Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis Guru,

Prepare for a stinging one... here it comes... chmaaat!


http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/jun/13spec1.htm

June 13, 2005

As the country is plunged into an acrimonious debate on Mohammad Ali Jinnah's secular credentials, a trust in Mumbai named after the founder of Pakistan is busy helping poor students of all creeds.

Welcome to the Jinnah Hall Trust.

Sitting in his small cubicle at The People's Jinnah Hall at Grant Road in south Mumbai, Nayan Yagnik, a trustee of the Jinnah Hall Trust, does not want to comment on whether Bharatiya Janata Party chief Lal Kishenchand Advani was right when he praised Jinnah's secular credentials recently in Pakistan. He does not comment either on the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh's attack on Advani. He has no views on the RSS' Akhand Bharat Theory -- a line of thinking that seeks to reverse bloody Partition.

Yagnik is thinking of the days ahead. He has his job cut out. A new educational year is staring him in the face. What it means for him is a flood of applications for scholarships. The applications will have to be screened and deserving students would have to be awarded assistance. Deserving students, mind you -- not deserving Hindu students, not deserving Muslim students, not deserving Christian students.

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The Jinnah Hall Trust, as the name suggests, also controls a community hall that is let out for cultural and family functions for a small price. It is let out to political parties too and parties of all hues, including the Shiv Sena and BJP, have used the hall.

Though the trust calls it The People's Jinnah Hall, political parties refer to it as just The People's Hall on the invitation cards.

Attempts were made by the Sena and BJP to pressure trustees to rename the trust. Yagnik, a Gujarati, and other trustees, none of them a Muslim, refused.

How this hall got its name is an interesting story.

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It was 1918. Lord Willingdon was relinquishing the governorship of Bombay province and a meeting was convened to appreciate his services. Jinnah did not approve of the idea and decided to organise a protest. He along with his wife Ratanbai and a large number of protestors were forceably removed by the police.

The episode made Jinnah a hero and within a few days his admirers, mostly Congress workers, contributed Rs 30,000 in his honour.

The amount was presented to him at a felicitation ceremony at a small hall at Congress House. However, Jinnah, one of the most successful barristers in the city, returned the money.

The Congressmen then named the hall after him and set up a trust with the Rs 30,000. It was called the Jinnah Hall Trust.


Yagnik says it is a small trust with annual earnings of less than Rs 100,000. Nobody from Jinnah's family has ever been involved in the trust though Nusli Wadia, Jinnah's grandson and chairman of the Bombay Dyeing [Get Quote] group, lives in Mumbai.

"Sometime ago the Pakistan government had wanted to set up their temporary visa office here, but we said no. We don't want to make it a diplomatic or political issue," Yagnik said.

Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis I don't like arguing with third rate people who have probably not stepped out of their office space and no even less of history... but facts must be stated.

Jinnah participated in a fair share of marches during his time in the Congress Party and the Home Rule League and also as an independent... most famous one of which was the protest against Simon Commission which had no Indian ..

Unlike Gandhi's sojourn in Aga Khan's palace... Jinnah was on one occasion beaten up and injured by the police ... but he stood his ground and the citizens of Bombay built and dedicated a hall to him called "People's Jinnah Hall" ... which is still there in Bombay. He was never opposed to protest marches ... but he was against Mahatmafying them.

Also as Jinnah's true follower and a Pakistani, I participated in the Long March on Friday... after I spoke to BBC live at 12 noon. Now BBC is not stupid because it calls me of all people to speak on behalf of the Lawyers' Movement.

Now I am done talking to champions of diahorrea on chowk and I bid you farewell.

-YLH

PS: Great article. Just shows that what I have been saying is now gaining acceptance because it is the truth.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Well said sir. 192.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Abu abdullah is probably a sunni-troll trying to give Ahmadis a bad name.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Naqshu,

What you consider Ahmadis is your business but it is the question of what Ahmadis consider themselves...

They consider themselves Muslims... And they were considered Muslim when Pakistan laid a claim to Qadian as a "Muslim holy place" as a counter weight to Sikh holy places in Pakistan ... and even Muslim when Bhutto travelled to Rabwah many times... once in my father's car.

So then it doesn't matter one agrees with them or not but they should have the right to profess their Islam unfettered.

So you can call them followers of dajjal or whatever (to me the real dajjals are sitting in deoband passing out those horrible fatwas under the "secular" indian govt's protection and the Pir of Golra preaching superstition and backwardness mack in the middle of Pakistan's capital) that is your prerogative. Leave it to god to make the final decision...don't put words in his mouth. Poor god sahab has been abused by witchdoctors of all kinds enough already.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Masadi,

Yawn.

You are not worth my time insect.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
PPP has a grave responsibility. It must undo the mistake Bhutto made by declaring Ahmadis non-Muslim.

By doing so it cannot not only clean up the blot on Bhutto but will also help restore Pakistan to Jinnah's vision ...which did not discriminate on the basis of religion caste or creed.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Masadi,

As usual you have no clue about history or of the Ahmaddiya community. I can't waste my time with some as ridiculous as you.

So keep talking to yourself loser.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
Alright chowkie cheapos... it was fun but I don't have time for wash outs.

I'll see ya when I'll see ya.

Long live Jinnah's secular democratic vision of Pakistan which will one day overcome and put a big danda up both mullah freaks and those haterz from across the border who wish to abuse us.


Long live the Ahmaddiya community !

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Urstruly,

Frankly I don't see any place for you in Pakistan.

Wait you are already banished to the land of kafirs.

Ah what irony.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Masadi,

In world war 1 gandhi was recruiter in chief for the British Empire.

As for the second world war ...it was right and proper to fight off the Nazi threat ... though only thing Muslim leadership did was to not create any hurdles in the war effort.

As for Muslim leadership, as I have proved on several occasions ... without Pakistan you would be a bottomfeeder ... an absolute sewer rat instead of an oft humiliated university TA that you are today.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Laddu,

Most Ahmadis would rather spit on your face than betray the country they sacrificed so much to create.

Now take a hike.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad For avoidance of doubt Ahmadi-hating deobandis hardly had any following in the subcontinent till Gandhi uplifted deobandis as a tool to use against the Muslim leadership.

This reminds me...

Muhammad Siddique Amritsari was the greatest Ahmadi preacher in Africa. I recently read a book called "rooh parwar yadein"... There is a whole chapter on this Islamic scholar from Lebanon who went to Sierra Leone and attacked Ahmadis every chance he got. The same Lebanese Islamic scholar advised Amritsari to follow Gandhi (this was in early 1940s). Amritsari responded : we have only one leader and he is Mahomed Ali Jinnah. Then Amritsari proceeded to destroy Gandhi's reputation with a poem he wrote which became legendary in Sierra Leone..

He was my father's maternal uncle.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Majumdar

Well argued.

If we must make historical connections... Darul uloom deoband which is the ideological force against Ahmadis will always be closer to Gandhi than Jinnah who they dismissed as big a kafir as the Ahmadis.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Freaks like BJ and Jayp will be as disappointed as urstruly and others that the Punjab government has intervened and the students have been reinstated.

Ahmadis were and will always be the most patriotic Pakistani community ...whether jamaatis and other fascist freaks accept this or not.

And those who insist on tracing this back to Pakistan's creation, historically you will always be wrong.

The people who oppose ahmadis and start hate campaigns against them are the same people who opposed Jinnah and the Pakistan movement.

And who empowered these people? Perhaps you should go read the fatwas regarding qadianis on the darul ifta website of darul uloom deoband.

The same people need to be defeated again as they were defeated in 1946.

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Ciao... I'll see you champoos when I see you.