Terrorism and the Muslim World
``Sovereignty is bound by geographical boundaries.
No state can enforce its laws outside its borders. (Some, like India, are even unable to enforce their writ inside their borders.)``
HAHAHAHA!!!! masterful!!
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Sep 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Re: # 34``Sovereignty is bound by geographical boundaries.
No state can enforce its laws outside its borders. (Some, like India, are even unable to enforce their writ inside their borders.)``
HAHAHAHA!!!! masterful!!
Standing Alone in Mecca by Asra Q. Nomani
good question. i am glad you asked. travel to makkah has become increasingly commercialized (unfortunately in my opinion). there are probably about ten or so 4-star hotels around the grand mosque itself, and maybe a couple more in the general vicinity. this has taken away from the natural beauty of makkah, a hilly and rocky city surrounded by somewhat green patches along its borders toward jeddah. yes, it is true that non-muslims are not allowed to enter makkah. this is a direct command of God in the Quran. i believe it is not meant to be a discriminatory practice (since for many many years during the time of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) there was a sizable non-Muslim community, including some Jews), but rather is meant to ensure that there is no quarrel or unnecessary friction and disturbance in the holy city. Of course, non-muslims have found ways to sneak in. but the process of entering makkah is rather difficult. you must apply for a visa obviously to saudi arabia. if you signal that you are intending to perform pilgrimage, i believe the saudi interior ministry does its research and grants visas only to confirmed muslims, probably checking with the host country and doing other background checks. in case of a slip, there is a check at the border of the holy city by saudi police, where they check for religious documents. so by all means, its not easy. hope that helps.
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Sep 13, 2005 09:54 pm
Re: # 7good question. i am glad you asked. travel to makkah has become increasingly commercialized (unfortunately in my opinion). there are probably about ten or so 4-star hotels around the grand mosque itself, and maybe a couple more in the general vicinity. this has taken away from the natural beauty of makkah, a hilly and rocky city surrounded by somewhat green patches along its borders toward jeddah. yes, it is true that non-muslims are not allowed to enter makkah. this is a direct command of God in the Quran. i believe it is not meant to be a discriminatory practice (since for many many years during the time of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) there was a sizable non-Muslim community, including some Jews), but rather is meant to ensure that there is no quarrel or unnecessary friction and disturbance in the holy city. Of course, non-muslims have found ways to sneak in. but the process of entering makkah is rather difficult. you must apply for a visa obviously to saudi arabia. if you signal that you are intending to perform pilgrimage, i believe the saudi interior ministry does its research and grants visas only to confirmed muslims, probably checking with the host country and doing other background checks. in case of a slip, there is a check at the border of the holy city by saudi police, where they check for religious documents. so by all means, its not easy. hope that helps.
Selling the Family Silver
do you look as stupid as you sound? its funny when indians take a moral highground and give lectures about pakistan, when RSS and VHP fags run around scot free after butchering thousands of innocent civilians on the streets, while the police watched and the CM gave cover. what a great legal system!
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taqat-e-parvaaz
May 6, 2005 12:02 pm
Re: # 1do you look as stupid as you sound? its funny when indians take a moral highground and give lectures about pakistan, when RSS and VHP fags run around scot free after butchering thousands of innocent civilians on the streets, while the police watched and the CM gave cover. what a great legal system!
Linking Poverty and Population
yes. i know. the truth always does hurt, especially when you have an inferiority complex about your country being ruled by outsiders for 600 years.
#33
all the other options you gave for the oil are too expensive. gwadar presents the best scenario. read anything on this by any expert.
#32
``I know that, Pak can once again be an irritant. And india will definitely respond to it when it is necessary. but as long as there is peace we welcome it.``
hahahaha...that one was good. thats why your army twice over the past four years came to the border, only to put its tails between its smelly behind and run away!! hahaha.. you`re funnier than you look.
yes, you are right, india can go to any extent to shed blood. only you forgot to mention who`s blood its been shedding as an occupying force, denying a freedom struggle in its own homeland. in the meantime, its joined the ranks of rogue states like israel in defying UN security council resolutions. why does the army need 600000 armymen in that area? are you guys that afraid of the mujahideen? india needs a big spanking is all it is. until that comes, it will not behave itself. by the way genius, the architect of kargil was not just musharraf. there were four other pakistan army generals involved. unfortunately, india has no other choice now but to deal with him. uncle sam has the rod for manmohans ass ready if it refuses. your dumbass solution to kashmir is the reason why thousands of kashmiri women continue to be raped by your soldiers. that solution is not acceptable. the quicker your government realizes that the quicker the entire region can move ahead.
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 30, 2005 10:29 pm
Re: # 35yes. i know. the truth always does hurt, especially when you have an inferiority complex about your country being ruled by outsiders for 600 years.
#33
all the other options you gave for the oil are too expensive. gwadar presents the best scenario. read anything on this by any expert.
#32
``I know that, Pak can once again be an irritant. And india will definitely respond to it when it is necessary. but as long as there is peace we welcome it.``
hahahaha...that one was good. thats why your army twice over the past four years came to the border, only to put its tails between its smelly behind and run away!! hahaha.. you`re funnier than you look.
yes, you are right, india can go to any extent to shed blood. only you forgot to mention who`s blood its been shedding as an occupying force, denying a freedom struggle in its own homeland. in the meantime, its joined the ranks of rogue states like israel in defying UN security council resolutions. why does the army need 600000 armymen in that area? are you guys that afraid of the mujahideen? india needs a big spanking is all it is. until that comes, it will not behave itself. by the way genius, the architect of kargil was not just musharraf. there were four other pakistan army generals involved. unfortunately, india has no other choice now but to deal with him. uncle sam has the rod for manmohans ass ready if it refuses. your dumbass solution to kashmir is the reason why thousands of kashmiri women continue to be raped by your soldiers. that solution is not acceptable. the quicker your government realizes that the quicker the entire region can move ahead.
Linking Poverty and Population
pakistan doesnt have to be prosperous or rich to deal with india. yes, an economically prosperous pakistan will be a bigger thorn in india`s side. however, pakistan today can still be a thorn should things change. as i said, we dont need to be rich or prosperous to fight india. yes, i remember kargil. india had to run to the US to buy coffins for its 500+ dead soldiers, devastated by a hail of bullets from SSG commandos and the Northern Light Infantry in under 2 months. the americans didnt lose that many men in iraq for 8 months! gives you an idea of how devastating kargil was for `mighty` india. as i`ve said, drop the inferiority complex now. india doesnt have the balls to harm pakistan, and pakistan has the brains to understand that any confrontation will be mutually destructive. therefore, its in india`s best interest to solve kashmir. unless of course your government loves to flush tax dollars down the drain (perhaps thats why the LCA and other indian defence projects are still in the doldrums). as for images in the west, yes pakistan was a sideline state before 911. but even in that situation, india couldnt help but gyrate her hips for uncle sam to get his attention. india would have loved for powell to have made that call in delhi. the indian foreign ministry would have been doing the bhangra the whole night. and this is fact. so dont deny it. india has always done anything to somehow get into bed with uncle sam, somehow thinking that by doing so uncle sam will forget about pakistan. pakistan and musharraf didnt make a reactionary move. it was extremely calculated on the army`s part. world scenarios change. no one predicted 9/11. remember india during the cold war? india`s only friend was russia, which was busy getting its butt whooped by the mujahideen. the US didnt even want to spit on india in those days. a country`s interests change with the times. pakistan takes care of its interests. its as simple as that.
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 30, 2005 04:23 pm
Re: # 29pakistan doesnt have to be prosperous or rich to deal with india. yes, an economically prosperous pakistan will be a bigger thorn in india`s side. however, pakistan today can still be a thorn should things change. as i said, we dont need to be rich or prosperous to fight india. yes, i remember kargil. india had to run to the US to buy coffins for its 500+ dead soldiers, devastated by a hail of bullets from SSG commandos and the Northern Light Infantry in under 2 months. the americans didnt lose that many men in iraq for 8 months! gives you an idea of how devastating kargil was for `mighty` india. as i`ve said, drop the inferiority complex now. india doesnt have the balls to harm pakistan, and pakistan has the brains to understand that any confrontation will be mutually destructive. therefore, its in india`s best interest to solve kashmir. unless of course your government loves to flush tax dollars down the drain (perhaps thats why the LCA and other indian defence projects are still in the doldrums). as for images in the west, yes pakistan was a sideline state before 911. but even in that situation, india couldnt help but gyrate her hips for uncle sam to get his attention. india would have loved for powell to have made that call in delhi. the indian foreign ministry would have been doing the bhangra the whole night. and this is fact. so dont deny it. india has always done anything to somehow get into bed with uncle sam, somehow thinking that by doing so uncle sam will forget about pakistan. pakistan and musharraf didnt make a reactionary move. it was extremely calculated on the army`s part. world scenarios change. no one predicted 9/11. remember india during the cold war? india`s only friend was russia, which was busy getting its butt whooped by the mujahideen. the US didnt even want to spit on india in those days. a country`s interests change with the times. pakistan takes care of its interests. its as simple as that.
Soapbox Sania
you are right. pakistan has not and neither has bangladesh. but it would seem the only logical reason that would be is because of the differing percentages of minorities in pakistan and india. if minorities were not accepted in pakistan, there would be no deepak perwani, no daanish kaneria, no yousaf youhana, no muhammad ali jinnah. minorities are a mere 3% of the population. the same is likely true in bangladesh, though i am not privy to any numbers. one could argue that its a lot to expect from such a small minority. that would be like asking a jehovah`s witness to come up for the office of the president of the united states. muslims in india, on the other hand constitute roughly 20% if i am not mistaken. thats a sizable difference. add the other minorities and the number is probably higher. this may have something to do with it.
Posted by
taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 30, 2005 03:50 pm
Re: # 399you are right. pakistan has not and neither has bangladesh. but it would seem the only logical reason that would be is because of the differing percentages of minorities in pakistan and india. if minorities were not accepted in pakistan, there would be no deepak perwani, no daanish kaneria, no yousaf youhana, no muhammad ali jinnah. minorities are a mere 3% of the population. the same is likely true in bangladesh, though i am not privy to any numbers. one could argue that its a lot to expect from such a small minority. that would be like asking a jehovah`s witness to come up for the office of the president of the united states. muslims in india, on the other hand constitute roughly 20% if i am not mistaken. thats a sizable difference. add the other minorities and the number is probably higher. this may have something to do with it.
Soapbox Sania
congratulations on the 40th birthday. let me ask you a question. is there any reason to believe that indian muslims would NOT elect a minority leader were they the majority? if you can provide enough evidence to show why an honest and straightforward leader could not and would not be elected, i will listen. i am pretty sure historically that muslim governments have always facilitated the rise of non muslims in the higher ranks of government. for some odd reason, this trend has found a reversal as of the modern period. islamic spain is a good example. as for having a non-muslim rule a muslim land, i am not sure that is even allowed in islam. it complicates the enforcement of islamic law, which is the basic requirement of a muslim government. though again, i am not sure if there is anything that says that non muslims cannot rule muslim lands. perhaps someone more enlightened here could shed some light on that.
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 30, 2005 02:13 pm
Re: # 388congratulations on the 40th birthday. let me ask you a question. is there any reason to believe that indian muslims would NOT elect a minority leader were they the majority? if you can provide enough evidence to show why an honest and straightforward leader could not and would not be elected, i will listen. i am pretty sure historically that muslim governments have always facilitated the rise of non muslims in the higher ranks of government. for some odd reason, this trend has found a reversal as of the modern period. islamic spain is a good example. as for having a non-muslim rule a muslim land, i am not sure that is even allowed in islam. it complicates the enforcement of islamic law, which is the basic requirement of a muslim government. though again, i am not sure if there is anything that says that non muslims cannot rule muslim lands. perhaps someone more enlightened here could shed some light on that.
Linking Poverty and Population
i am well aware of the MKI and its capabilities. no doubt its a good fighter. i never denied that. however, i would take american technology any day over russian technology, which has stagnated (no one in their right mind can deny this) in comparison to the US. the F-16s pakistan will get (have no doubt about this. its only a matter of time. all attempts to block it have been effectively countered by the pakistani ambassador and the pakistani caucus on capitol hill. the indian lobby has lost. accept it) will be either the Block 52 plus (C/D), or the newest Block 60 (E/F), which were delivered to and manufactured exclusively for the UAE. there is talk either the saudis or the UAE may help pakistan finance this new beast should the americans be willing to sell it. its a $60 million dollar aircraft. there is still talk that it is possible. the block 60 has an active electronically scanning array (AESA) radar, which means it could detect the MKI even before it got in the air!! the MKI would be toast within seconds, as two AIM missiles come at it at the speed of sound. the F-16 is the original multi role aircraft. its world known to have unbelievable deep penetration capabilities without detection. all pilots who have flown the F-16 have said that they would not fly anything else.
i am aware that the MKI is being manufactured in india. its not a big deal. transfer of technology is common among allies. pakistan manufactures the latest french submarines and a host of other technology. its not new my friend. in the meantime, lose the inferiority complex. i know musharraf is friendly towards the indians. theres a reason he`s so well respected everywhere in the world. however, indians seem hell bent on turning his hospitality into renewed hostility. so spare me the lecture. i will be polite when indians learn to behave.
Posted by
taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 30, 2005 02:03 pm
Re: # 27i am well aware of the MKI and its capabilities. no doubt its a good fighter. i never denied that. however, i would take american technology any day over russian technology, which has stagnated (no one in their right mind can deny this) in comparison to the US. the F-16s pakistan will get (have no doubt about this. its only a matter of time. all attempts to block it have been effectively countered by the pakistani ambassador and the pakistani caucus on capitol hill. the indian lobby has lost. accept it) will be either the Block 52 plus (C/D), or the newest Block 60 (E/F), which were delivered to and manufactured exclusively for the UAE. there is talk either the saudis or the UAE may help pakistan finance this new beast should the americans be willing to sell it. its a $60 million dollar aircraft. there is still talk that it is possible. the block 60 has an active electronically scanning array (AESA) radar, which means it could detect the MKI even before it got in the air!! the MKI would be toast within seconds, as two AIM missiles come at it at the speed of sound. the F-16 is the original multi role aircraft. its world known to have unbelievable deep penetration capabilities without detection. all pilots who have flown the F-16 have said that they would not fly anything else.
i am aware that the MKI is being manufactured in india. its not a big deal. transfer of technology is common among allies. pakistan manufactures the latest french submarines and a host of other technology. its not new my friend. in the meantime, lose the inferiority complex. i know musharraf is friendly towards the indians. theres a reason he`s so well respected everywhere in the world. however, indians seem hell bent on turning his hospitality into renewed hostility. so spare me the lecture. i will be polite when indians learn to behave.
Soapbox Sania
you`re totally correct. though, you would probably have to tell that to him several times slowly before he actually understood it....
Posted by
taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 29, 2005 11:45 pm
Re: # 371you`re totally correct. though, you would probably have to tell that to him several times slowly before he actually understood it....
Linking Poverty and Population
learn to make sense. not sure what the hell you were talking about. how are kashmir and gwadar related?
Re: # 23
trust me, its a lot hotter in india than it is in pakistan. pakistanis dont chicken out in the face of heat. and there will no longer be power outages, as its been solved since the major electrical company has been privatized to a wealthy saudi business group. good luck to your people keeping cool in the hellish heat of mumbai.
#21
so be it. just cause the US wants india to become a regional superpower, is by no means a guarantee india wil become that superpower. yes, india has a large enough economy to be a global force. however, if india or indians think they can dominate pakistan, they`ve got other things coming. china will never allow india to become a force other than what it sees fit for india. india will always just be a second fiddle to china. pakistans geostrategic importance is not about economic power. however, that day too will come. for the time being, pakistan occupied a most key area of the world. the US wants to maintain healthy relationships with both, as they cannot ignore either one now, for different reasons albeit. as i said, pakistan can become an energy corridor from iran and the CAR`s. pakistan has cemented its relations with those countries, so you can expect major dividends from that relationship, as there is massive oil and gas there. cayenne still believe iran is india`s best friend, even though khatami and the iranian foreign minister have all said that pakistans and iran`s relationship goes back a long way. iran has every interest to see a stable pakistan, just as pakistan has every interest to use iran for its future energy needs, which are going to rise exponentially as the economy sky rockets, which is already underway. the iran-india-pakistan relationship is not a zero sum game, as some indians would want it to be. for some stupid reasons indians believe iran is going to be friends with india at the expense of pakistan. it defies all logic.
#20
first of all, the SU-30 is NOT the most advanced fighter in the world. its a $30 million dollar aircraft. the F-22 is a $120 million dollar aircraft. pakistans newest falcons are all going to be $40 million each. so please dont make stupid indian statements like that again. the F-22 raptor would eat your pilots and the plane up for lunch. the Sukhoi couldnt even hang with an F-15C. the indian air force had to beg the americans not to use their AWACS against them in the last cope india. the F-15 is a much less capable fighter than the raptor. no aircraft, except the raptor for the most part, is unbeatable. remember that. pakistans upcoming F-16s are big trouble for the Sukhois, which is why your PM had to bitc# to george bush and richard armitage, who all told him to `shut the hell up!` haha. as for india having the 6th largest air force, so be it. this might be true. unfortunately, you guys seem intent on having your flying coffins drop like bird shit all over india. perhaps before you brag about something like that you should give your pilots some time to actually learn how to fly!!
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 29, 2005 09:55 pm
# 24learn to make sense. not sure what the hell you were talking about. how are kashmir and gwadar related?
Re: # 23
trust me, its a lot hotter in india than it is in pakistan. pakistanis dont chicken out in the face of heat. and there will no longer be power outages, as its been solved since the major electrical company has been privatized to a wealthy saudi business group. good luck to your people keeping cool in the hellish heat of mumbai.
#21
so be it. just cause the US wants india to become a regional superpower, is by no means a guarantee india wil become that superpower. yes, india has a large enough economy to be a global force. however, if india or indians think they can dominate pakistan, they`ve got other things coming. china will never allow india to become a force other than what it sees fit for india. india will always just be a second fiddle to china. pakistans geostrategic importance is not about economic power. however, that day too will come. for the time being, pakistan occupied a most key area of the world. the US wants to maintain healthy relationships with both, as they cannot ignore either one now, for different reasons albeit. as i said, pakistan can become an energy corridor from iran and the CAR`s. pakistan has cemented its relations with those countries, so you can expect major dividends from that relationship, as there is massive oil and gas there. cayenne still believe iran is india`s best friend, even though khatami and the iranian foreign minister have all said that pakistans and iran`s relationship goes back a long way. iran has every interest to see a stable pakistan, just as pakistan has every interest to use iran for its future energy needs, which are going to rise exponentially as the economy sky rockets, which is already underway. the iran-india-pakistan relationship is not a zero sum game, as some indians would want it to be. for some stupid reasons indians believe iran is going to be friends with india at the expense of pakistan. it defies all logic.
#20
first of all, the SU-30 is NOT the most advanced fighter in the world. its a $30 million dollar aircraft. the F-22 is a $120 million dollar aircraft. pakistans newest falcons are all going to be $40 million each. so please dont make stupid indian statements like that again. the F-22 raptor would eat your pilots and the plane up for lunch. the Sukhoi couldnt even hang with an F-15C. the indian air force had to beg the americans not to use their AWACS against them in the last cope india. the F-15 is a much less capable fighter than the raptor. no aircraft, except the raptor for the most part, is unbeatable. remember that. pakistans upcoming F-16s are big trouble for the Sukhois, which is why your PM had to bitc# to george bush and richard armitage, who all told him to `shut the hell up!` haha. as for india having the 6th largest air force, so be it. this might be true. unfortunately, you guys seem intent on having your flying coffins drop like bird shit all over india. perhaps before you brag about something like that you should give your pilots some time to actually learn how to fly!!
Linking Poverty and Population
perhaps you should have read my post a bit more carefully. i didnt say pakistan and iran will forge close ties. pakistan and iran have a good understanding with each other. if you indians think you have iran on `your side` your delusional. iran has a good understanding with india, but despite indian propaganda its clear that its not at the expense of pakistan. what i stated was that pakistans geostrategic importance far outweighs that of india`s, and that in the future will be the key to pakistans economic growth. no country can ignore pakistan. anyone aware of geopolitics will be aware of this. with this in mind, pakistan can be of help to iran and iran can help pakistan with future energy needs, which the two countries are already in the process of working out. i believe iran even stated that should india not want to join the gas pipeline can commence without it. thats not what i call deep ties. however, for any of the pipelines to be successful, pakistan MUST be involved. dont think musharraf and the rest of our policymakers dont understand this. the central asian republics will become energy corridors in the future, as because they are landlocked they will need to transport and receive energy through other countries. enter gwadar port. as i said, this is a standing challenge of mine, that gwadar will become south asia` s most prosperous and advanced city within 20 years. its inevitable. it will become a dubai for pakistan. theres no doubt in anyones mind of this. and china will continue to have stakes in pakistans economic success. the chinese are willing to do just about anything to ensure pakistan becomes economically successful. in addition, pakistan will continue to benefit from the chinese arms industry, something india cannot think of for the foreseable future. pakistan will be getting armed with JF-17s, and in the future with the advanced J-10 (which the US navy itself has said could be serious trouble for the F-18 super hornet). india will be left with a struggling russian industry to rely on. the americans will want a piece of the pie, but india has historically been short sighted to let the americans sell them weapons. an economically prosperous and well armed pakistan is always going to be a thorn in the side of india should kashmir not be resolved. trust me, disputes do not take precedence over economics. the world community can step in at any time and force india to the table. they dont care all that much for your market. no one wants to see 1/5 of humanity go up in smoke. and thats exactly where india is headed should it continue to sit on its ass.
Posted by
taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 28, 2005 02:48 pm
Re: # 17perhaps you should have read my post a bit more carefully. i didnt say pakistan and iran will forge close ties. pakistan and iran have a good understanding with each other. if you indians think you have iran on `your side` your delusional. iran has a good understanding with india, but despite indian propaganda its clear that its not at the expense of pakistan. what i stated was that pakistans geostrategic importance far outweighs that of india`s, and that in the future will be the key to pakistans economic growth. no country can ignore pakistan. anyone aware of geopolitics will be aware of this. with this in mind, pakistan can be of help to iran and iran can help pakistan with future energy needs, which the two countries are already in the process of working out. i believe iran even stated that should india not want to join the gas pipeline can commence without it. thats not what i call deep ties. however, for any of the pipelines to be successful, pakistan MUST be involved. dont think musharraf and the rest of our policymakers dont understand this. the central asian republics will become energy corridors in the future, as because they are landlocked they will need to transport and receive energy through other countries. enter gwadar port. as i said, this is a standing challenge of mine, that gwadar will become south asia` s most prosperous and advanced city within 20 years. its inevitable. it will become a dubai for pakistan. theres no doubt in anyones mind of this. and china will continue to have stakes in pakistans economic success. the chinese are willing to do just about anything to ensure pakistan becomes economically successful. in addition, pakistan will continue to benefit from the chinese arms industry, something india cannot think of for the foreseable future. pakistan will be getting armed with JF-17s, and in the future with the advanced J-10 (which the US navy itself has said could be serious trouble for the F-18 super hornet). india will be left with a struggling russian industry to rely on. the americans will want a piece of the pie, but india has historically been short sighted to let the americans sell them weapons. an economically prosperous and well armed pakistan is always going to be a thorn in the side of india should kashmir not be resolved. trust me, disputes do not take precedence over economics. the world community can step in at any time and force india to the table. they dont care all that much for your market. no one wants to see 1/5 of humanity go up in smoke. and thats exactly where india is headed should it continue to sit on its ass.
Linking Poverty and Population
ummmm...not really. i`m a realist. yes, india is a bigger economy. but pakistan too has extreme significance in the area, and it can be an equal to india in the not too distant future. dont expect pakistan to accept second fiddle to india. pakistans geostrategic importance far outstrips that of india`s. its in a much more important position, being next to oil rich iran and afghanistan. never forget that. pakistan doesnt need india anymore than india needs pakistan. india is not some developed country yet my friend. since you guys love comparing yourself, compare yourselves to china. that ought to put things into perspective. having 1 billion people tends to naturally magnify economic success, since even minimal economic growth will be multiplied significantly. look at china`s economy then look at india`s. both are the same population. pakistans economic cooperation with india is a far off thing. until india can behave itself and act like the `superpower` it is so destined to become and start following UN resolutions and solve kashmir, there is little chance pakistan will `forge` anything with india. our policymakers have china to rely on, and gwadar port (which will be the most advanced city in south asia in 20 years. this is a standing challenge of mine) is ample proof of this. india will never catch up with china. it will always be the most dominant economy in the area, and pakistan will always benefit from it.
Posted by
taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 27, 2005 10:59 pm
Re: # 10ummmm...not really. i`m a realist. yes, india is a bigger economy. but pakistan too has extreme significance in the area, and it can be an equal to india in the not too distant future. dont expect pakistan to accept second fiddle to india. pakistans geostrategic importance far outstrips that of india`s. its in a much more important position, being next to oil rich iran and afghanistan. never forget that. pakistan doesnt need india anymore than india needs pakistan. india is not some developed country yet my friend. since you guys love comparing yourself, compare yourselves to china. that ought to put things into perspective. having 1 billion people tends to naturally magnify economic success, since even minimal economic growth will be multiplied significantly. look at china`s economy then look at india`s. both are the same population. pakistans economic cooperation with india is a far off thing. until india can behave itself and act like the `superpower` it is so destined to become and start following UN resolutions and solve kashmir, there is little chance pakistan will `forge` anything with india. our policymakers have china to rely on, and gwadar port (which will be the most advanced city in south asia in 20 years. this is a standing challenge of mine) is ample proof of this. india will never catch up with china. it will always be the most dominant economy in the area, and pakistan will always benefit from it.
Linking Poverty and Population
thats because india has been growing rapidly now for well over a decade, while the 90`s was essentially a lost decase economically for pakistan. however, pakistan is now well on its way to playing catch up. in fact, it will be interesting to see whether india will be able to sustain its growth rates, which it must do since even 24% (as you claim) of the indian population comes to a huge number, as there are now 1 billion indians. you can do the math yourself. pakistans poverty rates will come down very quickly over the next few years. the musharraf government has begun tackling the problem very innovatively. its not a matter of if, but just when.
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 26, 2005 10:27 pm
Re: # 6thats because india has been growing rapidly now for well over a decade, while the 90`s was essentially a lost decase economically for pakistan. however, pakistan is now well on its way to playing catch up. in fact, it will be interesting to see whether india will be able to sustain its growth rates, which it must do since even 24% (as you claim) of the indian population comes to a huge number, as there are now 1 billion indians. you can do the math yourself. pakistans poverty rates will come down very quickly over the next few years. the musharraf government has begun tackling the problem very innovatively. its not a matter of if, but just when.
Gen. Musharraf Visits Delhi
i can safely say after reading your post that ayaz amir`s IQ is probably double what yours is. he`s one of pakistans premier writers. belittling him just shows the indian character.
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 23, 2005 10:24 pm
Re: # 13i can safely say after reading your post that ayaz amir`s IQ is probably double what yours is. he`s one of pakistans premier writers. belittling him just shows the indian character.
Gen. Musharraf Visits Delhi
instead of believing what your fundoo press is telling you, bring me some partial proof that the US is `putting a gun` to pakistans head to make peace with india. if you cant, refrain from making typical indian inferiority complex statements like that. pakistan has never taken pressure from the US over kashmir. never. it has only done what it feels has been in the interests of the kashmiris and the interests of pakistan. and if there is pressure on pakistan, i can assure you there is pressure on india as well. india is not some mighty power. sorry to break that to you. we`re both third world countries with millions of poor. if the need arises though, the US state department could very easily stick a rod up your PM`s ass. i hear he`s into that. :) if you want pakistan and the kashmiris to think your establishment is sinceres, stop proliferating terror in the valley and killing innocent kashmiris. reduce the number of your army men in the valley. theres no need for half a million troops to battle a few thousand freedom fighters. last but not least, tell your army men to stop having sex with one another. hahahaaa...
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_002326.shtml
More soldiers killed by AIDS than bullets: general
Defence authorities sounded a health alert on Friday with scores of soldiers engaged in anti-insurgency operations in the country`s troubled northeast struck by HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
``The time has come to wake up with HIV infection among our troops assuming serious dimensions. Now we find more soldiers dying to HIV-AIDS than to bullets fired by militants,`` Lieutenant General Bhopinder Singh, Director General of Assam Rifles, said in Shillong.
``We have a challenge at hand and we need to tackle it sensitively,`` he told AFP at the force headquarters.
The Assam Rifles is a premier paramilitary force of 55,000 troops deployed in the rugged jungles of the northeast against some 30 guerrilla groups waging insurgencies for independent homelands or greater autonomy.
The first HIV-positive Assam Rifles soldier was detected in 1992. Since then, 32 Assam Rifles soldiers have died of AIDS and 180 more are in serious condition at two treatment camps in the region.
After random blood screening, Assam Rifles doctors sounded the alert saying the number of soldiers infected with HIV was alarming.
Doctors with army and other paramilitary and police units in the northeast also say they are concerned but have not carried out the random blood screening that has revealed the extent of the spread of HIV among the Assam Rifles.
While the percentage of soldiers suffering from HIV-AIDS is in line with the less than half a percent of India`s total population, experts say soldiers deployed in the region are still ignorant about how the illness spreads.
``We find awareness levels about how HIV spreads very low among soldiers,`` said S I Ahmed, an AIDS specialist from Assam`s main city of Guwahati.
The Assam Rifles held a day-long HIV-AIDS awareness campaign Friday in Shillong with a host of celebrities, including actor Shilpa Shetty and former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Farooq Abdullah, taking part.
As part of the drive, Assam Rifles soldiers were being given free condoms.
One paramilitary soldier, who asked not to be named, said he was devastated when doctors told him last weekend that he had tested HIV-positive. ``I was traumatised,`` he said.
Promiscuity explains the spread of HIV. ``We`re invariably stressed out and monotony sets in working in isolated and hostile terrain for a long period,`` the soldier said.
``So the easy way to relax is to go for casual sex. And I also did that without really knowing the consequences.``
``In most cases we have found the soldiers mingling with the locals and then going for unprotected sex to fight stress and fatigue,`` one Assam Rifles doctor said.
``Life away from families for a longer duration is one of the reasons.``
The Centre on Wednesday strongly disputed claims by an international anti-AIDS group that India has outstripped South Africa as the country with the highest tally of people living with HIV-AIDS.
Officially South Africa has 5.3 million infected people and India 5.1 million.
However, the executive director of the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, Richard Feachem, said the official statistics were wrong and INDIA HAD OVERTAKEN SOUTH AFRICA. (good luck with that!!)
The northeast has been declared as one of the country`s high-risk zones with close to 100,000 people infected with HIV.
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 23, 2005 06:05 pm
Re: # 10instead of believing what your fundoo press is telling you, bring me some partial proof that the US is `putting a gun` to pakistans head to make peace with india. if you cant, refrain from making typical indian inferiority complex statements like that. pakistan has never taken pressure from the US over kashmir. never. it has only done what it feels has been in the interests of the kashmiris and the interests of pakistan. and if there is pressure on pakistan, i can assure you there is pressure on india as well. india is not some mighty power. sorry to break that to you. we`re both third world countries with millions of poor. if the need arises though, the US state department could very easily stick a rod up your PM`s ass. i hear he`s into that. :) if you want pakistan and the kashmiris to think your establishment is sinceres, stop proliferating terror in the valley and killing innocent kashmiris. reduce the number of your army men in the valley. theres no need for half a million troops to battle a few thousand freedom fighters. last but not least, tell your army men to stop having sex with one another. hahahaaa...
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_002326.shtml
More soldiers killed by AIDS than bullets: general
Defence authorities sounded a health alert on Friday with scores of soldiers engaged in anti-insurgency operations in the country`s troubled northeast struck by HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
``The time has come to wake up with HIV infection among our troops assuming serious dimensions. Now we find more soldiers dying to HIV-AIDS than to bullets fired by militants,`` Lieutenant General Bhopinder Singh, Director General of Assam Rifles, said in Shillong.
``We have a challenge at hand and we need to tackle it sensitively,`` he told AFP at the force headquarters.
The Assam Rifles is a premier paramilitary force of 55,000 troops deployed in the rugged jungles of the northeast against some 30 guerrilla groups waging insurgencies for independent homelands or greater autonomy.
The first HIV-positive Assam Rifles soldier was detected in 1992. Since then, 32 Assam Rifles soldiers have died of AIDS and 180 more are in serious condition at two treatment camps in the region.
After random blood screening, Assam Rifles doctors sounded the alert saying the number of soldiers infected with HIV was alarming.
Doctors with army and other paramilitary and police units in the northeast also say they are concerned but have not carried out the random blood screening that has revealed the extent of the spread of HIV among the Assam Rifles.
While the percentage of soldiers suffering from HIV-AIDS is in line with the less than half a percent of India`s total population, experts say soldiers deployed in the region are still ignorant about how the illness spreads.
``We find awareness levels about how HIV spreads very low among soldiers,`` said S I Ahmed, an AIDS specialist from Assam`s main city of Guwahati.
The Assam Rifles held a day-long HIV-AIDS awareness campaign Friday in Shillong with a host of celebrities, including actor Shilpa Shetty and former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Farooq Abdullah, taking part.
As part of the drive, Assam Rifles soldiers were being given free condoms.
One paramilitary soldier, who asked not to be named, said he was devastated when doctors told him last weekend that he had tested HIV-positive. ``I was traumatised,`` he said.
Promiscuity explains the spread of HIV. ``We`re invariably stressed out and monotony sets in working in isolated and hostile terrain for a long period,`` the soldier said.
``So the easy way to relax is to go for casual sex. And I also did that without really knowing the consequences.``
``In most cases we have found the soldiers mingling with the locals and then going for unprotected sex to fight stress and fatigue,`` one Assam Rifles doctor said.
``Life away from families for a longer duration is one of the reasons.``
The Centre on Wednesday strongly disputed claims by an international anti-AIDS group that India has outstripped South Africa as the country with the highest tally of people living with HIV-AIDS.
Officially South Africa has 5.3 million infected people and India 5.1 million.
However, the executive director of the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, Richard Feachem, said the official statistics were wrong and INDIA HAD OVERTAKEN SOUTH AFRICA. (good luck with that!!)
The northeast has been declared as one of the country`s high-risk zones with close to 100,000 people infected with HIV.
Gen. Musharraf Visits Delhi
i cant believe your back for another round of my favorite game, `kick the crap out of arjun!` hahahaa. you need 10 cc`s of protein urgently in your body!! keep believing that pakistan will back off its stance under `US pressure.` you`re so deluded its hilarious really. india must resolve the problem of kashmir. not doing so will just be inviting more ass kicking. no indian would want for your army nigger`s to start falling like flies to mujahideen!
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taqat-e-parvaaz
Apr 23, 2005 04:11 pm
Re: # 7i cant believe your back for another round of my favorite game, `kick the crap out of arjun!` hahahaa. you need 10 cc`s of protein urgently in your body!! keep believing that pakistan will back off its stance under `US pressure.` you`re so deluded its hilarious really. india must resolve the problem of kashmir. not doing so will just be inviting more ass kicking. no indian would want for your army nigger`s to start falling like flies to mujahideen!
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