Finding Kashmir\'s Pain in London Re: # 169
kaami
I guess you are too stupid to get what stuka is saying in 168. If the majority muslims
in kashmir dont care about their minorities, why do they expect that the majority
in India to care about them. Yow reap what you sow, you get what you deserve.

Finding Kashmir\'s Pain in London You dont even have to move people. Just allow people to buy property there. There will be lot of speculative buying. That would heat up the real estate market tempting the locals
to sell, take the money and invest elsewhere. Pretty soon locals would be priced out of the market with NRI/and other rich indians money pouring in. That would make the locals rich
and less prone to violence. Hey i would not mind buying a couple of acres of lakefront property and hold it for a while for things to turn around.

Finding Kashmir\'s Pain in London Re: # 103
``We are not playing the cards you have in mind because, given the nature of our society, we cannot play them, and could not have played them.``
we could have played them, we can play them now as majority of indians including indian muslim dont sympathise with kashmiri muslims. Infact they see them as oppressors instead of being oppressed because they kicked out their minorities and shown us how minorities have to be treated by example. We can follow their example and noone cries foul. After all you get what you deserve.

Finding Kashmir\'s Pain in London Re: # 102
kalachkra
I dont mean India has been intentionally generous. The status quo is too generous to others involved because of india`s weak response. It is not playing all its cards. World will be only too happy if we are tough on a muslim insurgency and make them democratic and multi cultural by whatever means necessary. It is a huge favor to humanity which is held hostage by a few inhuman beareded terrorists. Islamists by definition dont support human freedom - they supress independent thought, exploit women and children and weild power through violece and mainipulation of fear. We have to make all these islamic socities democratic so that common man can have voice.

Finding Kashmir\'s Pain in London Actually india is being too generous, being the stronger side and just accepting LOC
as border and not claiming the whole of kashmir including chinese occupied part.
The simplest solution is to repeat what chinese have done with Tibet. Resettle
kashmir and change its demographics, give free land to businesses to develop it etc.
There is no country in this world except for the ismalic ones which will oppose
this strategy. In the case of tamils in srilanka there were genuine grivances for their
asking separate homeland. They were dicriminated by the majority by quota systems.
In India quota systems always work for minorities. Mulsim kashmiris enjoy more rights
than oridinary indians legally. They may not enjoy as many rights now becuase
it is infested with insurgency. Even then Indian govt is not as heavy handed as
some other govts like UK and US could be in case of insurgency. US and UK would
never talk to terrorists like Indian govt tries to do now and then. All kashmir problems are
self created by India by showing weak responses to terrorism. we should learn from china, US, UK and other strong countries. People are entitiled to their constitutional rights only when they respect the constitution.

US–India Deal and Kashmir Re: # 72
anil ji,
kashmiri muslims have become inhuman by shutting out their fellow kahmiris and driving them out. The only issues that concern them are iraq war, prophet cartoons, palestine etc,
not that their brothers by blood have become refugees in their own country, driven out of their homes and now according to recent reports are selling their children for money.
And these moronic monsters expect sympathy for their cause from mainstream india
and other civilized countries. You reap what you sow. These islamic thugs would get
what they deserve eventually for causing so much grief in these parts of the world.

US–India Deal and Kashmir mahatarma zeena says:
``if there would be an issue about any one nation or race in majority in one part of USA , are not satisfied living with USA then I am all with the freedom of that state. Yes, I will stand for the freedom of that state.``

atleast she is not a hypocrite. but that is because these matters are above her head.
where are our resident kashmiri freedom fighters? Would you support right to secede
in USA too or is that reserved only for muslims?

US–India Deal and Kashmir Re: # 31
``if there would be an issue about any one nation or race in majority in one part of USA , are not satisfied living with USA then I am all with the freedom of that state. Yes, I will stand for the freedom of that state.``

freedom of that state to separate from US? Are you sure? you can be in big trouble here.
you may be violating a law and you can very well be jailed for your opinions to harm US. Maybe you can call yourself a freedom fighter:)


``But, Kashmiris are being tortured , slaughtered, raped and their houses being burnt by Indian army daily.
Do any of American state treat it`s any state like that? NO. America treats all citizens with respect and equally. ``

Can you please take up arms against america and let us know how respectfully
you are treated from gitmo or some place?

``if there would be an issue about any one nation or race in majority in one part of USA , are not satisfied living with USA then I am all with the freedom of that state. Yes, I will stand for the freedom of that state.``

US–India Deal and Kashmir Re: # 29
``Same way, If Balochis wish to be independent , give them freedom. If, Pathans wish to be separated, give them freedom. If, tamils wish to be independent , give them freedom. If, Punjabis wish to be independent, give them freedom. I am all for freedom for nations. ``

What you say amounts to treason against state. This is how democratic countries treat the crime:

in US
Treason is punishable by death. If a death sentence is not imposed, defendants face a minimum penalty of five years in prison and a $10,000 fine (18 U.S.C.A. § 2381). A person who is convicted of treason may not hold federal office at any time thereafter.

Are you willing to stand by your conviction and support say mexican descent citizens wanting their own country within US? If you believe in such freedom you should not
have any problems being open about it and advocating freely in US? Let us see you
advocate such feedom in US and then I believe you are not a hypocrite. Until then
just shut up about your muslim kashmir already.

US–India Deal and Kashmir Re: # 17
``Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris, NOT to Pakistani neither to India. ``

What is so special about kashmiris? why not sindhis, gujaratis, tamils, telugus, ...?

I think kashmiris are just spoiled lot. If I were indian PM, i would make a deal with
tamil tigers and resettle them there. Most tamils are shivites and kashmir is
the abode of lord shiva from time immemorial. If pakistan can gift away part
of kashmir to china and resettle paindoo punjabis to POK, India can do the
humanitarian task of helping landless people and giving them a home they would
worship.

Ready for a Modern Pakistan? Arjun:
You got to take it easy on the pakis. It is not easy for them to find anything positive
on the internet about being paki . They try hard searching for some positive news
about their country and when google does not oblige they take their frustration here
writing about dhotis, vaseline, shitting etc and think that they are being witty. I am yet
to see an indian who talks like behram, godot et al on this forum, yet that is all the
pakis have to cheer on. Sucks to be in their shoes while there has never been better time
to be an indian than now. It almost feels too easy for young indians now. I am
interviewing some programmers in India now. Just hired one 26 yo girl who is
a lotus notes developer for 70,000 Rs pm. and this is not even rocket science.
Need lot more programmers/recruiters/accountants etc but cant get any. Too many
companies vying for the talent. If only pakis had logical minds we would be training
and using them by now. But they have proven to be not too bright in UK where they
had sunk to the bottom of society even though they had equal opprtunities as Indians
and in lot of other countries. Yet to see a country where they are well off than the average.
citizen. They just live off the indian success. So it is difficult to bet on them that they will succeed in anything but religion and exploiting the weaker sex. Try googling
for facts to prove me otherwise and see what a tough job they face to counter
your numbers. So lets stop the pissing match with them and treat them like pakis.

Culture Cloning Re: # 230 jang
``How did Hindi-Urdu develop, and why does it have two names? Let`s look at the linguistic condition of India about one thousand years ago. The Indo-Aryan language family, brought to South Asia by the Aryans in prehistoric times, had become firmly established in a belt running from the Persian Caucasus in the West to the Bay of Bengal in the East.``

The aryan invasion theory is just sheer nonsense. There is no reference of any foreign motherland for aryans other than India in the vast literature of vedas, upanishads and puranas. Arya as used in our texts is not a racial term - it is just a term to address a culturerd person. There is no proof of any Aryan Invasion.The vedic culture is indigenous.

Culture Cloning Re: # 152 mannyd

``By the way do you know Tamil? ``
manny bhai,
No I dont excpet for all the sanskrit words that are in tamil. Even tamil brahmins chant gayatri mantra in sanskrit. Sanskrit seems to be the only thread that is linking all the indian languages and everything that is culture and knowledge related from ancient india. If we want to keep the knowledge aquired by our ancestors over generations we need to keep that language alive. There are certain fields like meditation, yoga etc which have no contemporary practitioners that equalled the effort put in by our ancestors and knowledge gained by them. In the olden days rishis and sages used to routinely take off years to medidate in solitude and try understand spiritual side. We can not just throw away their insights aquired over thosuands of years and start all over again. I believe that english is good for modern science and sanskrit for spiritual science.

Culture Cloning Re: # 140 kalachakra

It is not as black and white as you think. You know very well that the Aryan Invasion theory is totally debunked and none of the indologists believe it anymore atleast in academic sense. And the languages are not as striaghtforward either. Even if they started at same place, they developed independently with the link language being Sanskrit. All the literate in old India communicated through Sanskrit. Lot of good sanskrit literature came from south too like ``Amukta Malyada`` by the king Krishna Deva Raya. If you examine the vowel, consonants and the sounds in all the dravidain and aryan languages of india they share a lot with each other than any other group outside of india.

frawley says:
``Even though Dravidian languages are based on a different model than Sanskrit there are thirty to seventy per cent Sanskrit words in south Indian languages like Telugu and Tamil, which is much higher percentage than north Indian languages like Hindi. In addition both north and south Indian languages have a similar construction and phraseology that links them close together, which European languages often do not share. This has caused some linguists even to propose that Hindi was a Dravidian language. In short, the language compart- ments, like the racial ones, are not as rigid as has been thought.

In fact if we examine the oldest Vedic Sanskrit, we find similar sounds to Dravidian languages (the cerebral letters, for example), which are not present in other Indo-European tongues. This shows either that there were already Drvidians in the same region as the Vedic people, and part of the same culture with them, or that Dravidian languages could also have been early off-shoots of Sanskrit, which was the theory of the modern rishi, Sri Aurobindo. In addition the traditional inventor of the Dravidian languages was said to have been none other than Agastya, one of the most important rishis of the Rig Veda, the oldest Sanskrit text.``

Culture Cloning Re: # 137 sridhar
``Well, my point was Urdu being the medium of conversation in Bollywood movies (even the titles are in urdu; i don`t know what the heck the word Rakht means but there is a bollywood movie by that name!)``

That is a shame that you being a brahmin, dont know the meaning of the word rakth. It means red or blood in sanskrit. I guess you are becoming more arabic like your enmies you so love to hate.

Here We Go Again Re: # 419
``Now, I really applaud your brilliance and intelligence....

Bird of a feather.... ``

instead of applauding i would appreciate if you can send me a jay`s post which is illogical. I would like to rip it apart too. All i care about is being logical and moral. Sides dont matter to me. Dont just call Jay domestic terrorist just because mullah ahmed said so - show me the reason.