had been not sensetive to Palestanians that can be used against her. Or if she had been to insensetive to blacks that can work. It will be duty of Ex Pak american to develop great kinsship to black people and thet will lead to get access to obama. Now we are not same kind of people but with many black muslims can have very near religious and idalogical comradeship. Blacks hate Hindus and Jews at same intensity and that hidden under current to advantage pakistan. Both groups are hated by blacks as they are making tons of money at expense of blacks.
Also more effective effort can be made to attack presently PPP nominated who justify burying women for to be dead. Now we can do much about that as they are powerful men but we can register protest at same intensity.
Our tactical moves are not good. We are ready to do any thing for Arabs but silence of Arabs and all other muslims against Ms. Shah is very defening and annoying. Arabs have been useing us but when it comes to Kashmir they just have no real "josh" they just go through motion of showing concern. Iran is behaving strange nowdays even though president has blood line connection to IRAN. Now Iranian want to price gas bargaining and they want introduce want to introduce clause in case PK disrupts gas to India pk will be curtailed gas. They are playing blackmail games, time has come ask them to shut up and go home no gas needed , Gas from TAP line will be far better.Mr. T called Honorable mr. Hamid as joker is joke as he not even muslim and he has admitted his weakness to alcoholic fluids.
I think I am bit off track sorry about that.Good day.

Yes we can, Obama! # 179 Dr. Sahib it is hoped and understood by yourself just as native writes in Holy script that is not going to impress me.
Just to have clarity of my thinking.
Good day.

Sonal Shah to Help Divide Obama\'s Victory Spoils # Please write to allow Masadi to write.
This is Tamasha of Elites to Ban him like Infantile disorder of Editorial Board .

Yes we can, Obama! Mr. T and D. Mitter.........
I do not have knowledge about population growth etc.
But Genearlly I will not value any thing written by natives and hard to believe they can be objective and right.

Generally if thing is written by white man and in Holy Roman script I take is authentic for reasons too obvious and which are self evident.
Good Day.

Sonal Shah to Help Divide Obama\'s Victory Spoils There was time when Mr. Powell roared and General had to Jump and say Yes sir. Now the situation is changed Mighty American Tiger is Caged in A.stan and we are outside cage. Now Tiger can roar. Additinally the economic termoil has Chained this tiger. Now is time to Climb on back of caged economically wounded and American tiger and take for ride to India and indian Kashmir and little whip him sometimes just to make tiger scream amd roar so Indians will tremble at thought of american tiger. This tiger is mighty but his successful honorable retreat is in Hands of Pakistani Rulers. Last Time China attacjked India and told us to take Kashmir but AYub kind of followed america in hope of peaceful handover , but we made mistake and blunder. Now is second chance when Wounded tiger can be used to get what we want. There is saying may hay till sun shines. Problem with america is they are like humans and do not value the friends they take pakistan for granted and they use and abuse us which is undeserved as we are doping most heavy lifting in A.Stan. Like sex and air people do not value then they get it they will value it when without that they will start dieing. America does not value Pakistani peoples and nations sacrifices ( Please note talk is cheap but when comes to write few billion dollars checks both super powers are missing are missing. As Rulers have regular brain washing, brain washed elites and rulers simple thing people do not understand friend in need is friend indeed ). This is time to force USA to help us to "solve" India problem to our satisfaction, just need little squeezing of Pipeline of petroleum american will start singing paraise of Pakistan and checks will be coming fast.
What Ammerican elites have done is brain washed so many time we are braindead we have become like dog when man quicks still dog shows loyalty. That is what has happened , THAT IS WHY I VALUE BROTHER MASADI HE IS GIVING LIKE SHOCK THEROPY BY HIS WRITING TO MAKE US JUMP START GET OUT OF BRAI DEAD SITUATION.
We should study Indian banias they way used USSR and to get all goodies but never allowed to have Russian base, just milked them and when they sited now new strong cow a american cow abandoned Russian Gomata and they are Milking American Cow and squeezed Nuclear deal as starting. They make drams with left allies so USA can not even think of requesting for base in India. They will milk American cow till she is dead and they worship new Gomata.
All Lafengabazi.
Good Day.

Sonal Shah to Help Divide Obama\'s Victory Spoils This little Hindu lady is fly. Muslim Thinkers, professors and actvists from usa, uk etc, lobby should work on Obama to make sure Jewish Man mr. Emanuel is ok in transition but can not be in permanant team which will take over later. His Highness King Abdullahs of Jordan and Saudi Arabia should convey through private channel to get rid of Jew and hindu if they want to solve Palestanian and Kashmir problems for security of USA. If with such people the muslim mind gets disturbed specially when his Mother liked muslim gentlemen and married. He should show subtle distinction and understand hurt sufferered. Now before was Kissiger he was jewish and made Nixson to give arms to Israel and that led to humilating defeat. And permant problem was developed in middle east. Same way Kissinger hurt sentiment of pakistani people when he wrote Yayya as drunk fool etc. USA is completely dependant on Pakistan as all supply and petrolium and some airbase stationing of Hawai Jahajs of USA is possible due to generosity of Rulers and army. Without Pakistani bases and man power keeping this wars life line going on, without that american guns , and vehicles will come to stop. Pakistan is first time in controlling situation and has power to teach lesson and by Mr. Gandhi type way. Army can say we want to die for america but this pakistani people are tired and they will not allow american envoys to move. America will get message and we will get same nuclear agreement ( which is no good) and Obama/s generals and General Kayani will be planning for dash in Kashmir. Pakistani rulers problem is they are not aware of their power over USA. When pakistani state does not use power it looses power.Now american president will come under fire if he fire them so he can kick them up and give promotion for some useless post, like renewal energy or Aquaculture Czar and Czarina. This should be done by Ummah silently and fast till iron is hot. This is time to give money and employ influencial Jewish lobbist against this. Now some pakistanis are already in action but we can be on right path but if we are slow, we should be Fast or Jewish Lobby will steam roll over Muslim sentiments. Obama has used his connection with muslim father get money and votes and by appointing jew and hindu has back stabbed as usual. Pakistani interests are sacraficed as usual and unnecessarily we feel dejected.
In KingLear King asks daughter how much you love me.His daughter tells him. I love you as father nothing more nothing less. It is foolishness to expect more from American president , He will just love us as pakistnis nothing more nothing less.Compared to Ms Shah muslims should work on Jindhal Bobbysahib as he is christian but inside indian like watermellon outside american inside indian. He can be dangerous over long term .
Good day.

Against Zardari\'s Pakistan Re: # 2 PMS should read PSM, Pakistan Steel Mill of karachi a great white elephant which gives costly steelproduct and dumped against much lesser prices prevailing in international markets, one big permanatant set back who ever uses steel and specially who use rolled and flat rolled products.
(Sorry due my dislexia the order of words changes.)

Against Zardari\'s Pakistan Good article mr.S.Shabbir.
Please do not be pessimistic just now things are going to much worse and present times will appear golden days.
Think about this news.
PMS will be govt co. (It looses huge amounts)
Qadirpur gas field to be sold in 6 months ( It makes great profit ), will be handed over private companies.

Great Socialim by ZABs Son In Law.

PRIVATISE PROFITS AND NATIONALISE LOSSES.

Long Live Peoples Party and Social Goals.

Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India #37,38.
Now I feel there may not be female babu term. This term may have (?) have started with british East India establishment in Culcutta. At that time british would not employ females. The babu term appaers to be related to office job for british officers adding prestige. Or Babu term derived from "Bhadralok".
Di may be more related to"JI" or Haji haji of central proviences. Even today like peole will refer to mrs Madam Soniyaji Gandhiji as " Madam Soniyaji".
Other than Bengal Babu and Babugiri are derogatory term it appaers.
Good day

Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India Just curiosity about Bengal custom and ethos so some body can answer without btwists.

What is equivalent to Babu for females.
Is babu attached to name is complimentary or derogatory.
Great indian patriot Mr. Bose is refered many times "Desh Gaurav SubhasBabu", defenitely not derogetory. While mr. Basu or Buddhadev etc are never referred with tail of Babu.

Are brother or relatives any time refered with Babu.

If correct in maharata state when man reaches and show qualities he becomes Rao. IS Babu used only when you have done something out standing ? It is absolutely not clear. Or first indian president as refered as RajPrasad Babu , sure was honarory attached kitab.

Language is strange only some times person in depth understands.
Here Babu is equivalent to lazy Kachheri going person and who never answers except I do not know and is always busy in something except office work.

Babu= NaukarShah is literal meaning here

Good day.

Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India What is asic ? Shortform for

Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India Thanks Veeresh/Majumdar/Salim for writing article and commenting.. Greatness of Mr. Tata lies in catching and popularising idea middle to lower class Indian family can aspire to have freedom of movement. The idea was similar to pc. Hopefully hundreds of millions Indians can have freedom of movement. Only future will tell if his company was successful or others will be successful but history will note that this man seeded the idea of "people's car.
Computers changed not economics of India real change happened they understood and were happy they can be somebody in world market. Great psycological boost same way a family man can stand on earth and open door of car for new experience for family. He can have same joy as only few wealthy families have. It can be said mr.Ford Sr similary thought and gave mobility to American nation, Tata will do same. One can say very very wealthy world class rich man demolishing rich people's elite dreams of ownership of 4 wheel vehicle.
It is very clear technical advances when they reach mass production and access for masses to new technology have more significantly impact on social , political, economic,sexual( like introduction of family control ways) psycological( new drugs for depression )( social, political and economical effects are too obvious). The key is mass production of tech, producrts and rational prices for large number of people. These technologists are dreamer and they start some little things as Herbingers of coming future. For this such men and women should be respected.

I will ask Parthaa to forgive me what I wrote was imprudent and in anger. At my age there shuold be sublimation in actions and reactions as we are over hump and should listen more.

I will ask Parthaa to listen to music and be happy.
THis is typical Kirana presentation in maru bihag as their speciality is melody.
Second bandish is in Drut Trital , ( all women are not predatory) but caring also. Lady is waiting and awake... Jagoon May Sari Raina Balama,Man Lagena Mora Rasiya...

1.http://www.esnips.com/doc/f271772b-c144-42ad-91e0-b8da40a7ca25/Pr abha-Atre-Kal-na--Marubehag-Ektal.mp3

1.http://www.esnips.com/doc/373219bc-39 63-4d70-b360-959f130d106e/Prabha-Atre-jaagu-na--Marubehag-teental.mp3

Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India Re: # 20,19 Thanks for reminding still I am not mad. There is mean man called mr. Parthab ( #16) and mr. T they have "khunnas" about me. Now Mr. Parthaab has some problem as said earlier like original sin.... Woman. Then now new problem is mr. Tata and some body called mistry. He has some disorder and he feels every woman is ready to attack men folk and they are just after alimony and children grabbing etc and Mr. Tata is after his Wallet.

Now if you looked at my post i was in praise nof bengali people and women folk there. I said good about them. They are more cultured and have good features and said good word about language as it emphasizes "soft tones". I also said with age they still look nice like cows while north of Rahim yar Khan they appear healthy robust as buffollows. Also said bengli language is not profane language like punjabi where people think something is wrong unless you start with abuse specially friend you are seeing after few years. Now Punjabis are earthy people even to Hindustani's from India in Karachi.I also mentioned they have little more cerebral activity compared to Punjabi munda. Fish , water protein is reason.

If Parthaab does not want Tata why not ask him to come to Karachi and take over Pakistan Steel mill for start followed by Nano Plant in Hub Industrial estate,We are short of power ask him to develop power plant.( tata company provide electricty to indian railways and that huge network runs, almost 70% of tracks are electrified) .Give him 10,000 acres of land free and let us ask Mr. Zardari to inaugurate nano and let start rolling and give all punjabi Mundas a platform to roam best subcontinents highways. Sure this will be better than movie imports.May be ask him to put our rail system on electric locomotives.If we can lure him to Karachi will be far better than all money we are going to pocket by Pick pocketting Americans. It is better to learn building building nano , and running of power plant, steel plant and energising power traction lines for railways than leaning and perfecting pickpocketting which becomes first habit , then it becomes character and then destiny. ( I feel we are good in trading,like cement agents and distributors make two times money than producers. This is likepick pocketting . Whilt tata type exploiting is good he makes people to put labor and make goods and services. Pakistan need not traders but people who make). I think Bengali hate tata 200% as bangla desh rejected Tatas proposal to invest highest amount in its history. They get afraid he will stop their political circle discussions and make them work. Bengali intelluctual class feels working hard is unjust and below dignity. Most are not hard working but they are intelluctual too much analysis leading no action paralysis. It is consider in intelluctuals to drink tee coffee and smoking is most productive and they consider virtue as poverty .

Any way I will ask Parthaab to excuse me and forgive me.
It is better to just not trouble othewrs. Good day. Hope not to trouble anyboody much.

Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India Re: # 12 Parthaab babu... I Madanisahib is getting tired of your WHINING all time. If you have complaint is ok but all whining all time is not welcome.
first your are against women all time now most men are miserable without women around and hopefully other way also. You have become Elite/ local from Bengal always compaining against women and whining. Now women have no problems but you have real big problem. When I say big means real big problem. You need to figure out , i have mental problems but i control them. Control and controlis key.
Now do not mean to say you are not good, may be there are women worst than angry buffollows and just strike and demolish man.
Now I do not care that little dingi platform nano indians will drive on nonexisting road ways. Now you have problem with some "mistry". Now we know always there are poor and rich people so why so much to worry about. Now as said before poor need to be exploited and made work hard so they get food.
Now bengali women are good looking but little dark but that due to weather. They look soft and femanine and they do not become fat like buffollows like men and women north of Rahi Yar Khan as they age. Color is compensated by intelligence. Bengali's are intelligent over punjabis by miles and good for them. That is why we let you go and have B.Desh and happy. That is direct result of getting most protein from water/ fish. Also Benglai women speak soft almost in vowells like small punjabi child speaks before they get control on tongue. It appaers music to trained ears and very noticable.
Please do not complain all time against women and now mistry what will be next time. Sorry If I hurt your feeling but you are just getting too much complaing.
Have good night.