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6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 8, 2007 07:51 pm
"#32 Posted by dost_mittar on December 8, 2007 2:53:28 am
You are so right, Mr. Qasmi. 6th December is one of the saddest days in independent India's history. Not only because a mosque was razed, but also because it was razed in full glare of official machinery, including police, looking on. "

No it wasn't. The saddest day was when the so called protectors of the people implicitly or explicitly participated in killing innocent people, raping women and butchering pregnant women. That happened a decade later.
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 8, 2007 07:30 pm
#49, Anil, my stand on Ram Setu is that it should be demolished if it's coming in way on economic development.
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 8, 2007 07:27 pm
"Many other Turks, watched this scene with horror, and kept exclaiming "Jami, Jami" - "Mosque, Mosque" with shock and disgust."

What did these guys say when bamian was pulled down? Did they express similar disgust? And do you know how the history is portrayed in Turkey? Is the time of Turkic adventurism revealed for what it was- a mongol like invasion- or is that depicted as a proud moment for the Turkic tribes?
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 8, 2007 01:21 pm
#40,

"Another truth is the struggle for righting the wrong continues."

So you agree Hindu's can't be exception to that! We can't be devoid of same feelings as other communities. At least grant us that much.
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 8, 2007 01:14 pm
Jinna Bhai had nothing to do with Babri Masjid. If anything congressi minority appeasement policy can be directly tied to it.

Anil, are you saying that if the Babri Masjid was not demolished every thing was hokey-dory between Hindus and Muslims?
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 8, 2007 07:05 am
"real question is 'Prove that the Babri masjid was built on the temple built on the birth-place of Ram".


No the real question is Prove that the Babri masjid was built on the temple, period.
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 8, 2007 05:56 am
Dost sahib, if you expect us to forgive and forget then that ain’t happening. Muslims would do the same if this happens to Mecca. Christians would also behave similarly if it happens to Rome. Jews, surprisingly didn't do it for their holey shrine may be because they survive n Christian backing and they don't want to antagonize their Muslims further. It really doesn't matter how would others behave. These are our places of worship and we have right to reclaim them back.
I'm not asking for treating Muslims as second class citizens for the Historic wrongs of their assumed forefather (for majority of Indian Muslims are decedents of native population and had nothing to do with invaders). The demand is to reclaim what is rightfully ours. Bamian Buddha statue were not built on earlier razed places of warship. So the comparison is idiotic. I'm not in favor of destruction of any monument per say. I would have favored the relocating the masjid somewhere.
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 7, 2007 12:29 pm
"Some other sites subject to right-wing Hindu revisionist thinking - Badshahi Mosque, Lahore, BaRa and Chota ImambaRas, Lucknow, Jama Masjid, Delhi and don't forget Faisal Mosque in Islamabad. "

As far as I know the demand is for three, Kashi, Mathura and ayodhya.
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 7, 2007 06:49 am
"#5 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 6, 2007 1:17:59 pm Cobray,
Your logic and certainty are both dismal. What proof is there that the Babri Masjid was built by Muslims after they razed the Ram Temple in Ayodhya?

Using your logic, we may need to demolish most of the churches in Rome. These were built on the ruins of Roman temples, even some material from the Coliseum."

Sure, but the defenders of Roman faith didn't servive beyond Constantine. However, Hindus did survive, thrive and are a major force in India.

Tell me something if non-Muslims destroyed Mecca Kabah and Medina. Would you be just as charitable and call history a history or would you try to reclaim the holy places?
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 7, 2007 05:50 am
"#10 Posted by ISlamIslam"

I don't know what are you on but for your information India is officially secular country. Whether that gets practiced is a different issue. Ideally, that's how every state should be. Equal protection to all it's citizens. And freedom to practice their religion (within the bounds of the law of the land). The fact that various governments at the state level and at the center, at worst- sided with Hindus and at best remained silent spectators is a shame.

Agree with destruction though.
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 6, 2007 11:48 am
In fact, there is another masjid built on the distruction of Kashi Vishwanath temple. I'm in favor of destroying that masjid as well.
6th December 1992
Posted by Cobra Dec 6, 2007 10:50 am
I concede that Government should not take sides in communal issues and provide equal protection to all it's citizen. It's a shame on us for not protecting minorities during Gujrat carnage and Mumbai riots and for electing Modi again to the power.
At the same time I support demolition of Babri Masjid. This masjid was built on razed temple. Muslims had no business doing that.
Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism
Posted by Cobra Dec 6, 2007 09:23 am
Dalitistan, makes a lot of unprovable claims. I would not rely on what's produced there.
Pakistani Judges - Read This Lawyer’s Oath
Posted by Cobra Nov 21, 2007 09:25 am
" #50 Posted by krashid1961 on November 21, 2007 8:46:44 am
Two nation theory meant Muslims and Hindus are two seperate nation, people , culture etc, so Muslims needed a seperate country of their own."

You still have leftover Hindus in Pakistan when are you planning to discard them?
An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir
Posted by Cobra Nov 14, 2007 01:09 pm
Zyxis, does the Indian side of your family cheer when Pakistan wins the cricket match?
An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir
Posted by Cobra Nov 14, 2007 10:59 am
GT,

"Dear Hamid,

I am really offended now. And you started it. Muslims all over chowk are now laughing at our gau-mutra consumption and propensity to get married to animals. I can tolerate everything, but if you start making fun of gau-mutra then I have all the right to abuse your family. If you think you are so smart, I dare you to come to India and publicly defame gaus and their mutra. Enough said! I hope chowk is taking notice."

I'm offended to. My sensibilities are hurt by those hatefilled comments. May he be born as fron in his next janam.
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