My Family Reunion Very Moving Indeed -

My grand father and family came to Pakistan from a ship from Bombay ,
he always tell me what the Hindu - Sikh did to us ( Muslims ) and what we
( Muslims ) did to them -right or wrong who cared ? he said -emotions
he told me forced people to do what they did , my g`pa told me
when the Phatans and Hazaras attacked Kashmir in early days of Pakistan
they took some Sikh Prisoners from the India Army and they ( Phatans)
used to say we are taking them to there village coz there old ban somehow
could not take part in Jihad so they will cut there throats so there old
man could go to heaven - they use to sharpen there knifes infront
of those skihs as well to make them scared obviously they were
caught by Pakistan Army and returned back to Indians - partition turned
best friends enemies somehow - and enemies friends - two
nation theory although was RIGHT but proved somehow wrong when East
Pakistan broke - but come again what happened was good for us ( Pakistanis)
Yes, Muslims killed Hindus and Sikhs in East Punjab and Sikhs killed us too
that was history - these things happen out of revenge maybe I could have done
the same if someone raped my mother and sisters- emotions do force us to do
what we don`t want too -
peace

Yasser Arafat: Twilight of a Warrior Arafat died the news didn`t bothered me at all ; who was Arafat ?
a symbol of what ? I don`t really respect Arafat - but I don`t know
I feel for him but why ? something I can not explain myself - may Allah
place him in Heaven and he rest in Peace - Ameen !
I had seen pictures and movies of OIC Summit - in Lahore then second one
in 7o`s - and to be honest it made me proud of what we ( Pakistanis ) did
at that time by uniting Muslims - bought tears to be honest -
Mujeeb huging Bhutto - Gadaffi with Shah Faisal one family - and Arafat`s
welcome was just amazing then in Pakistan - but things changed very soon-

Altaf Hussain Visits India: His Keynote Speech HP Bhai ,
Let me clear some of the point you raised
you said ` Urdu Speakings in Pakistan have never supported a political party that derives support all over Pakistan.
They abandoned Muslim League right after the partition. `
Why should we support Muslim League a bunch of Feudrals ! again if you
go and ask anyone in KU even the Jamatis in KU Political Science Dept that
includes likes of Dr. Manzoor Ahmed , Dr. Moonis Ahmer they would say Pakistan
was made for the intrests of Feudrals - and for that reason there had never been real
land reforms and will never be if you ` son of soil ` parties stay in power - by reading your
words I smell that Punjabi Class who thinks Urdu Speakings are a bunch of RAW agents
and that Punjab is real Pakistan . You ( HP ) said , ` they ( Urdu Speakings ) don`t trust
any other party ` - yes why should we trust any other party everyone has a right to vote
and we vote for our intrests so that our ( Urdu Speaking ) intrests are protected -
HP , you seems to think MQM is a alien party - and urdu speaking people are aliens just
coz they dont trust PML or PPP ( both representatives of Chaudries and Waderas)
you said , ` His message is for the under class of Urdu speaking and they outnumber any other
group in some cities in Sindh.` - -- MQM`s real strong point is lower middle class which is
lower middle class - and middle class of Karachi and Hyderabad - that includes from
Grade 2 civil chaprasi to a grade 22 officer in Islamabad - a fact that is universally accepted you
said before that Urdu Speaking don`t vote for sons of soils PML or PPP well they vote for MQM -
You said the upper class is happy with Mushraff , well whatever class either
middle / lower / lower middle whatever class of atleast Karachi is happy with Mush coz MQM
is happy with Mush - Mush is Karachi`s son - and share our vision of liberal Pakistan .
About Balochi Card - Punjabis need to understand one thing that they dont own Pakistan
from the police wala to a damn sweeper is from Punjab specially in Karachi and Quetta
which is unacceptable and is leading towards a great conflict in Baluchistan specially. Sind and
Baluchistan has always worked togather and will do so because our real aim is to get the fair share
of money which we really earns ( on the basis of what we earn and not of population ) while Punjab is oppose
to it - fair distribution of water - End to Quota System in CSS - etc..
if going against PUNJAB`s intrests is against nation intrest we in Sind and
Baluchistan are against National Intrest - if giving jobs to the local people is
against National Intrest - we ( Sindis and Balochis ) are against National Intrest -
Punjabis need to understand one thing and let there be not doubt what so ever
Punjab is just a part of Pakistan and not Pakistan -
Mantolives - you should go on a major reality test -

Altaf Hussain Visits India: His Keynote Speech
First of all I would like you all not to declare anyone specially us patriotic or a true Pakistani, we (MQM) don’t need anyone’s STAMP OF PATRIOTISM

fasialuno : you must be from Haqiqe ( created by Rangers Intel) - anyway let me answer you questions :
you seem to be disillusioned by PTV -
you asked :
1-name one good thing their party has done for the citizens of Karachi?
Representation of Karachites ( Urdu Speaking Community ) in NA and
PA - on Merit Systems of KU - giving Jobs to Urdu Speaking Community -
Restoring Sense of Partition in every walk of life - Countering Punjabi Officer
Class - Making Flyovers - Constructing Parks - giving Urdu Speaking Community
the confidence that Karachi is there city !
2- why has MQM not selected any non-muhajir candidates in Karachi?
again you are wrong , last elections two Sindi Candidates won MQM seats
one from Azizabad - in the past we fought elections on the basis on Muhajir
Quami Movement at that time obviously there was no room for non- Urdu
Speaking Person - there has been Hindus and now a Paris Person -
3- why would Altaf Hussein step down ?
because we don`t want to - ( full stop ) why can`t Bibi step down , why can`t
Nawaz step down ? why can`t Bush step down ?
I assume you still are living in some dumb`s world..

lets me more serious now ,

Mantolives , someone who don`t accept reality !

Romair ,
you mentioned Bhatta and liked it exclusively to Karachi as a product of
MQM - I agree with you and as I said a lot has changed now let me assure
you that it was some people who were using MQM`s name too so some
young misleaded members of MQM did take bhata but lot of people used
MQM`s name and fooled lot of people - the problem is corrected and
action is take on that matter - thanks for your concern -
But what we call Bhata is called ` Jigga Tax` in Punjab , its still be practiced
by PML members and has been a practice ever since . Whats important Romair
Bhai is that the highest leadership is not corrupt while if you look at the two feudral
parties ( PML and PPP in whatever form they are in now either Q , P , N or P P ) there
leaders had used ` plea bargained ` with NAB - so in the world where we have to choose
LESSER EVIL common sense would tell anyone and everyone that Bhatta ( Although
I hate this word and people who took it for whatever reason ) in such a context is less
evil - we got major leaders who robbed Billions of Dollars maybe they will get away with
it and most of them did and are proud ministers are more Patriotic or Real Pakistanis...
As far as the support of Urdu Speaking People to MQM is considered MQM`s
vote bank is always growing examples of record number of MQM representatives in NA and
PA respectively. Yes, we did lost couple of seats to MMA thanks to MMA`s Nazim
on record one of MMA`s Niab Nazim ( N. Nazimabad ) was caught by Rangers rigging -
anyhow , one of the two seats we lost is back to us on re-electoins - the other we
will secure it in next elections - right now we are more interested in winning Local
Body Elections which we will easily -
Veerish Sahib ,
Let me assue you that the people who migrated from India are pretty well
off on every walk of life - because when we see in India back at our families
who opted to stay in India just because they would get our the left over
properties are in a state of misery - no eduction - no sense what so ever -
we blong to Fatehpur SIkri and Agra - go and ask them and they still support
Pakistan Cricket Team there - anyhow , Altaf Hussain is not a great fan of India
as well - whatever India and Indians thinks MQM is a Pakistani Party and we have
had some ideological and political conflicts but that does not mean we are against
Pakistan - infact, Pakistan is in our best intrest . Pakistan has given everything
to us - we shall protect her -

Altaf Hussein I admit doesn`t got the personality like Imran Khan or his
Style of Speech is not like JFK but who cares ? He is from Middle Class ,
not a hypocrite feudral like Imran or wana JFK or one of those lslamabadis
he is a Representative of me and my community and a leader of one of the
biggest political party in Pakistan - its his ideology which counts its his
message which counts - Sindis and Balochis are proud of him - MQM
is a reality - to some sweet to some bitter - but a reality from which no one
can run - right or wrong as I said before, we are here to stay in hardcore
politics of regional and national politics -
Atleast Altaf Hussein has gutts to say that Madarsa`s are breeding Terrorists ! who would dare say that
in Pakistan ! if someone who says that he would be branded a Quaidiyani or from CIA ! think about it --
if I hurt someone`s feeling I apologize , just wanted to make some facts more clear - thank you
Ali

Altaf Hussain Visits India: His Keynote Speech replying Salim post 26 -
I do respect your opinions - if you know MQM you would understand
MQM never wants to dominate Pakistani Politics we are a regional
party and have no plans what so-ever to dominate Pakistani Politics overall
the simple reason for that is that our ( MQM ) base lies in Urdu Speaking ,
Gujarati Speaking and at times Sindi Speaking Areas - so don`t worry
Babur Ghori will not be permoted to PM - something we don`t want not at
this momment -
the problem is ` we ( MQM ) had a very good chance to eliminate the word
Muhajir and would just represent middle class Pakistan back when we
started as APMSO by Zia`s backing ( to be very honest ) but we lost that chance
anyhow , past is past we correct our policies are looking foward `
What I know of Phatan - Mohajir riots is that my uncles was used as a
bomb making factory especially `petrol bombs` the reason was he was a
Brig. in Pak Army no-body dare looked at his house - the reason of Phatan -
Mohajir Fights was that the Phatans taught it was NWFP while it was not
especially the Phatan Bus Conductors - anyhow things settled down afterwards
Phatans behave themselves now so do we - every city had riots LA had one !
About Mantolives as I explained hes a looser ! I thank people like him who
still call us ` Hindusturas` and I remember Sheikh Rasheed Called my dad
now a 22 grade officer in Fed. Govt ` Bhayaaa` and my father asked him to
shut up or he will call real Bhayaa in London - Sheikh Bhai took it as a joke -
our MNA`s were called ` Pujama Brigade` when we entered in NA for the first
time - these people are like Mantolves -
Balochis Support MQM and in 1o- years time everyone will see some changes
in Balochi - Politics - espcially in Makran and Gawader Area where there will be
atleast 2 MNA`s from MQM - anyhow , Balochis always supported us I know people
who fled Karachi and stayed in our house and lot of Baluchis Houses when Naseer ullah
Baber`s Operation started my father was posted in Quetta then -
Mushraff is a son of Karachi - Karachites support Mushraff not just hes a Mohajir
or Urdu Speaking he is liberal something which MQM stands for - He had made
some mistakes but in a country where we had to choose `lesser evil` Mush is not
that evil -

Romair : there are always fundo - bhata taking people - they are in MQM - they are
in PML and they are in PPP supported by the Politicians - thats a reality we have to
accept it - Bhatta Culture let me assure you is been dealt with and situation is lot
better not 100% but 80% - Dr.Imran Farooq`s Case is of one example -
Romair : Altaf Hussein is not the oppressor at all , If he would be Afaq wont be
alive ! if hes a oppressor there would be a blood bath in Sind - hes not - secondly,
if you know Sind and Karachi at all , MQM represents more then 95% of Urdu Speakings
in Sind - look at Karachi the only seat which is out of MQM reach is of Leyari which is
a area dominated by Makranis - the other area was Afaqs but next time I could assure you
it been one - whatever people think and believe should be respected -
as far as does MQM wants Pakistan ? thats a rubbish questoin to start with
its a questoin asked by Punjabis and people from Establishment not by any Urdu Speaking
Pakistan has given everything maybe more then we taught of - there are times when
we have been alienated but in the end we have bounced back and will now defend our
intrest on every level - if you know Sind Lobby newly established in Islamabad is one
of the examples -

Altaf Hussain Visits India: His Keynote Speech In the end of the day whatever the Punjabi Establishment says and whatever the Punjabi Youth thinks of ( because of misinformed PTV clips back at Nawaz`s period ) MQM will always be there to defend the rights of Urdu Speakings ( which are ` not sons of soil ` ) - and Sind -
I respect our critics , we did many evils - but we realized it thats more important -
Pres.Mushraff and every Urdu Speaking Alive in or outside Pakistan maynot love Altaf Hussain but everyone of us love MQM - and admire MQM and in the end of the will vote for MQM - what makes us really annoyed is when a deserving student dont get a seat in KU and someone from Northern Area or Kashmir gets the seat just coz of Quota System - a major issue another one is Jamatis which dont even allow students to enjoy music at Campus - they think they rule us - ! APMSO counter them effectively at every stage - a long list of small issue - grass root issues - and stories
let me tell you guys another point which made MQM so popular ,
Karachites vote MQM to get rid of Jamatis - something to think about !
cheers ,
anyone who wants to contact me can do so at
akchishti@hotmail.com

Altaf Hussain Visits India: His Keynote Speech reply to Temporal Post no . 3
Temporal first of all MQM ( Mutahida ) is not like Shev Sinha , MQM is a
secular party which is against the religous parties and we ( in MQM ) are
always been at odds with the Jamiat and The Mullahs in Karachi and other
parts of Sind and Pakistan . Yes we were formed by ISI so was almost every
political party to counter the opposition but since then we have been at odds
example of that was a army operation - things have change by 96` we have
realized our mistakes and are working for a more positive role in our society.
Whatever the outsiders say , we in Karachi , Hyderabad and in Pakistan are
a major force and a reality and those who oppose us are living in a limbo
( remember Altaf Husseins realism ? ) there will always be people especially
from the rich - feudral - army wanabe class who will oppose us but who cares?
we are waiting for the next local bodies elections in which we will get those hypocrite
jamatis out of Nazims offices too -- we have learned from our past mistakes in which
we bycotted some elections and the result was we were isolated .
nazarhayatkhan bhai : as I explained Altaf Hussein may not be the most
ideal leader but atleast he represents our ( urdu speaking and the middle class )
real views and opinions -

Mantolives : shows typical punjabi mentality something which we are against
and its people like him who give us more votes and make us more united and
powerful - wanabe critic trying to represent Punjab ! It was Jamatis who brought
guns in Universities not MQM -

Romair and Dost - Mittar :
Yes, we are by far the most educated and well off class in Pakistan - no doubt
about it that is the only reason we stand up against Feduralism and want more
economic atonomy from the centre - MQM is a party of lower - middle - upper
middle class - which makes up of more then 99% of Urdu Speaking and Memon
Speaking Community in Pakistan .
Theres no other party who stands up against Mullas and Conservatives and Feudrals
in Pakistan except MQM - MQM is targeted only because of our thinking which
is progressive -


My Conclusion :
MQM is a reality in Pakistan - right or wrong it is there to stay ! MQM`s
supporters including me were disappointed in some of the things we had
done before but we had made a fresh start - we stand against Fundos and Feudrals
- we will never stop our fight against Karo Kari and other social evils - we will
always support the poors either Sindi , Punjabi , Balochi or Phatan - yes
we made mistakes and we don`t blame others for that - no one is clean nor are we.
Altaf Hussain`s speech may not be the word of god but atleast someone has the
courage ( especially when hes in govt ) to say some hard words - I too, lets say don`t agree
with Altaf Bhai on some things like two nation theory while every professor of KU ( Political Sciences)
would tell you that Pakistan was mae for feudrals - so since we are here now lets do something about it !

Ranchor Line ka Firangi Karachi ka Kaleem -
Kaleem was not alone - my father works for IB at kinda good level and he happens to be one of those ` hindusturas` he was posted as DG Baluchistan back in Naseerullah`s period of killing us and he wanted to force my father to kill them my father rufused and asked everyone to stop killing the result was he was made OSD .
I don`t blame Army for what they had done they were simpily obeying there CO , I blame Punjabi Establishment and The so - called Feudral Class for what they had done - ...
Altaf Hussein and us ( everyone who votes ) are to blame partly but things has changed we had learned our lesson - we had dealt with the police officers who took revenge from us killing those - now we have forgiven !
Karachi will one day be Karachi again !

Benazir Bhutto: Third Time Lucky? What ever the wana-be `english class of Pakistan ` who are in a world of there own and thinks what ever they say and think is `right` just because they read some ` walayatee books ` BiBi ( Benazir ) is a reality corrupt or more corrupt her and her fathers name will always be in the good and bad books of every Pakistani. As far as Mush is concerned here was have someone ( Mush ) who hates sharing powers and his last option would be to share power with someone as dynamic as Benazir who will over-ride Mushraff`s Personality at every stage and if we know Mushraff he likes to dominate everything and everyone .
When Mushraff was a Maj Gen and BiBi happens to be a PM , Mush was giving her a lecture on Siachen and Kargil Sectors and Bibi was trying to dominate Mush by interupting him on almost every sentance , Mush rolled his pads and walked off ; BiBi asked Chief not ever to permote him - anyhow, Mush and BiBi would be the best combination but Mush would only opt BiBi when his options runs out .

Benazir Bhutto Visits the Bay Area B.B and Baba ( Nawaz Sharif ) has a major role to play in Pakistani Politics in time to come
whatever there past has been corrupt or not - its the real political parties, ( PPP and PML (N) - ) who can bring Pakistan to some sort of real stability whatever the chowk wana-be english class thinks thats where Pakistan`s real future lies - unlike parties like MMA who are always been supported by the establishment and whos only election issue is to fight only against Pres.Mushraff`s Uniform while they ( MMA ) are not against the real problem which is Mushraff himself .
As a Urdu speaking person from a Middle class family of Pakistan who supports MQM and have family links in MQM ( Muthida Qaumi Movement ) we are supporters of liberalism in Pakistan which our party has always stood up for and will always stand up for in times to come though we made mistakes and learned from it and are more matured now as the 3rd Largest Political Froce in Pakistan . Our ideas ( PPP`s , PML (N) and MQM ( whatever our differances might be ) - ) are same to permote liberalism , democracy and to kill religious extremism from our society .

Death of a Renowned Urdu Literati may Allah place him in Janat-e-Fardoos -- Ameen !

It`s sad, very sad when people like Ashfaq Saab leaves us all . Ashfaq Saab`s work in Urdu will always be remembered especially Aik Muhabbat Soo Afsanay and Guria .. some plays which will always be part of everyone of us ( Pakistanis ) - Ashfaq Sahib turned religious 5-6 years back and stopped most of his works but he regularly came on television for his lectures which everyone listens ..
Khudahafiz Ashfaq Sahib -- ( the tea cafe`s in lahore will miss you so will everyone of us )

2004: One Year Closer to Nineteen Eighty-four Every country has there intrests and most of them do whats best in there national intrest and if its USA , they do what is best for them in long term when if they have to invade Mars . Either its for oil or for stategic reasons Iraq is the best place where US troops should be deployed especially when some of the Saudi family are getting critical of US presence in KSA , so what better then Iraq ? Iraq borders Iran aswell . So where did the Isrealis come from ? Isreal`s best intrest is to install socialist and moderate regimes in close by countries which is been done for them by US , Jordan is one of the examples.

The 20 Best Pakistani Pop Songs … ever! I back HISEXELLENCY --
DILL DILL PAKISTAN is one of songs which everyone knows -- there cant be a better song then that in Pakistani Pop History - its a song which everyone knows ; if you go to Thar they would know and if you go anywhere in Pakistan the most common people would remember and with a smile sing the song ..
Jazba Junoon : another awesome song !
how could we all forget a mixture of pop and folk ` Allah Allah ker Bhayaa Allah he say Dar Bhaye-ya `
Hawa Hawa is another master piece ; Yaroo Yehee Dostee Hai by Strings ..purani Jeans aur Guitar by Ali Haider is not that bad as well :P
thinking of these songs reminds me more of Pakistan and Karachi where I went to school and then came in UK for studies ; it reminds me of when I was in class 3 and we sang ` Dil Dil Pakistan` in front of 1000 people :)

What word? My Dad is from Karachi and Mom from Lahore..
I think every city is good -- its like beauty is in the eyes of beholder ; its in human
nature that where a indiviual is born he naturally loves that particular place ...
to me Karachi is : a modern city where people are more liberal as compared to other parts of Pakistan its something like Bombay of Pakistan the difference is Karachi is cleaner then Bombay ... ( I know some people who disagree )
while Lahore , is a cultural city of more ` sexier Pakistanis ` :P clean and the transport is very good ( Thanks to Shabaz Sharif )
to me every city of Pakistan is same ; I love Pakistan every city as a Karachite I love Lahoris Heart ( which is quite big ) its like comparing London ( Karachi ) to Birmingham ( Lahore) something like that or close to it where Birmingham is picking up ..

Why not a well thought out constitution? A couple of weeks ago, I was at a dinner featuring the ambassador Dr. Maleeha Lodhi. After her speech, a very heated question and answer session began as a member of the audience disagreed strongly with her optimistic view of democracy’s prospects in Pakistan. He pointed out that the American system, with a very explicit separation of powers, has been extremely successful, while Pakistan’s constitution has failed over the last 50 years to create a stable system. Although this guest did not explicitly say so, it was my impression that he felt Pakistan’s system was inherently flawed, and would never be able to succeed. It is interesting therefore to compare the Constitution of Pakistan and America, as they are quite obviously two very different documents.

America’s constitution dates from 1789, when the former colonies agreed on a strong central government rather than the loose confederation that had existed since the defeat of the British in 1781. It has withstood the test of time, with a mere 17 amendments along with the Bill of Rights having been added since then. There are two things that stand out about the US Constitution. The first is its sparseness. It is a very brief document with powerful ideas expressed in the most compact way possible. For example, the freedom of religion in America rests on the short phrase, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Schoolchildren can easily read and understand the US Constitution, and in fact are made to do so in high school social studies classes. The entire document consists of 7 articles, the Bill of Rights, and 17 short amendments.

The other salient feature of the American document is its clear three-way separation of powers. Three independent branches of government are created. An executive branch is headed by a directly elected President, while all legislation is generated by a separate Congress divided into two houses, and the Federal Courts are filled by judges with lifetime appointments. They get there by being nominated by the President and later confirmed by the Congress. Certainly there is much to admire in this system, but does the wisdom of this arrangement make it foolproof?

Compare the US document to its Pakistani counterpart. Pakistan’s Constitution dates from 1973, and contains over 250 articles with about 15 amendments in less than 30 years. Pakistan has a parliamentary system, in which the dominant coalition in Parliament assumes both executive and legislative power. The leader of that coalition is the Prime Minister. But Pakistan also has the office of the President, who is elected to a five-year term by the votes of the National Assembly and a weighted vote of the Provincial Assemblies. The President has the right to nominate the judges for the Supreme Court, and before the Article was stricken by the last Sharif government, had the power to dismiss the government and order new elections.

One of the flaws of the Pakistani system is this strange role afforded to the President. If the President is supposed to be a symbolic head of state who projects national unity, as occurs in many other nations, then he should not have this degree of political power. But if he is to wield this much power, then the position should be directly elected by the people of Pakistan, and not be the result of backroom deals between MNA’s.

Where the American document is sparse, the Pakistani document spells out all sorts of details of government. One provision specifies which city the Supreme Court may sit in, and another describes how to deal with fractional votes during an election of President. All sorts of rights and obligations are handled with the language of legal statutes in great detail. This begs the question, why?

The answer goes to the heart of what the gentleman was debating about with the ambassador. What the US and Pakistani Constitution betray is the trust each nation places in its own political class. The US document is sparse, because Americans can trust their leaders to subscribe to and fulfill the spirit and intent of the document. The Pakistani version is so cumbersome and legalistic because there is no trust of the political class not to subvert the Constitution’s basic spirit. If the American Congress so desired it could create great havoc. It has a very broad power of impeachment. It can cut off the funds that pay for the electric bill in the White House if it so chooses. The lifetime appointed Supreme Court justices are free to do anything bizarre that strikes that small group of 9. And the President could order the arrest of the Congress (there is no parliamentary immunity in the US system), and defy the orders of the US Supreme Court with impunity. What makes the American system work, even when branches of government are controlled by bitter political enemies, is the inherent goodwill and sense of limit that all in politics subscribe to. President Franklin Roosevelt, at the height of his power and popularity, tried to subvert the Supreme Court in 1937, and was roundly defeated.
Pakistan’s political class cannot be trusted. That is why this unwieldy Constitution was created. Britain has one of the world’s most successful democracies, and has no written constitution at all. It is not Pakistan’s lack of a decent prescription that has prevented it from having political health, but rather its failure to take the medicine.

Prophecy and the Mullah: Hotel Mohenjodaro Mullah`s slowly starting to bash `Ágha Khanis` now after Ahmedis and some of the JI`s leaders are on record to `bash Agha Khanis` ; secondly, MMA`s allegation against PM to be - Shaukat Aziz that he`s a Ahmedi doesnt came as a surprise to me as whoever in Pakistan whos educated and liberal ( wears a suit ) is branded as Ahmedi aka Quadiyani!