Now it’s mannequins
If Mullah is busy with non-issues, so do we. Omar, Pakistan have bigger grey areas. Pick one of those rather a rat-race of picking Mullahs. The mis-management, corruption and greediness of politicians and beaurucracy are more serious issues to address.
I agree with HisExcellency#10. Let Mullah run the way he thinks right. If he is wrong and fail to deliver, he will be out in next election.
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anew
Jan 5, 2004 08:51 pm
If Mullah is busy with non-issues, so do we. Omar, Pakistan have bigger grey areas. Pick one of those rather a rat-race of picking Mullahs. The mis-management, corruption and greediness of politicians and beaurucracy are more serious issues to address.
I agree with HisExcellency#10. Let Mullah run the way he thinks right. If he is wrong and fail to deliver, he will be out in next election.
Between Musharraf and Mullahs—Who Won?
Between Musharraf and Mullahs—Who Won?
Niccolo Machiavelli won.
None of you know the secret of `Melting Mullahs`. They were blackmailed to be disqualified for not possessing Graduadion degrees. Their was already a case in the court and petition in Election Commission to disqualify almost 90% of them for having Madrassah degrees which were chaallanged to be not equivalent to BA degree. However, these Madrassah degrees were accepted at the time of Election as an equivalent. So Mullahs were blackmailed - Machiavelli style. Now it is a win-win situation for Musharraf, Mullahs and Pakistan.
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anew
Jan 5, 2004 08:51 pm
Between Musharraf and Mullahs—Who Won?
Niccolo Machiavelli won.
None of you know the secret of `Melting Mullahs`. They were blackmailed to be disqualified for not possessing Graduadion degrees. Their was already a case in the court and petition in Election Commission to disqualify almost 90% of them for having Madrassah degrees which were chaallanged to be not equivalent to BA degree. However, these Madrassah degrees were accepted at the time of Election as an equivalent. So Mullahs were blackmailed - Machiavelli style. Now it is a win-win situation for Musharraf, Mullahs and Pakistan.
Teach Students to Think
If repeating facts without insight helped, parrots would rule the world.
They are ruling. How much insight you see in `the one who are ruling` the world? Who can doubt the `creativity and intelligence` of Bush and Blair? I think we should go `beyond the books` and look `outside the class room`. We need `insight` to see the `reality` and give up the prejudice and hatred.
And most of all we need to encourage Ethics and Morals. Clinton and Bush did not have bad teachers and schools. Both lack something. We need to explore the `systems` which are producing Ariel Sharons, Modis and Bushes. They had more `worse` educational institutions than `madrassah` - one time funded and supported by US to produce Jihadis for War Against Russia.
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anew
Jan 3, 2004 09:49 am
If repeating facts without insight helped, parrots would rule the world.
They are ruling. How much insight you see in `the one who are ruling` the world? Who can doubt the `creativity and intelligence` of Bush and Blair? I think we should go `beyond the books` and look `outside the class room`. We need `insight` to see the `reality` and give up the prejudice and hatred.
And most of all we need to encourage Ethics and Morals. Clinton and Bush did not have bad teachers and schools. Both lack something. We need to explore the `systems` which are producing Ariel Sharons, Modis and Bushes. They had more `worse` educational institutions than `madrassah` - one time funded and supported by US to produce Jihadis for War Against Russia.
Seducing The Devil
WAPDA, Railway and Steel Mill have proved that Armed Force personals have proved better Administrators. The civilians in these posts were corrupt and inefficient. But why our civil officers and executives are not so honest and disciplined?
Musharraf is in power because of Nawaz Sharif fascism. The Army may be always trying to `come back to power` but they can be kept in their shoes if we have honest and competent civil leadership.
The game of one political party losing and other winning is an on-going process. The PPP and PML(N) have to wait for their turn.
MQM is a racial and lingual party and will always be winning from Urban Sindh and in power as long they can fool their voters and Generals that `oratory of Altaf Bhai` is only to spread hatred and keep intact the vote bank. Otherwise `man` does not mean what he says.
There is a lot of similarities between MMA and MMQ. Both will be limited to a certian geographical area. If MMQ has a `anti-Punjab/Army` slogan the MMA will win on `Anti-US/American Agents` slogan, but both will compromise and will make deals with the same after winning. One is racial, the other is so-called religious. Both don`t have any broad-based political agenda.
The Army will be always `in-charge` as long we have leaders like Shujjats, Sharifs, Altafs and Benazirs. We should `cultivate` statesmen not `politicians hungry for power`. Otherwise, Army has `the real power` and will always fill the `vaccum`.
Posted by
anew
Jan 3, 2004 09:49 am
WAPDA, Railway and Steel Mill have proved that Armed Force personals have proved better Administrators. The civilians in these posts were corrupt and inefficient. But why our civil officers and executives are not so honest and disciplined?
Musharraf is in power because of Nawaz Sharif fascism. The Army may be always trying to `come back to power` but they can be kept in their shoes if we have honest and competent civil leadership.
The game of one political party losing and other winning is an on-going process. The PPP and PML(N) have to wait for their turn.
MQM is a racial and lingual party and will always be winning from Urban Sindh and in power as long they can fool their voters and Generals that `oratory of Altaf Bhai` is only to spread hatred and keep intact the vote bank. Otherwise `man` does not mean what he says.
There is a lot of similarities between MMA and MMQ. Both will be limited to a certian geographical area. If MMQ has a `anti-Punjab/Army` slogan the MMA will win on `Anti-US/American Agents` slogan, but both will compromise and will make deals with the same after winning. One is racial, the other is so-called religious. Both don`t have any broad-based political agenda.
The Army will be always `in-charge` as long we have leaders like Shujjats, Sharifs, Altafs and Benazirs. We should `cultivate` statesmen not `politicians hungry for power`. Otherwise, Army has `the real power` and will always fill the `vaccum`.
Rethinking Plebiscite In Kashmir
Conclusion : India will only get better , while Pakistan will only get worse.
Yes, India and Israel will `get better` and Kashmiris and Palestinians will `get worse`.
Posted by
anew
Jan 2, 2004 07:24 pm
#150 by gujjubania on January 2, 2004 7:49am PTConclusion : India will only get better , while Pakistan will only get worse.
Yes, India and Israel will `get better` and Kashmiris and Palestinians will `get worse`.
Rethinking Plebiscite In Kashmir
Come out of the misleading numbers and percentages. Why 97% of GDP can`t feed millions of Indians proper meal and provide some shelter?
Posted by
anew
Jan 2, 2004 12:10 am
#148 by gujjubania on January 1, 2004 11:31pm PTCome out of the misleading numbers and percentages. Why 97% of GDP can`t feed millions of Indians proper meal and provide some shelter?
A Pocket Full of Faux Pas’
Thanks for making it simple for me. Your article in New Year issue of Daily Times was also an intresting read.
Posted by
anew
Jan 1, 2004 09:17 am
#19 by khatam-shud on January 1, 2004 3:54am PTThanks for making it simple for me. Your article in New Year issue of Daily Times was also an intresting read.
Rethinking Plebiscite In Kashmir
Listen to your people!
India, among the world`s largest buyers of armaments, plans to spend another Rs 9,000 crore over its already burgeoning Defence budget of Rs 65,000 crore to upgrade its security system. The public should try and prevent this, as India`s real war is from within.
In India, Defence spending rose by 59 per cent in the last decade, at the cost of desperately needed allocations on poverty alleviation and education. The latest UN Human Development Index for 2002 reveals that every third hungry human being is in India, as also the largest number of children who do not go to school. China and even civil war-ravaged Sri Lanka have achieved dramatic improvements. India`s ranking in a basket of 174 countries, has actually deteriorated from 124 to 127 in the latest report.
India`s own latest Census analysed by India Today reveals more ugly facts. Four hundred million Indians exist in claustrophobic one room pigeon holes, every second family lives in temporary shelters, 77 per cent rural families have no bathroom facilities in their ``houses``, 62 per cent have no water supply, 161 million households have no cement flooring, 107 million houses have no power supply and every second Indian family depends on firewood for cooking, 56 years after Independence!
India should improve its defence against these internal threats rather than squander another Rs 9,000 crore on buying more military hardware. In fact the economic indicators for Pakistan, considered a ``failed state`` barely five years ago are improving in contrast. India should wake up at least now.
N. Narasimhan
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/bline/2003/07/28/stories/2003072800330801.htm
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anew
Jan 1, 2004 09:17 am
#138 by gujjubania on December 31, 2003 0:27am PTListen to your people!
India, among the world`s largest buyers of armaments, plans to spend another Rs 9,000 crore over its already burgeoning Defence budget of Rs 65,000 crore to upgrade its security system. The public should try and prevent this, as India`s real war is from within.
In India, Defence spending rose by 59 per cent in the last decade, at the cost of desperately needed allocations on poverty alleviation and education. The latest UN Human Development Index for 2002 reveals that every third hungry human being is in India, as also the largest number of children who do not go to school. China and even civil war-ravaged Sri Lanka have achieved dramatic improvements. India`s ranking in a basket of 174 countries, has actually deteriorated from 124 to 127 in the latest report.
India`s own latest Census analysed by India Today reveals more ugly facts. Four hundred million Indians exist in claustrophobic one room pigeon holes, every second family lives in temporary shelters, 77 per cent rural families have no bathroom facilities in their ``houses``, 62 per cent have no water supply, 161 million households have no cement flooring, 107 million houses have no power supply and every second Indian family depends on firewood for cooking, 56 years after Independence!
India should improve its defence against these internal threats rather than squander another Rs 9,000 crore on buying more military hardware. In fact the economic indicators for Pakistan, considered a ``failed state`` barely five years ago are improving in contrast. India should wake up at least now.
N. Narasimhan
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/bline/2003/07/28/stories/2003072800330801.htm
Rethinking Plebiscite In Kashmir
#128 anew
Yes, far too many indians are poor. Would you like to help them? Is even 1% of your output sincere? How many thousand rupees or 100s of dollars are you willing to give them?
Please let us know whether your are the usual paki hypocrite or have any genuine interest in helping the less fortunate.
Is my sincere advice of not wasting billions on arms race is not worth billions?
Posted by
anew
Jan 1, 2004 09:17 am
#135 by pmishra2 on December 30, 2003 7:03pm PT#128 anew
Yes, far too many indians are poor. Would you like to help them? Is even 1% of your output sincere? How many thousand rupees or 100s of dollars are you willing to give them?
Please let us know whether your are the usual paki hypocrite or have any genuine interest in helping the less fortunate.
Is my sincere advice of not wasting billions on arms race is not worth billions?
Rethinking Plebiscite In Kashmir
#129 by gujjubania on December 29, 2003 10:33pm PT
Oye Mulleh , how hard is it for you to understand simple logic ? Lot of Indians may be poor etc. but the % of Indian population below poverty line is officially 23% - while in Pakistan it is like 36%.
Bania Bhaya
23% Indian population below poverty line = 230 Million (Double the Pakistan Population)
Keep on buying arms while millions of you people are begging, starving and have no water to drink. It makes no difference to India Samraj and Bania hindu lalas. How cruel!
Posted by
anew
Dec 30, 2003 07:42 am
#129 by gujjubania on December 29, 2003 10:33pm PT
Oye Mulleh , how hard is it for you to understand simple logic ? Lot of Indians may be poor etc. but the % of Indian population below poverty line is officially 23% - while in Pakistan it is like 36%.
Bania Bhaya
23% Indian population below poverty line = 230 Million (Double the Pakistan Population)
Keep on buying arms while millions of you people are begging, starving and have no water to drink. It makes no difference to India Samraj and Bania hindu lalas. How cruel!
Rethinking Plebiscite In Kashmir
India needs to reduce poverty, starvation, begging and prostitution with this Economic Growth rather than buying billion dollars AWACS from Israel. Read this article as a litmus test;
India: Politics of Starvation
By Sudha Ramachandran
Asia Times
November 12, 2002
It was a probe by the People’s Union for Civil Liberties that uncovered the horrifying details of the starvation deaths in the Baran district of Rajasthan. Cultivation has ceased here for the area is reeling under its fifth successive year of acute drought. The local tribals have been reduced to dire poverty. Desperately short of food and driven by hunger, the tribals have turned to eating a wild grass called sama. This grass is hard for humans to digest. As a result, the tribals, especially children, have developed severe digestive ailments, resulting in death.
The starvation deaths in Rajasthan are a replay of a similar tragic story that unfolded in poverty-stricken Kashipur in the eastern state of Orissa last year. There, tribals driven by poverty and unable to buy even the subsidized rice provided through government ration shops were forced to eat fungus-ridden mango kernel.
As the starvation deaths in Kashipur hit the news, the Orissa government claimed that those who died were victims not of starvation but of their tradition of consuming mango kernel and boiled grass even while grain is available. The truth was that the tribals were forced to eat the poisonous kernel for want of an affordable choice.
In Rajasthan, the government is now claiming that the tribals prefer eating wild grass and that the deaths were caused by poor hygiene and disease. Government officials are busy defining starvation to prove that these were not starvation deaths. A starvation death is when there is no food material in the stomach, and government officials shamefully point out that the victims had eaten grass. Whatever the spin, it is hard to deny that the deaths were hunger-related.
The starvation deaths in Kashipur and Baran are just the tip of the iceberg. Hunger is widespread in India. It is said that at least 50 million Indians are on the brink of starvation and over 200 million Indians are underfed.
However, most of India’s poor, such as those who starved to death in Orissa and Rajasthan, cannot afford to buy the grains even at these subsidized rates. Many of them do not possess the Below Poverty Line (BPL) cards that entitle them to purchase at subsidized rates in ration shops. In several cases, the desperately poor have mortgaged their BPL cards to moneylenders or local traders.
Besides, the process of identifying the poor is severely flawed. An article in Outlook magazine points out that in Dharavi, Asia’s largest slum, situated in Mumbai, just 151 families are identified as BPL. Millions of poor across the country are categorized in government records as Above Poverty Line (APL).
``We had asked for special assistance for the drought-hit states, but our pleas went unheeded. We shall now take up the matter in parliament,`` she said, adding that drought was a serious problem that needed the greater attention of the government in New Delhi.
Posted by
anew
Dec 29, 2003 07:57 pm
#119 gujju baniaIndia needs to reduce poverty, starvation, begging and prostitution with this Economic Growth rather than buying billion dollars AWACS from Israel. Read this article as a litmus test;
India: Politics of Starvation
By Sudha Ramachandran
Asia Times
November 12, 2002
It was a probe by the People’s Union for Civil Liberties that uncovered the horrifying details of the starvation deaths in the Baran district of Rajasthan. Cultivation has ceased here for the area is reeling under its fifth successive year of acute drought. The local tribals have been reduced to dire poverty. Desperately short of food and driven by hunger, the tribals have turned to eating a wild grass called sama. This grass is hard for humans to digest. As a result, the tribals, especially children, have developed severe digestive ailments, resulting in death.
The starvation deaths in Rajasthan are a replay of a similar tragic story that unfolded in poverty-stricken Kashipur in the eastern state of Orissa last year. There, tribals driven by poverty and unable to buy even the subsidized rice provided through government ration shops were forced to eat fungus-ridden mango kernel.
As the starvation deaths in Kashipur hit the news, the Orissa government claimed that those who died were victims not of starvation but of their tradition of consuming mango kernel and boiled grass even while grain is available. The truth was that the tribals were forced to eat the poisonous kernel for want of an affordable choice.
In Rajasthan, the government is now claiming that the tribals prefer eating wild grass and that the deaths were caused by poor hygiene and disease. Government officials are busy defining starvation to prove that these were not starvation deaths. A starvation death is when there is no food material in the stomach, and government officials shamefully point out that the victims had eaten grass. Whatever the spin, it is hard to deny that the deaths were hunger-related.
The starvation deaths in Kashipur and Baran are just the tip of the iceberg. Hunger is widespread in India. It is said that at least 50 million Indians are on the brink of starvation and over 200 million Indians are underfed.
However, most of India’s poor, such as those who starved to death in Orissa and Rajasthan, cannot afford to buy the grains even at these subsidized rates. Many of them do not possess the Below Poverty Line (BPL) cards that entitle them to purchase at subsidized rates in ration shops. In several cases, the desperately poor have mortgaged their BPL cards to moneylenders or local traders.
Besides, the process of identifying the poor is severely flawed. An article in Outlook magazine points out that in Dharavi, Asia’s largest slum, situated in Mumbai, just 151 families are identified as BPL. Millions of poor across the country are categorized in government records as Above Poverty Line (APL).
``We had asked for special assistance for the drought-hit states, but our pleas went unheeded. We shall now take up the matter in parliament,`` she said, adding that drought was a serious problem that needed the greater attention of the government in New Delhi.
A Pocket Full of Faux Pas’
I think the best thing is to accept my inability to understand your masterpiece. Not sure whom you are discussing and what is your message. Please let me regain some confidence and tell me in simple words that you want people to be simple and stylish.
Posted by
anew
Dec 29, 2003 11:07 am
#14 by khatam-shud on December 28, 2003 4:39pm PTI think the best thing is to accept my inability to understand your masterpiece. Not sure whom you are discussing and what is your message. Please let me regain some confidence and tell me in simple words that you want people to be simple and stylish.
Another Attempt on Musharraf
Indians also have remarkable record of `killing` their leaders. Mahatma Gandhi, Indra Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi. That shows India had `terrorists` much before Pakistan. What are they doing nowadays? Killing Minorities, razing mosques and ablazing churches?
Posted by
anew
Dec 29, 2003 11:07 am
Indians also have remarkable record of `killing` their leaders. Mahatma Gandhi, Indra Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi. That shows India had `terrorists` much before Pakistan. What are they doing nowadays? Killing Minorities, razing mosques and ablazing churches?
Rethinking Plebiscite In Kashmir
Mullah Anew , in case you didn`t notice , with every passing year India gets stronger economically and hence militarily. With every passing year , the disparity between India and Pakistan on grows , as India has 12-13 times the economy and 3% higher growth rate. Now realistically , what chance does Pak have of competing with `Tyrant` India ? And what chance do the bechare kashmiris have of getting out of the clutches of the Indian Shaitan ?
India has 12-13 time more people sleeping on road-sides. Read history to know the fate of Rich Tyrants. God comes to the rescue of `bechares`. India or Israel may be getting economically stronger but getting morally and ethically bankrupt. How long Hindu fanatics will harass and terrorize the minorities?
Posted by
anew
Dec 29, 2003 08:36 am
#114 by gujjubania on December 28, 2003 11:28pm PTMullah Anew , in case you didn`t notice , with every passing year India gets stronger economically and hence militarily. With every passing year , the disparity between India and Pakistan on grows , as India has 12-13 times the economy and 3% higher growth rate. Now realistically , what chance does Pak have of competing with `Tyrant` India ? And what chance do the bechare kashmiris have of getting out of the clutches of the Indian Shaitan ?
India has 12-13 time more people sleeping on road-sides. Read history to know the fate of Rich Tyrants. God comes to the rescue of `bechares`. India or Israel may be getting economically stronger but getting morally and ethically bankrupt. How long Hindu fanatics will harass and terrorize the minorities?
Another Attempt on Musharraf
The most popular pakistani pop singer Ali Haider is caught on the report of neighbors for creating `nuisance`. He was enjoying the company of a female model specially flown from Lahore to Karachi for New Year celebration. Some `drinks` also present. Nothing unusual knowing the present day Pakistani `culture`. Then why ``Hijab``, which is now more a fashion or symbol of Identity than a Islamic practice, is a hot issue. BTW, Ali Haider and the `call girl` were also `hiding their faces` from press photographers.
Posted by
anew
Dec 28, 2003 11:28 pm
The most popular pakistani pop singer Ali Haider is caught on the report of neighbors for creating `nuisance`. He was enjoying the company of a female model specially flown from Lahore to Karachi for New Year celebration. Some `drinks` also present. Nothing unusual knowing the present day Pakistani `culture`. Then why ``Hijab``, which is now more a fashion or symbol of Identity than a Islamic practice, is a hot issue. BTW, Ali Haider and the `call girl` were also `hiding their faces` from press photographers.
Pakistan as a Frontline State in the Terror War
arjun_m,
``About two-thirds of all designated terrorist groups in the world have a Pakistani connection, according to the U.S. Treasury Department. ``
No crap, dude. The vast majority came out of the US sponsored war in Afghanistan. Neither the Pak government nor the US wanted their mercenaries to explode on the world scene as they did, however they`re not nearly as good as they think...sometimes the servent has a nasty surprise for his master.
It`s just amazing that America`s role in all this is ignored...willfull ignorance...gotta love it.
Americans used Islam as the only motivating force behind the jihad against Soviet Union in Afghanistan. The same is now presented as an evil when Muslim masses are denying American supermacy. The ``Jihadis and Terrorists`` are the product of Dr. Frankenstein. Islam does not support either ``American supported zionist funded Jihad of Afghanistan type Jihad`` or ``suicide bombing type of Jihad by individuals or Jihadi outfits``. But it does support an open and announced Jihad by all Islamic countries against States doing atrocities on Muslims viz. India and Israel. The Jihad of Kashmir by Kashmiris is a Jihad of whole Kashmiri nation to liberate themselves from Indian oppression. Practically, the so-called Islamic states of today will not come to their rescue and they even being very weak have to fight their own and sacrifice in the just cause. Saute to Palestinians and Kashmiris who are fighting against all odds. Shame to India and Israel for violating all the basic human rights and their persisting crimes against humanity.
Posted by
anew
Dec 28, 2003 10:59 pm
#141 by vertex on December 28, 2003 2:16pm PTarjun_m,
``About two-thirds of all designated terrorist groups in the world have a Pakistani connection, according to the U.S. Treasury Department. ``
No crap, dude. The vast majority came out of the US sponsored war in Afghanistan. Neither the Pak government nor the US wanted their mercenaries to explode on the world scene as they did, however they`re not nearly as good as they think...sometimes the servent has a nasty surprise for his master.
It`s just amazing that America`s role in all this is ignored...willfull ignorance...gotta love it.
Americans used Islam as the only motivating force behind the jihad against Soviet Union in Afghanistan. The same is now presented as an evil when Muslim masses are denying American supermacy. The ``Jihadis and Terrorists`` are the product of Dr. Frankenstein. Islam does not support either ``American supported zionist funded Jihad of Afghanistan type Jihad`` or ``suicide bombing type of Jihad by individuals or Jihadi outfits``. But it does support an open and announced Jihad by all Islamic countries against States doing atrocities on Muslims viz. India and Israel. The Jihad of Kashmir by Kashmiris is a Jihad of whole Kashmiri nation to liberate themselves from Indian oppression. Practically, the so-called Islamic states of today will not come to their rescue and they even being very weak have to fight their own and sacrifice in the just cause. Saute to Palestinians and Kashmiris who are fighting against all odds. Shame to India and Israel for violating all the basic human rights and their persisting crimes against humanity.
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