Reinterpretation of Islam in Turkey
cheemaji,
Trying to teach anything to tahmed is like casting pearls before a swine. He is incapable of learning. All he needs to learn, he already learned from the book. If he is given a choice to keep one book from all the compendium of human
knowledge he would undoubtedly chose the book.
Hinduism for all its faults, keeps the mind open to learning. Nothing is final. You may find a new prophet, new God or you mary find a new way to Truth or you may find that you yourself are God. It is a never ending search. There are no limits. Thats is the reason hindus do better
in learning and are more tolerant of other faiths including of non believers. Killing this love of knowledge, of seeking, is the single worst trait of religions like Islam. Ofcourse we would expect tahmeds of the world to deny that because they know no better that that is included in the book. And the information content of the book and the message it conveys is not even clear enough among the tahmeds but they still chose to believe that it is ultimate
truth while hypocritically enjoying the benefits science and the logical mind.
regards
Posted by
dharma
Mar 4, 2008 08:02 pm
Re: # 277cheemaji,
Trying to teach anything to tahmed is like casting pearls before a swine. He is incapable of learning. All he needs to learn, he already learned from the book. If he is given a choice to keep one book from all the compendium of human
knowledge he would undoubtedly chose the book.
Hinduism for all its faults, keeps the mind open to learning. Nothing is final. You may find a new prophet, new God or you mary find a new way to Truth or you may find that you yourself are God. It is a never ending search. There are no limits. Thats is the reason hindus do better
in learning and are more tolerant of other faiths including of non believers. Killing this love of knowledge, of seeking, is the single worst trait of religions like Islam. Ofcourse we would expect tahmeds of the world to deny that because they know no better that that is included in the book. And the information content of the book and the message it conveys is not even clear enough among the tahmeds but they still chose to believe that it is ultimate
truth while hypocritically enjoying the benefits science and the logical mind.
regards
Militant Liberalism
dear ahmad
muslims in india vote more or less as a block, thus weild more political power than their
numbers suggest. With the doubling of their numbers if pakistan is unified with india,
they would completely control the govt as there is no other ideolgy which is more
imperalistic in nature. Indian ethos is unity in diversity and multiple paths to the same
truth. We all see ourselves as different even when we are all hindus. There is no
homogenity in the religion - so it will work as long as hindus are overwhelming majority.
So contrary to what you suggest religon will become important in larger india and islam will
absolutley control the govt and can change the foreign policy and personal laws
significantly to the detremint of majority. And that can trigger a civil war in future.
That is the reason there are no takers for unification in India except for the muslims.
regards
Posted by
dharma
May 14, 2007 01:55 pm
Re: # 326dear ahmad
muslims in india vote more or less as a block, thus weild more political power than their
numbers suggest. With the doubling of their numbers if pakistan is unified with india,
they would completely control the govt as there is no other ideolgy which is more
imperalistic in nature. Indian ethos is unity in diversity and multiple paths to the same
truth. We all see ourselves as different even when we are all hindus. There is no
homogenity in the religion - so it will work as long as hindus are overwhelming majority.
So contrary to what you suggest religon will become important in larger india and islam will
absolutley control the govt and can change the foreign policy and personal laws
significantly to the detremint of majority. And that can trigger a civil war in future.
That is the reason there are no takers for unification in India except for the muslims.
regards
Militant Liberalism
Assuming these predictions come true and pakistan disintegrates in 10 years or so and
at that time if India happens to have leftist/pro islam govt and they agree to unify, wont
this pan islamism control India destroy its culture and make it a sea of islam from middle
east to Indonesia? We see in Iran how islam can destroy culture and make humans into robots. Isnt it this greater danger to India and ultimately to the world than keeping it confined to Pakistan? What other solutions do you see for pakistan? I see the only way
forward is to ban religion for 100 years in public life in pakistan and be closer to china.
regards,
dharma
Posted by
dharma
May 14, 2007 11:49 am
Dear Ahmad,Assuming these predictions come true and pakistan disintegrates in 10 years or so and
at that time if India happens to have leftist/pro islam govt and they agree to unify, wont
this pan islamism control India destroy its culture and make it a sea of islam from middle
east to Indonesia? We see in Iran how islam can destroy culture and make humans into robots. Isnt it this greater danger to India and ultimately to the world than keeping it confined to Pakistan? What other solutions do you see for pakistan? I see the only way
forward is to ban religion for 100 years in public life in pakistan and be closer to china.
regards,
dharma
Militant Liberalism
zeena,
honestly you are the laughing stock, resident idiot of chowk. dont go ballistic on me
now for being the messenger. If you take a survey of all the readers thats what
90% would think of you. Although it is fun once in a while to see the depth of
idiocy human mind can degenerate to, it is becoming painful to watch you derail
any intelligent discussion on front page. Why dont u please use your time productively
on unplugged where your kind hangout and are looking for some timepass. Sorry
for being blunt
cheers,
dharma
Posted by
dharma
May 13, 2007 12:39 pm
Re: # 240zeena,
honestly you are the laughing stock, resident idiot of chowk. dont go ballistic on me
now for being the messenger. If you take a survey of all the readers thats what
90% would think of you. Although it is fun once in a while to see the depth of
idiocy human mind can degenerate to, it is becoming painful to watch you derail
any intelligent discussion on front page. Why dont u please use your time productively
on unplugged where your kind hangout and are looking for some timepass. Sorry
for being blunt
cheers,
dharma
Girls Gone Wild
While salim is obviously trying to make point that vigilantism is wrong no matter who does it, he misses a big difference. The difference in in the target of the vigilantism. In one
case it is the Govt and in the other case it is poor helpless women who may be in that
situation out of no choice or are forced in to that situation. Then it is a double whammy
for them and the unfairness is obvious to all that have taken the side of the prostitutes.
Posted by
dharma
Apr 5, 2007 05:04 pm
Re: # 507 hamidmWhile salim is obviously trying to make point that vigilantism is wrong no matter who does it, he misses a big difference. The difference in in the target of the vigilantism. In one
case it is the Govt and in the other case it is poor helpless women who may be in that
situation out of no choice or are forced in to that situation. Then it is a double whammy
for them and the unfairness is obvious to all that have taken the side of the prostitutes.
Girls Gone Wild
And dont blabber about how you dont understand me, hamidm and salim.
You are not supposed to. Ask your local mullah to explain. And please dont
waste our time otherwise i will have to take law into my hands. please take
your business somewhere else. This is a sharif place where great minds
contemplate.
Posted by
dharma
Apr 4, 2007 10:30 pm
#381 zeenaAnd dont blabber about how you dont understand me, hamidm and salim.
You are not supposed to. Ask your local mullah to explain. And please dont
waste our time otherwise i will have to take law into my hands. please take
your business somewhere else. This is a sharif place where great minds
contemplate.
Girls Gone Wild
>What if Police starts protecting criminals? Those clads stood up for their basic right when >everything else failed.
>When higher authorities did not respond their complaints, when Police rejected their >charges, when police became the shareholder in that particular brothel business.
>Think about it.
zeena ji
I complained to authorites about your dumbness to no avail. They did not lift
a finger. They are probably in cahoot with your criminal waste of badwidth.
Am i justfied coming after you with besharams infamous ganna?
Posted by
dharma
Apr 4, 2007 10:24 pm
Re: # 381>What if Police starts protecting criminals? Those clads stood up for their basic right when >everything else failed.
>When higher authorities did not respond their complaints, when Police rejected their >charges, when police became the shareholder in that particular brothel business.
>Think about it.
zeena ji
I complained to authorites about your dumbness to no avail. They did not lift
a finger. They are probably in cahoot with your criminal waste of badwidth.
Am i justfied coming after you with besharams infamous ganna?
Girls Gone Wild
No need to mention any names. everyone knows them. Funny how they work together
so well. Is it the same in real life in pakistan? mullahs motivate idiots to become jehadis?
Posted by
dharma
Apr 4, 2007 12:54 pm
so far we have filled the positions of resident mullah, resident idiot and resident jihadi.No need to mention any names. everyone knows them. Funny how they work together
so well. Is it the same in real life in pakistan? mullahs motivate idiots to become jehadis?
The Hypocrisy of the Indian Leftists
>also the brahmin is perpetuating the hindu dowry system even when OBC leaders have >abolished it and made it illegal.
It is better to keep your mouth shut when you dont know something. So far
I had high regard for your posts. This negates all that. How does brahmin perpetuate
dowry system and for what purpose? dowry system is very recent phenomena
to the subcontinent.
Posted by
dharma
Apr 4, 2007 11:20 am
Re: # 17 jang>also the brahmin is perpetuating the hindu dowry system even when OBC leaders have >abolished it and made it illegal.
It is better to keep your mouth shut when you dont know something. So far
I had high regard for your posts. This negates all that. How does brahmin perpetuate
dowry system and for what purpose? dowry system is very recent phenomena
to the subcontinent.
Girls Gone Wild
Hi zeena,
How would you like if a local chapter of MENSA in your neighborhood decide to get
rid of dumb scum like you from this world and make this world right and bright?
You have two options: 1) you can say but being dumb is not a crime - maybe it is not
a crime in your book but the MENSA society thinks it is.
and 2) How do they know you are dumb. They did not give you IQ test and
validate it impartially. But their answer is they have seen enough of your writings
and they think you are guilty. Are you ready for the MENSA police to be beaten up
to pulp or will you stop sprouting nonsense?
Posted by
dharma
Apr 2, 2007 06:57 pm
Re: # 145Hi zeena,
How would you like if a local chapter of MENSA in your neighborhood decide to get
rid of dumb scum like you from this world and make this world right and bright?
You have two options: 1) you can say but being dumb is not a crime - maybe it is not
a crime in your book but the MENSA society thinks it is.
and 2) How do they know you are dumb. They did not give you IQ test and
validate it impartially. But their answer is they have seen enough of your writings
and they think you are guilty. Are you ready for the MENSA police to be beaten up
to pulp or will you stop sprouting nonsense?
Inzi Post-Bob: An Interview
``There is, infact, nothing, ``unethical`` about gay marraige. It is only religiously unethical. Not socially unethical.........Hence people pushing secularism and opposing gay marriage etc. are the ones who are riding in two boats. Sooner or later, they will have to decide which boat to get into. ``
Are you as dumb and simple as you write? What you see is what you get? (WYSWYG)
Why do you simplify everything to your level of understanding and make a fool
of yourself? Why dont you ever think that there maybe more to this world
than your puny mind can grasp. About gay issue being socially ethical or
not you can easily see both the view points. Some peope would think of
traditional marriage as an institution providing stable, secure environment for the future
generationas and consider it sacrosanct and anything affecting it as socailly
unethical just like any other crime that can disrupt socail fabric. Are you too
into yourself that you can see beyond your nose?
Posted by
dharma
Mar 27, 2007 04:51 pm
Re #113 by bulleya on March 27, 2007 12:47pm PT``There is, infact, nothing, ``unethical`` about gay marraige. It is only religiously unethical. Not socially unethical.........Hence people pushing secularism and opposing gay marriage etc. are the ones who are riding in two boats. Sooner or later, they will have to decide which boat to get into. ``
Are you as dumb and simple as you write? What you see is what you get? (WYSWYG)
Why do you simplify everything to your level of understanding and make a fool
of yourself? Why dont you ever think that there maybe more to this world
than your puny mind can grasp. About gay issue being socially ethical or
not you can easily see both the view points. Some peope would think of
traditional marriage as an institution providing stable, secure environment for the future
generationas and consider it sacrosanct and anything affecting it as socailly
unethical just like any other crime that can disrupt socail fabric. Are you too
into yourself that you can see beyond your nose?
The Day We Killed Bob Woolmer
na we will just kill their potential to make money. thank you.
they just wont get any endorsements for a while i am sure.
It is market economy vs madarasa economy.
Posted by
dharma
Mar 23, 2007 03:07 pm
will indians kill their coach now that they are out of the cup?na we will just kill their potential to make money. thank you.
they just wont get any endorsements for a while i am sure.
It is market economy vs madarasa economy.
Trapped, surrounded, quarantined or just reading too much into it?
ranjit bhai, while your idea is right about doing business with pakistan is beneficial
to both making both rich in the short term, i have doubts about its effectiveness
in the long term vis-a-vis india. Like salim bhai and various others mention, muslims
mind their own business when they are poor and are occupied in feeding themselves
and their families and dont have time for islam unless they are paid big bucks for
becoming jehadi fodder. And we see more islamic fanaticism in middle classes and
upper middle classes. Do you want to help make pakistanis richer, have more time
and money avialable to become religious zealots? That would be deadly for india
in the long term. Humans are very adaptive in nature and pakis more so. They
became muslims in the first place because they adpated better than hindus. Let them
adapt again and become secular and endeared to the indians by adpating similar
values and become rich. We dont need to give them any concessions. They need
to change to do business with us or perish. So it is better to tighten the noose
until they start dancing to our tune. When such change comes from them we
know it is genuine and wont hurt us in the long term because it came from them
and by emulating us they become us.
Posted by
dharma
Mar 12, 2007 11:32 pm
#ranjit variousranjit bhai, while your idea is right about doing business with pakistan is beneficial
to both making both rich in the short term, i have doubts about its effectiveness
in the long term vis-a-vis india. Like salim bhai and various others mention, muslims
mind their own business when they are poor and are occupied in feeding themselves
and their families and dont have time for islam unless they are paid big bucks for
becoming jehadi fodder. And we see more islamic fanaticism in middle classes and
upper middle classes. Do you want to help make pakistanis richer, have more time
and money avialable to become religious zealots? That would be deadly for india
in the long term. Humans are very adaptive in nature and pakis more so. They
became muslims in the first place because they adpated better than hindus. Let them
adapt again and become secular and endeared to the indians by adpating similar
values and become rich. We dont need to give them any concessions. They need
to change to do business with us or perish. So it is better to tighten the noose
until they start dancing to our tune. When such change comes from them we
know it is genuine and wont hurt us in the long term because it came from them
and by emulating us they become us.
Why Have This Train At All?
watch out raw_dust. Dr shaik was sentenced to death for just using his brian and
making this innocuous statement that Muhammed did not become a Muslim before the age of forty and that his parents were non-Muslims.
You have to rememeber we are not dealing with rational human beings here.
That is why you see this eerie silence descend on this forum.
Posted by
dharma
Feb 27, 2007 04:43 pm
Re: # 387watch out raw_dust. Dr shaik was sentenced to death for just using his brian and
making this innocuous statement that Muhammed did not become a Muslim before the age of forty and that his parents were non-Muslims.
You have to rememeber we are not dealing with rational human beings here.
That is why you see this eerie silence descend on this forum.
Why Have This Train At All?
some fault with others and equating the wrongs. It is all same same. Pakis are
corrupt, indians are corrupt. we are same. Pakiland has beggars and india has beggars.
it is all the same. We have islamic terrorists and we have hindu terrorists - Again
samt thing. When you compare wrongs magnitude does not count. Even one small
incident (one dowry killing, one infanticide, one mob violence,..etc) matters because
when innocents suffer it is not right. But tahmeds of the pakiland never compare
rights. Because there magnitude counts. Noone cares about donut shops when
ther others have the largest steel plant in the world. For example tahmeds (also
their cohorts psecs) never comment on news items like this:
IIM-A student gets Rs 1.1 crore offer (250,000 US$)
Sources said the highest salary believed to have been offered at Harvard to students with an average relevant work experience of 10 years is $280,000 (Rs 1.23 crore) and the average, $130,000 (Rs 57 lakh). The average offer for IIM-A`s PGPX is $120,000 (Rs 52 lakh)
Let us keep believing indians and pakis are same for tahmeds sake while we are
leaving the pakis far behind!
Posted by
dharma
Feb 21, 2007 08:07 pm
the only way tahmeds of pakiland can live without shame for being a paki is findingsome fault with others and equating the wrongs. It is all same same. Pakis are
corrupt, indians are corrupt. we are same. Pakiland has beggars and india has beggars.
it is all the same. We have islamic terrorists and we have hindu terrorists - Again
samt thing. When you compare wrongs magnitude does not count. Even one small
incident (one dowry killing, one infanticide, one mob violence,..etc) matters because
when innocents suffer it is not right. But tahmeds of the pakiland never compare
rights. Because there magnitude counts. Noone cares about donut shops when
ther others have the largest steel plant in the world. For example tahmeds (also
their cohorts psecs) never comment on news items like this:
IIM-A student gets Rs 1.1 crore offer (250,000 US$)
Sources said the highest salary believed to have been offered at Harvard to students with an average relevant work experience of 10 years is $280,000 (Rs 1.23 crore) and the average, $130,000 (Rs 57 lakh). The average offer for IIM-A`s PGPX is $120,000 (Rs 52 lakh)
Let us keep believing indians and pakis are same for tahmeds sake while we are
leaving the pakis far behind!
What Ails the BPO Industry in Pakistan?
yes, pakis dont have any choice but blowing themselves up and indians have
no choice but accept the money. Ijust wish they blow themsleves up without
hurting anyone.
Posted by
dharma
Feb 2, 2007 04:02 pm
Re: # 242yes, pakis dont have any choice but blowing themselves up and indians have
no choice but accept the money. Ijust wish they blow themsleves up without
hurting anyone.
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