Pervez Musharraf Declares Emergency in Pakistan
What a coincidence! Three Pavezes have come together to form a 'Trio of Power' in Pakistan.
Incidentally,'Parvez' is the name of an anti-prophet ruler of Iran who is considered to be guilty of blasphemy like Salman Rushdi by the Mullah.
I had a peon by this name. One day when I called him by this name he retorted, "Sir, don't call me by this bloody name as I have changed my name to 'Meboob'". I asked him why he did so. He said,"The Imam of our mosque told me that 'Parvez' was the name of an enemy of the Prophet and as such to be called by this name is sheer blasphemy".
What our Chowky Ulema say in this respect?
Posted by
teshah
Nov 5, 2007 06:04 pm
Re: # 183What a coincidence! Three Pavezes have come together to form a 'Trio of Power' in Pakistan.
Incidentally,'Parvez' is the name of an anti-prophet ruler of Iran who is considered to be guilty of blasphemy like Salman Rushdi by the Mullah.
I had a peon by this name. One day when I called him by this name he retorted, "Sir, don't call me by this bloody name as I have changed my name to 'Meboob'". I asked him why he did so. He said,"The Imam of our mosque told me that 'Parvez' was the name of an enemy of the Prophet and as such to be called by this name is sheer blasphemy".
What our Chowky Ulema say in this respect?
Pervez Musharraf Declares Emergency in Pakistan
hamidm
Do you think Hindus will usurp your toilets if you rejoin India? No dear Hamid most of the people prefer squatting in the open, especially in the villages where squatting in the lush green fields with lot of fresh air full of oxygen is really enjoyable.
In any case, India, in my view, is too vast a country, with so many diverse nationalities and cultures that it is well nigh impossible to govern it properly as a single state. At the most we can have a loose union like the European Union. SARK is perhaps a good step in this direction.
Posted by
teshah
Nov 3, 2007 07:10 pm
Re: # 3hamidm
Do you think Hindus will usurp your toilets if you rejoin India? No dear Hamid most of the people prefer squatting in the open, especially in the villages where squatting in the lush green fields with lot of fresh air full of oxygen is really enjoyable.
In any case, India, in my view, is too vast a country, with so many diverse nationalities and cultures that it is well nigh impossible to govern it properly as a single state. At the most we can have a loose union like the European Union. SARK is perhaps a good step in this direction.
Voice from Waziristan
Strange as it may seem the tribals are allotted a dozen of seats in the National Assembly of Pakistan to partake in making laws for the country which do not apply upon them. Moreover they are allowed utilities like electricity but they seldom pay the bill for it. WAPDA which is a terror for Pakies in general becomes a 'bheegi bili, vis a vis, the tribals.
An acquantis of mine, an XEN WAPDA, appoited in the tribal areas once narrated the following story to me of his altercation with a tribal:
XEN: Khan why don't you pay the bill.
Khan: What for?
XEN: For the electricity you used.
Khan: Who used eletricity? 'Kho chih' your electricity comes in through one wire and goes out through the other. I don't take out any of it. On the other hand it fuses my bulbs some time.
Only a tribal can dare say such a thing to WAPDA.
Posted by
teshah
Nov 2, 2007 07:13 pm
Re: # 66Strange as it may seem the tribals are allotted a dozen of seats in the National Assembly of Pakistan to partake in making laws for the country which do not apply upon them. Moreover they are allowed utilities like electricity but they seldom pay the bill for it. WAPDA which is a terror for Pakies in general becomes a 'bheegi bili, vis a vis, the tribals.
An acquantis of mine, an XEN WAPDA, appoited in the tribal areas once narrated the following story to me of his altercation with a tribal:
XEN: Khan why don't you pay the bill.
Khan: What for?
XEN: For the electricity you used.
Khan: Who used eletricity? 'Kho chih' your electricity comes in through one wire and goes out through the other. I don't take out any of it. On the other hand it fuses my bulbs some time.
Only a tribal can dare say such a thing to WAPDA.
Voice from Waziristan
"Surrendering to the indians appear to be the best option for the pak troops at present."
What an option!
But who will get them freed now? Benazir, the daughter of Bhutto who had got 90,ooo of them freed previously but got hanged in recompense.
Posted by
teshah
Nov 1, 2007 07:08 pm
Re: # 55"Surrendering to the indians appear to be the best option for the pak troops at present."
What an option!
But who will get them freed now? Benazir, the daughter of Bhutto who had got 90,ooo of them freed previously but got hanged in recompense.
Communists and the Making of Pakistan
Btw, are not the Jats of Gujrat, Ch. Shujaat, Parvez (There another Parvez has come up but he is Keyani),etc., playing the role of Sir Chhotu Ram today?
Alas, Sir Sikandar Hayat died at a crucial moment in history. Had he lived he and Chhotu would not have allowed Punjab to be partitioned with the resultant internecine carnage of Punjabies.
Posted by
teshah
Oct 29, 2007 06:30 pm
Thank you dear YLH for reviving our memories.Btw, are not the Jats of Gujrat, Ch. Shujaat, Parvez (There another Parvez has come up but he is Keyani),etc., playing the role of Sir Chhotu Ram today?
Alas, Sir Sikandar Hayat died at a crucial moment in history. Had he lived he and Chhotu would not have allowed Punjab to be partitioned with the resultant internecine carnage of Punjabies.
Voice from Waziristan
Sorry I have a correction to make:
Please read 'accusing' instead of 'accuse' at the end of the third line of para 2nd.
Thanks
Posted by
teshah
Oct 28, 2007 06:02 pm
Re: # 5Sorry I have a correction to make:
Please read 'accusing' instead of 'accuse' at the end of the third line of para 2nd.
Thanks
Voice from Waziristan
What is required now is the soul-searching by the people of Pakistan who used to looking at religion as a panacea. But this is what the people would never dare to do under the present milieu. When their very leaders assumed to be moderate and liberal like Benazir and Musharraf use religion as a political stunt how can you expect the people doing any soul-searching. Just see Benazir: While commenting on the recent bomb attack on her rally in Karachi, she says that no Musalman can do that, but then goes on to accuse some Muslim political leaders for the attack. And Musharraf goes on bragging off and on about the opening of the doors of Kahbah for him for six times. In fact the very identity of the Pakies is in crisis. In a country claimed to have been established on the basis of a faith the very faith of all its citizens has been made questionable.
Interestingly, there were times when the Pakhtoons had extreme nationalistic tendencies; so much so, that some of the Pakhtoon activists against One Unit during fifties would accuse Punjabies of using Islam for imposing their hegemony over entire Pakistan would openly threaten that they would relinquish Islam enmasse if their province was not restored. But today the position has somewhat been reversed. The same Pakhtoons today are using Islam as to threaten the very existence of Pakistan by making it the most dangerous country in the eyes of the world.
In the circumstances I would advise you to use ‘Imam Zamin’ and sacrifice black goats as many as you can afford as is being done by Benazir herself and by her ‘Jialas’ on her behalf.
Posted by
teshah
Oct 28, 2007 05:55 pm
KhalidWhat is required now is the soul-searching by the people of Pakistan who used to looking at religion as a panacea. But this is what the people would never dare to do under the present milieu. When their very leaders assumed to be moderate and liberal like Benazir and Musharraf use religion as a political stunt how can you expect the people doing any soul-searching. Just see Benazir: While commenting on the recent bomb attack on her rally in Karachi, she says that no Musalman can do that, but then goes on to accuse some Muslim political leaders for the attack. And Musharraf goes on bragging off and on about the opening of the doors of Kahbah for him for six times. In fact the very identity of the Pakies is in crisis. In a country claimed to have been established on the basis of a faith the very faith of all its citizens has been made questionable.
Interestingly, there were times when the Pakhtoons had extreme nationalistic tendencies; so much so, that some of the Pakhtoon activists against One Unit during fifties would accuse Punjabies of using Islam for imposing their hegemony over entire Pakistan would openly threaten that they would relinquish Islam enmasse if their province was not restored. But today the position has somewhat been reversed. The same Pakhtoons today are using Islam as to threaten the very existence of Pakistan by making it the most dangerous country in the eyes of the world.
In the circumstances I would advise you to use ‘Imam Zamin’ and sacrifice black goats as many as you can afford as is being done by Benazir herself and by her ‘Jialas’ on her behalf.
The Mullah and the Munir Report
A correction:
Please read 'are' after Mullah in the 5th line.
Posted by
teshah
Oct 27, 2007 05:45 pm
Re: # 177A correction:
Please read 'are' after Mullah in the 5th line.
Welcome Home Ms Bhutto
What do you mean by alien ideas? Is not Sulfi Islam an alien idea which has completely vanquished our local god 'Khuda'?
Posted by
teshah
Oct 24, 2007 06:21 pm
Re: # 301What do you mean by alien ideas? Is not Sulfi Islam an alien idea which has completely vanquished our local god 'Khuda'?
Welcome Home Ms Bhutto
hamidm
But pirs or syeds are generally on top. Even Communist Party of Pakistan was once led by Syed Sajjad Zaheer and its Student Wing by Syed Zuhair Rizwi. If you go further all intellectual ledership is provided by semitic race, like Karl Marx, Frieud, Einstein, Lenin, to name a few in modern times even. None of them was a landlord or a Pir, as per common terminology.
# 176 by bulleya
Your name always remind me of Bulleh Shah, the greatest humanist of the world. He was a Syed but himself a 'Mureed' of an Araeen pir.
Btw, your name suggests that you are a mureed of Bulleh shah like myself. Is it so.
There was also G.M. Syed Marhoom also. I saw even Hindus touching his feet and calling him 'Saaeen', 'Saaeen'. It were only his qualities of heart and head for which people belonging to all casts and religions adored him.
In fact every institution can be abused by selfish people as was done with Peeri Mureedi by professional peers.
Posted by
teshah
Oct 23, 2007 06:43 pm
Re: # 192hamidm
But pirs or syeds are generally on top. Even Communist Party of Pakistan was once led by Syed Sajjad Zaheer and its Student Wing by Syed Zuhair Rizwi. If you go further all intellectual ledership is provided by semitic race, like Karl Marx, Frieud, Einstein, Lenin, to name a few in modern times even. None of them was a landlord or a Pir, as per common terminology.
# 176 by bulleya
Your name always remind me of Bulleh Shah, the greatest humanist of the world. He was a Syed but himself a 'Mureed' of an Araeen pir.
Btw, your name suggests that you are a mureed of Bulleh shah like myself. Is it so.
There was also G.M. Syed Marhoom also. I saw even Hindus touching his feet and calling him 'Saaeen', 'Saaeen'. It were only his qualities of heart and head for which people belonging to all casts and religions adored him.
In fact every institution can be abused by selfish people as was done with Peeri Mureedi by professional peers.
Welcome Home Ms Bhutto
rf786
You say, inter alia:
"JI has trained militants and history of violence in East Pakistan and Kashmir. Being followers of Maulana Maududi's extremist version of Islam they are closely aligned to Al Qaeda and both entities share the same vision."
Excuse me you are wrong here. Moulana Maudoodi had not supported so called jehad in Kashmir and he had to suffer for that. He would have certaily opposed the carnage in the erstwhile East Pakistan in the name of Islam if he had been alive. Maudoodi was certainly a man of principle.
His proteges have however different agendas. These very Islam lovers had declared after fall of Decca that they would consider Pak Army to be guilty of treason if Bangladesh was recognised. There were wall chalking everywhere to this effect. But the same ILs later on became henchmen of Zia's army rule
Posted by
teshah
Oct 22, 2007 05:57 pm
Re: # 160rf786
You say, inter alia:
"JI has trained militants and history of violence in East Pakistan and Kashmir. Being followers of Maulana Maududi's extremist version of Islam they are closely aligned to Al Qaeda and both entities share the same vision."
Excuse me you are wrong here. Moulana Maudoodi had not supported so called jehad in Kashmir and he had to suffer for that. He would have certaily opposed the carnage in the erstwhile East Pakistan in the name of Islam if he had been alive. Maudoodi was certainly a man of principle.
His proteges have however different agendas. These very Islam lovers had declared after fall of Decca that they would consider Pak Army to be guilty of treason if Bangladesh was recognised. There were wall chalking everywhere to this effect. But the same ILs later on became henchmen of Zia's army rule
Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?
freethinker
"But what perhaps impedes understanding of the situation more than anything else is that the term "mankind" feels vague and abstract."
But what about the term 'religion'? It is more vague than the term 'mankind'. It includes anti-human cults like those of 'Kaali Devi' and 'IslamoFascists' to the great humanistic 'Buddhism'. We see 'pure' spiritualistic religion like 'Makki' Islam turning into an over-politicised 'Madni' Islam, leading ultimately to the carnage of the very family of the Prophet.
Posted by
teshah
Oct 20, 2007 06:07 pm
Re: # 71freethinker
"But what perhaps impedes understanding of the situation more than anything else is that the term "mankind" feels vague and abstract."
But what about the term 'religion'? It is more vague than the term 'mankind'. It includes anti-human cults like those of 'Kaali Devi' and 'IslamoFascists' to the great humanistic 'Buddhism'. We see 'pure' spiritualistic religion like 'Makki' Islam turning into an over-politicised 'Madni' Islam, leading ultimately to the carnage of the very family of the Prophet.
Welcome Home Ms Bhutto
Posted by
teshah
Oct 20, 2007 05:41 pm
BB is welcome if for not any other reason but a beautiful feministic touch to our politics. People of Pakiland are in fact tired of those ugly faces rampaging on the electronic media, the ugliest one of them all the short-cut Az with his 'rut' of performance and 'meli aankh'.
The Mullah and the Munir Report
declaring a section of the citizens of Pakistan as 'non-muslim' to appease the Mullah who are now clamouring for a similar fatwa against the Shias.
Posted by
teshah
Oct 17, 2007 06:20 pm
Thanks for refreshing our memories. MIR is a classic indeed which must be publicized widely, preferably, in Urdu. It is pity that this report was sold away in 'raddi' and the bigoted Mullah playing havoc with the nation. Benazir is on the media rampage but no body asks her how she can talk about ZAB, democracy and the constitution in the same breath when it was ZAB who had converted the constitution into a 'Fatwa'declaring a section of the citizens of Pakistan as 'non-muslim' to appease the Mullah who are now clamouring for a similar fatwa against the Shias.
Whither Pakistan? The Presidential \'Election\' and Beyond
Urstruly
Welcome dear I was missing you for a long. But I am sorry you did not get my point. I agree with you that moon-sighting should not ,as a matter of course, be made an issue at all and it was actually not so till the bigoted mullah like Munib started trying to impose their holy writ by blowing up and exploiting this issue.
May Allah save Islam from the Mullah like Munib who speaks out lies like a demi-god, a god who does not know that there is in fact no common day or night in the global world but only a passing shadow.
Regards
Posted by
teshah
Oct 17, 2007 05:37 pm
Re: # 73Urstruly
Welcome dear I was missing you for a long. But I am sorry you did not get my point. I agree with you that moon-sighting should not ,as a matter of course, be made an issue at all and it was actually not so till the bigoted mullah like Munib started trying to impose their holy writ by blowing up and exploiting this issue.
May Allah save Islam from the Mullah like Munib who speaks out lies like a demi-god, a god who does not know that there is in fact no common day or night in the global world but only a passing shadow.
Regards
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