Celebrating the Khalsa #49 Kaura Sach: You know my agenda? That is good, because I do not what it is.
You are going to write scathing and bitter articles in the near future?
Please do. Why should I stop you?

It is clear that Kabuli Singh does not know how to read Gurmukhi, otherwise he would have read the DG by now and answered my simple questions instead of going on a tangential rant about Mian Mir.
So you are asserting that GGS did not write any of the DG. His employed Pandits probably wrote it and gave him credit for it. Are you sure? use of word `probably` indicates some doubt and speculation. The link, I found out yesterday describes the whole story. Please give some link that claims the opposite.

You can write all the articles you want, but stick to finding the truth, however bitter it might be. Please answer a simple question about a historical event that you mention in your article, that seems to irritate Kabuli and Simran so much and has put them in such Bhambal BhuisaN.

``Five Sikhs volunteered to lay down their lives for God and the Guru.``

What was the Punjabi phrase for that question? What was the name of the Guru, who was asking for the Sikhs` lives? GGS, Guru Nanak, Guru Teg Bahadur? What was the name of the God or Godess?

Celebrating the Khalsa #48: Bhai Kabuli Singh: Yes you had a lot on your chest. Most of it is your opinion. However some of the historical lies that are being propagated are just that. lies.

`` This was evident after partition where the Hindus of Punjab carved out a separate state for themselves in the form of Haryana leading to the problems that were to haunt Punjab later.``

The agitation for Punjabi Suba was not started by Hindus but by SAD, because it gave them a numerical majority in that area. It was always opoosed by Nehru and the local CMs like Partap Singh Kairon. Indira Gandhi thoght she could manage religious extremists and divided Punjab into three states. She is the one, who gave in to the Punjabi Suba demands.

The so called Hindu Fundooos, that you so despise wanted a Greater Punjab with Kashmir included.

Indira Gandhi was wrong. She could not manage religious fervor. One of her protege was Sant Jarnail Singh, who had his own visions and ran amuck, eventually leading to Khalistan demands, 1984 and Indira`s death.

You can have whatever opinions you want but at least stick to truth in History. Jorawar Singh was not the father of GGS, it was Teg Bahadur.

Instead of foaming at your mouth, why cant you answer simple questions? Have you read Dasam Granth? DO you know how to read Gurumukhi? What portion of DG do you think is a fraud? You should be ablr to answer them without resorting to slogans and NareBaazi like Manto.

Who did GGS invoke when asking for a Nar Bali?

Yes I have read about Badshahi mosque, Hindu Pani, Sikh Pani and all the rest of your lengthy posts. Tell me something I do not know. Just answer the basic questions, I asked you and Simran.

Celebrating the Khalsa #47 : The PDF files are here.

http://www.gobindsadan.org/institute/dasam/volume1.shtml

Now we have a catch22 situation here. The first nine Gurus were not Khalsa, so they looked like Nirankaris and had none of the 5Ks. However only their writings are included in the Granth sahib per Bibi simran and Bhai Kabuli Singh. If any of them had shown up at the Golden temple twenty years ago, they would have been set upon by SAD goons.
The tenth Guru, who somewhat looked like a Khalsa and was the founder of Khalsa wrote many a book. They are decried as work of RSS, VHP and Mannyd`s imagination because? Well just because.

This is coming from a religion that was supposed to be free off rituals and wanted `Sarbat da Bhala`.
Sarbat but exclude Nirankaris, Mona sikhs and Hindus, who are so damn patronising and want to usurp their religion.

Celebrating the Khalsa Stuka #45: The sword has become rusty? Are you absolutely sure?
In that case, Mr. discoverer, take our Sikhs please. Start with Simran and kabuli Singh.

Kabuli: Forty years ago in taking the first ever Giani Exam of Punjabi University, I had to study the following works by GGS. These were certified by Singh Sabha scholars in 1897 to be entirely the work of GGS. This was before RSS, VHP or whatever. It was further verified by Sikh scholars throughout the last century.

Please tell me what you consider to be fraudulent, why and what do you base your decision on. Have you read any of the books before yourself? Or do you have blind faith in some Bhai Bhujanga Singh of NewYork?

The banis included in it are as follows:

Jaap
Akal Ustat
Bachittar Natak
Chandi Charitra
Chandi Charitra II
War Bhagauti Ji Ki
Giyan Prabodh
Chaubis Avtar [incarnations of Lord Vishnu]
Up Avtar [Brahma and Rudr]
Shabd Hazare
Swaiye
Khalsa Mehma
Shashtar Nam Mala
Charitropakhiyan
Zafarnama, Hikayat

http://www.dasamgranth.org/dasamgranth/library/1897_report/

For those, who are interested, there are PDF files in English, Gurumukhi and Devnagri.

Saving the Female Fetus #119 Jang: Of course I agree. Murder is not the same thing as abortion. I favor the free market approach to fixing the dowry problem rather than government meddling into it. Dowry is a problem and becoming worse. Daughters shold be allowed to contest their parents` estate and could use legislative help in that regard.

Celebrating the Khalsa Too many spelling mistakes in #42, but you get the idea.
Kabuli: The question about Chandi to Simran is for you too. Maybe the Khalistani site is still under construction on that issue, but take your best guess. Who did GGS invoke when asking for Nar Bali?
A. Allah
B. Hari but not the Hindu Haria.
C. Guru Nanak
D. Chandi, the terrible one. You know, the one with human skull full of blood
E. None of the above but Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindra wallah.

Celebrating the Khalsa BJKumar #41 : ``I count the U.S. and U.K. based Khalistanis in that category.``

I remember Dan Rather showing Sikhs toating the murder of Indir Gandhi in London with Champagne and Rather shaking his head in disbelief.

Simran can quote what dead Indirs said to dead General Vaid as if she were there in the room right there. She can also tell you what Nehru said what to whom in private conversations. She treats Khalistani sites as gospel truth like the Dasam Granth, sorry the Granth Sahib. What surprised me a little bit was Kabuliwallah lipsynching Simran. It means that new revised Sikh history is complete.
If I am not mistaken, Kabuli was a friend of Manto at Rutgers and had identical political ambitions. The sikhs did not treat him in high regard.

The founder of Khalsa GGS was judged by the Khalistanis and found to be severly lacking. What he said and wrote had to be done by imposters of VHP and RSS. It does not matter that the old versions were there before both these organizations were even born. Apart from the killing of truth, character assasination of a great Indian is just sad.

Celebrating the Khalsa 337 : Pmishra2 `` All indian traditions have become more aggressive and careful about who is a hindu vs buddhist vs sikh etc. a 100 years ago this was not the case. A 100 years from now it wont be the case either.``

Specially when there is an incentive to declare yourself a minority and get state benefits while nothing in reverse is true. VivekaNand`s `ParmaHansa society` or something was at one time appealing to the courts for a minority ststus, because it was not Hindu, they said.

That was my question for the Sikhs. What benefits accrue to them with a minority status?

Celebrating the Khalsa # 37 Pmishra2: LOL.. i do go to Gurudwaras still sometimes, but my timing is impeccable. It is fine tuned to get to the free Langar with minimal time spent in prayers.
There are generally no free lunches in Hindu temples. I tend to avoid them. Even agnostics have to have some basic values.

Celebrating the Khalsa With creidt to Dr. LokRaj, who first pointe dthe news story below:

``Frescos of Hindu gods missing
Varinder Walia
Tribune News Service

Tarn Taran, March 30
At least six frescos of Hindu gods, including Lord Rama and Lord Krishna, which were unique specimens of the Sikh school of art of the Maharaja Ranjit Singh era have been replaced with Sikh paintings during kar seva at Darbar Sahib here.

The upper storey would be opened to the Sikh sangat on the 400th death anniversary of Guru Arjan Dev in June this year.

The frescos were visible on the upper storey of the sanctum sanctorum of the Sikh shrine before launching the kar seva. However, Baba Amrik Singh of Dera Baba Jagtar Singh Kar Seva Wale, while talking to The Tribune, claimed that he was not aware of any painting belonging to Hindu gods on the upper storey of Darbar Sahib. He said most of the paintings were beyond recognition since these were destroyed due to seepage from the dome.

The frescos were unique specimens of the Sikh school of art, completed in 1824 during the regime of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. According to Sikh history, Maharaja Ranjit Singh got the gold-plating and interior decoration of the Darbar Sahib completed by taking personal interest.

The other paintings visible at the time of the kar seva were, however, preserved after a lot of painstaking efforts. Now, all 16 paintings which were revived by using a similar style and colours as that of the time of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, belong to Sikh Gurus, Sikh warriors and religious leaders, including Baba Deep Singh, Bhai Mani Singh, Bhai Ghanaiya, Baba Budhaji, the first head granthi of Harmandar Sahib, four Sahibzadas (sons of Guru Gobind Singh) and Bhai Gurdass. Some of the paintings depict Guru Nanak Dev flanked by Bhai Bala and Bhai Mardana. Jaswant Singh, an artist of Dera Baba Jagtar Singh Kar Seva Wale said specified colours were used to complete the art work and the paintings would last long as efforts had been made to stop seepage in the upper storey.

When Dr Kanwarjit Singh Kang, a renowned fresco expert, visited Darbar Sahib, Tarn Taran, in June 1971 in connection with his Ph.D thesis “Mural paintings in the 19th century Punjab”, several frescos were intact in the upper storey of the shrine. According to Dr Kang, though originally the paintings were executed sometime in the middle of the 19th century, the dome of the shrine developed cracks during an earthquake in 1905 and was rebuilt again and embellished afresh with murals.

In June 1971, the surviving frescos depicted mixed themes, including portraits of Sikh Gurus and scenes from the Hindu mythology. ``

Celebrating the Khalsa #27 Kabuliwallah: Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. Am I right in assuming that you are not a Punjabi?
So the Mahants came during the night after Ranjit singh died and took over Sikhism and usurped their philosophy? New convert to Islam always prays the loudest. Who was the imposter, who wrote `Chandi di var`?

Pmishra2 #29 and Kabuli #30: Do I covet Sikhs? I am already related to Sikhs and Hindus thru blood and marriage ties. If I wanted to become a Sikh or call myself Sikh, there is nothing that Simran can do to stop me. I just prefer the lazy man`s ways and remain an agnostic Hindu and I like it. By the way, the two Brahmins who were tortured and killed to test Teg Bahadur`s claim to fame were my clansmen. Maybe Discoverer`s ancesstors were on the other side of the stick.

Celebrating the Khalsa
#24: Yes it is true. GGS also prescribed protection of cows and Brahmins for Khalsa. Yes, Braj Bhasha was used by GGS. I was thinking of translation into Tamil , Bengali etc.

#25: Will you please refer me to the RSS site or literature that gave me those facts?

And even if I did, what great sin did I commit? It is even more insane to get your revised tales from a hate filled Khalistani site.

The question was what was written by Guru Gobind Singh and what do you consider a fabrication? Take your time before you answer that. I know you are anxious to take lead and bcome chief spokesperson for Sikhism and SAD. Did Golwalkar or his son write `Chandi di Var` and frame GGS for it? Whether it is part of granth sahib or Quran does not matter. It seems like GGS is a great disppointment to the Khalistanis. Have you read `Chandi di Var`?

When GGS asked for a `Bali` from the audience, what exact Punjabi words did he use? Did he say `Guru Nanak wants some blood`, `Wahiguru is asking for some blood offering` or `Allah is hungry`?

`` As far as I know there were never idols in the Golden Temple as Sikhism is against idol worship.``

Well you are just a 90 year old young lady then. You personally could not know what was in the Hari Mandir 100 years ago, could you? Phrases like `As far as I know` are just full of pomposity. Read up on the generations of Hindu Mahants controlling the Gurudwara properties in late 1800`s and the birth of SGPC.

``Nothing has been bowdlerized to anything. Stop promoting your VHP propoganda.``

Oh so VHP has been saying the same thing. Good to know, I have company.
``Ram Japo`` makes some sense but what is ``Nam Japo``? Whose name or nam do Khalistani Japofy?

So Sikh Hari is just another name for monotheistic God allah. He is different from Hindu Haria, who was part of the Hindu trinity.
What does WahiGuru mean?
Wah Guru Wah is just an expression admiring an Ustad or a Guru.
Could you please explain what is the difference between Hindu OM and Sikh Omkar also?

Celebrating the Khalsa Kabuli #19: `` Hindus keep yapping about how Sikhs are only Hindus in a different disguise.``

Do they and how does that affect Sikhs? The golden temple was and is still called HariMandir, temple of Hari. Maybe Hari was the chief Mistri, who built it and not Vishnu, the Hindu God. Until about 1900, there were idols of Rama and Krishna in Harimandir. They were thrown out with the upsurge in Arya Samaj in Punjab.

Recently in the temple, very old panels of paintings were discovered that depicted Hindu Gods. They were removed by SGPC promptly.

Thomas Bowdler was an Englishman, who did not like dirty words in Shakespeare. The dirty word in Granth sahib was Ram, which has been bowdlerized to Nam.
Today I hear about the ultimate bowdlerization, Chandi and Shiva were not part of GGS.

No the trouble lies not with Hindus, but with Sikhs and SAD, that uses religion for politics. How many non-Sikhs, Hindu or Muslim, are part of SAD? Why is such a religious party allowed to contest the elections at all?

Celebrating the Khalsa KabuliwallahL:

``The blame for most of this ignorance about Sikhism lies with Sikhs themselves. They have not expounded the essence of their religion enough to other communities. In India they are mostly insular in the sense that they stick to within the Punjabi community wherever they go.``

I agree. I do not think any Sikh has even tried to translate the Granth into other Indian languages.

A Chowky Prem_something became a Sikh at one time. Was that you? If yes, probably you were the first Sikh from Karnatka since Banda Bahadur. What was your experience that turned you off?
The morning prayers are still broadxast on Z tv in USA at east. Of course, there are no sub-titles.

Simran: Dasm Granth is not a part of Granth Sahib? OK, which portion of it was written by the Dasam Guru in your opinion? Is Chandi di Var a fabrication too?

Celebrating the Khalsa #1: Salim Bhai: Ranjit Singh was a good Maharajh but not a man of the same calibre as GG Singh. You have mentioed this before, but can you please give some reference, where you saw the orders about 3000 Afghan women? They might have been just war booty to be distributed to Sirdars. Mohammad Shah writes about how Rani Jinda incited Khalsa army into attack with visions of plunder and Gori women in Delhi.

GGS was fighting the Turks ( Sorry!) and not Muslims per se. He had even specific instructions to never molest or touch a Muslim lady. It was flaunted during 1947 in E. Punjab of course.

Celebrating the Khalsa Pretty good article KS, definitely could be longer.
A minor point about call from God for Panj Payare. It was a Godess, specifically Godess Chandi, also known as Durga elsewhere. Guru Gobind Singh also wrote ` Chandi di War`. Chandi Garh, the new town in the area where Guru ruled at one time was also named after the same Chandi.
After baptizing the Khalsa, the Guru was in turn baptized by them.
``Ape Guru, ape Chela` asked Shiva for only one blessing. To stick to the straight and narrow path of Shubha Karman fearlessly, and to fight with determination for victory when something happens. Does anyone remember what that something was?