My Pakistan Diary: A Rich Heritage Neglected
You ought to reconsider your opinions. You are speaking of a community that has done more for India than its numerical strength would lead anyone to expect.
The militancy in Punjab had many roots. Besides, you shouldn`t accuse Sikhs of conspiring with Pakistan against India. Even when Sikhs in general were very disappointed, the number of such people was very small. What`s more, the militancy in Punjab was put down by a Sikh officer!
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
May 28, 2004 10:36 am
Nikki7777You ought to reconsider your opinions. You are speaking of a community that has done more for India than its numerical strength would lead anyone to expect.
The militancy in Punjab had many roots. Besides, you shouldn`t accuse Sikhs of conspiring with Pakistan against India. Even when Sikhs in general were very disappointed, the number of such people was very small. What`s more, the militancy in Punjab was put down by a Sikh officer!
Carnage in Karachi
re - satyamvada # 32
Tahmed was being sarcastic, I thought!
re - by pmishra2 #31
`Two-faced hypocrite` is so apt for people who write about `freedom-fighters` without the least bit of compunction.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
May 9, 2004 06:17 am
Our sympathies are with the victims and their families. A dead man or woman has no religion or nationality.re - satyamvada # 32
Tahmed was being sarcastic, I thought!
re - by pmishra2 #31
`Two-faced hypocrite` is so apt for people who write about `freedom-fighters` without the least bit of compunction.
Meenakshi
Excellent post. It helped me correct a part of my own thinking. Thanks.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
May 7, 2004 11:43 am
re - Sadna #56Excellent post. It helped me correct a part of my own thinking. Thanks.
Education and the Nazim
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
May 6, 2004 01:24 pm
We have been listening too much about the feudal nature of Pakistani society. Nice to learn about a serious effort to decentralize power.
Meenakshi
Coming back to the article, Meenakshi, you invited trouble by locating it in a hot spot. When it comes to social issues, subtlety is lost on us.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
May 6, 2004 08:56 am
Godhra and Gujrat have clear relationships with the existing ideologies of Islam and Hindutva in India and the subcontinent. So Urstruly # 28 is quite right. Ideologies, worldviews, and religions cannot be separated from the actions of people who are motivated and inspired by those dogmas. If the intellectual class suits its political and moral convenience by denying this very close relationship then people will always be convinced of their own innocence, and will be preparing for the next round of bloodshed til the last man or woman is left alive.Coming back to the article, Meenakshi, you invited trouble by locating it in a hot spot. When it comes to social issues, subtlety is lost on us.
Meenakshi
``rather than on any scripture telling them how to treat non-hindus.
Give it a try!``
That is easy to do. Some googling and an active imagination is all that may be needed.
I hope analyses of religions, societies, and behaviors are carried out at a deeper level. For example, Hinduism is not a scripture-based religion. So looking into specific `scriptures` in order to understand Hinduism is like digging into a Khet when all the gold and stones lie in a far-away khalihan.
Besides, I don`t think one can separate religions from their histories either.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
May 6, 2004 08:56 am
re: - dost-Mittar # 29``rather than on any scripture telling them how to treat non-hindus.
Give it a try!``
That is easy to do. Some googling and an active imagination is all that may be needed.
I hope analyses of religions, societies, and behaviors are carried out at a deeper level. For example, Hinduism is not a scripture-based religion. So looking into specific `scriptures` in order to understand Hinduism is like digging into a Khet when all the gold and stones lie in a far-away khalihan.
Besides, I don`t think one can separate religions from their histories either.
Another Forgotten Hero of Pakistan
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/review/review4.htm
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
May 6, 2004 08:56 am
Dawn`s magazines are full of human interest stories. I particularly liked this recent one -http://www.dawn.com/weekly/review/review4.htm
From Jinnah to Jamali
You have made many friends with those words.
And please don`t call yourselves Kauravas. Aren`t we the numerically superior ones? ;-)
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
May 4, 2004 02:07 pm
Farrukh # 30You have made many friends with those words.
And please don`t call yourselves Kauravas. Aren`t we the numerically superior ones? ;-)
Who Decides?
If the deification of Muhammad reflects the ``vestiges of several centuries of Hindu influence`` then why was the call to Kill Salman Rushdie, most strongly, non Indian or non Hindu in origin?
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
Apr 28, 2004 09:12 am
Ansari #78, If the deification of Muhammad reflects the ``vestiges of several centuries of Hindu influence`` then why was the call to Kill Salman Rushdie, most strongly, non Indian or non Hindu in origin?
An Indian in Pakistan
That is a very wholesome development. Thanks for the information.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
Apr 21, 2004 08:46 am
nazarhayatkhan #144That is a very wholesome development. Thanks for the information.
Youhana Set to Score Triple Century Against Exhausted Indian Attack
In their sense humor intact, Pakistanis have been champs. If Indians were in a similar situation, we would have raised hell.
Pakistani team is essentially strong. In the next two tests, they could give us a tough time.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
Apr 1, 2004 06:29 am
re - babelicious # 9In their sense humor intact, Pakistanis have been champs. If Indians were in a similar situation, we would have raised hell.
Pakistani team is essentially strong. In the next two tests, they could give us a tough time.
Murder on Helm Street
Pathan does come from a very religious background.
He is a wonderful lad. If he keeps his focus he should have a great future.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
Apr 1, 2004 05:40 am
ref- Naqshbandi #8Pathan does come from a very religious background.
He is a wonderful lad. If he keeps his focus he should have a great future.
V. S. Naipaul
Well put, Soysauce #19.
If we were willing to accept the criticism of our religions, we would accept critics more willingly. That goes for both Hindus and Muslims.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
Mar 23, 2004 06:22 pm
``Overall, his dislike of hinduism is exceeded only by his detestation of islam.``Well put, Soysauce #19.
If we were willing to accept the criticism of our religions, we would accept critics more willingly. That goes for both Hindus and Muslims.
Valentine’s Day
Happy Valentine`s day to all. A day of happiness will not harm anyone.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
Feb 15, 2004 09:49 am
Nicely done. Those Indians and Pakistanis who don`t like Valentines day should be locked up with each other for these 24 hours.Happy Valentine`s day to all. A day of happiness will not harm anyone.
History, Culture and the Mullahs
I agree with Naqshbandi. Religious conversions themselves say nothing about any religious doctrine. We should restrain our silly enthusiasm over such occurrences.
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
Feb 14, 2004 03:47 pm
re: Naqshbandi # 182I agree with Naqshbandi. Religious conversions themselves say nothing about any religious doctrine. We should restrain our silly enthusiasm over such occurrences.
The Constipated Faujiz
Lot fo Qadianis feel close to Sikhism particularly Guru Nanak and have lot of respect for him
Wish it were true that such activities were driven by `respect.`
On the contrary, these are standard techniques that have been traditionally deployed against Hindus and Sikhs. It`s not only the Qadianis who indulge in them. Many non Qadianis use the name of Kalki to get Hindus to convert.
One of the strangest things is that Hindus avoid discussing the art and the science that others have used to convert Hindus to other religions!
Posted by
AnOrdinaryHindu
Feb 11, 2004 03:50 pm
re: Dullabhatti # 63Lot fo Qadianis feel close to Sikhism particularly Guru Nanak and have lot of respect for him
Wish it were true that such activities were driven by `respect.`
On the contrary, these are standard techniques that have been traditionally deployed against Hindus and Sikhs. It`s not only the Qadianis who indulge in them. Many non Qadianis use the name of Kalki to get Hindus to convert.
One of the strangest things is that Hindus avoid discussing the art and the science that others have used to convert Hindus to other religions!
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