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‘Dustbin of history’ or ‘history of sorts’
Posted by ajeya Oct 10, 2008 03:11 pm
#43 Posted by sharmeenqazi1

Dear sharmeenqazi1,

I am re-posting your post with an added clarification. I hope you will not mind:

Unfortunately it is the approach of many Indians like you--who keep their eyes shut and ears closed to the reality-- and "blind" jingoists like you bring bad name to the country called India. Can you please read the recent history what happened to the sikhs in 1984 (during operation blue star when thousands of them were butchered), demolition of Babri Masjid in 1991, massacre of 2000 Muslims in Gujarat riots, killings of Christians and burning their places of worship in Kerela, MP, Karnataka and Orissa--Please read and keep your eyes wide open, not wide shut...Yes, a word about Kashmir--One day, sooner or later, the Kashmiri Muslims will gain independence from the clutches of both India and Pakistan, the way undivided India gained from the mighty British Empire. It is only a matter of time...dear jingoist, the size of the dog in the fight doesn't matter, what matters is the size of the fight in the dog---India may have more bullets than the number of Muslim Kashmiris but bullets can't win over the hearts and minds--If Muslim Kashmiri armed fighters are "Terrorists", then you may be holding same views about the great Bhagat Singh, Chander Shekhar Azad and the like-- The right for self-determination, under the UN charter, is a legal right as well as the birth right, and like Indians, Muslim Kashmiris do have this right too-all the best
‘Dustbin of history’ or ‘history of sorts’
Posted by ajeya Oct 10, 2008 12:37 pm
#51 Posted by hamidm2

[... which part of the jan 25, 1949 united nations resolution don't you understand :]

The part which has to do with Pakiland breaking the ORIGINAL agreement that it signed with India and the British Govt, and illegally occupying POK.

(I don't think you'll have a comeback to this. Muslims always lose their arguments because they are always defending the indefensible)


[...... why do you guys want to hang on to a people against their will - it is not nice ]

We don't. They can start walking towards Mecca right now. Kashmir has historically been a seat of Hindu culture and civilization. If every time Muslims become a majority in an area they want to secede on the basis of religion, then they are no different than gangrene - Hindus should kick them out from all parts of India - they could become the majority somewhere else in India and try to secede that part of the country, and so on. So then would it not be fair on the part of Hindus to kick them out? Even without their terrorism and rioting?

Here's a guess - you won't have any answer to this one either.

‘Dustbin of history’ or ‘history of sorts’
Posted by ajeya Oct 7, 2008 01:53 pm
#24 Posted by dost_mittar

[But I do realise that the majority of Kashmiris feel that they belong more in Pakistan than in India and, so, I favour Kashmir's accession to Pakistan.]

Miami is now overwhelmingly Cuban. If the Cubans in Miami wanted Miami to join Cuba, would that be okay with you?

Reforming Religious Fundamentalists
Posted by ajeya Oct 5, 2008 07:08 pm
#84 Posted by ana

[Why do Indians go to "Indian" restaurants that are run by "Pakis???"]

I avoid anything that has anything to do with the ummah, unless I absolutely have to. I mean, why enrich the enemy. In this instance, I was fooled by the Indian restaurant sign. And it was too late (and too late in the evening) to back out and go to some other Indian restaurant.

Reforming Religious Fundamentalists
Posted by ajeya Oct 5, 2008 07:01 pm
laddu,

You are spot on about this "trying to feed beef to hindus" business. As I have mentioned on Chowk before, a colleague's wife once tried to feed my parents beef after inviting us to dinner, without telling us. She was from India and knew we are Brahmins, and knew exactly what she was doing. Later on, I found out that she was the more religious of the two and highly communal. Also, early in my career, once I was chatting with a Muslim acquaintance who was from UP - he was gleefully recounting how Indian Hindus will eat beef, "but we Muslims will never touch pork - hee hee hee..". This was long before I ever used to even think about these Hindu-Muslim issues. Like most Hindus, we never talked about Muslim-related issues in our family, at work, or with our friends. But looking back, I remember that almost ALL the Muslims I have come across in my life were walking around with big chips on their shoulders.

Of course there are lots of liberal Muslims - but they are the exception, and don't count anyway - it's the masses that affect politics and everything else.

Reforming Religious Fundamentalists
Posted by ajeya Oct 4, 2008 07:15 pm
#67 Posted by hamidm2

[sometimes i feel like correcting her and telling her that it was morarji desai and not gandhi, but then she might think i am an indian and that would be a fate worse than death ........ so, i just tell her i am a paki and that 'we' are not like those weird people on the wrong side of the border .......]

That's right, that's a clever strategy. Pakis are looked up up to around the globe, especially in the West. Especially during the body cavity searches. Americans do look up to Arabs and Pakis - popularly known as "sand niggers" and "diaper heads" respectively. A clever strategy only a Paki can think up.

Actually I wanted to ask some Paki - why is it that Pakis call their restaurants Indian restaurants? And Indians always want to disassociate themselves from any and all things Paki?

The other day I went to a Paki restaurant and ordered some takeout. For the veg dish they handed me what looked like some sort of meat keema with faint traces of greenish vegetables floating around - eeew!! (which I threw away the minute I got out of the store). Do you guys also brush your teeth with meat keema? Ugh! What a wretched existence!

Reforming Religious Fundamentalists
Posted by ajeya Oct 4, 2008 06:52 pm
#65 Posted by _arjun28

[Surely you're not implying that he's wrong when he blames an old fart......]

By the way, how's your father doing? Is that old fart still kicking around?

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us!
Posted by ajeya Sep 25, 2008 11:25 am
#200 Posted by Salim_Chauhan

[As for #1, Pakistan did take the high road and agreed to the UN Security Council's resolution for conducting a plebiscite.]

Wasn't that AFTER taking the low road of illegally occupying POK, in direct contravention of the agreement that they had signed on to just a second before?

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us!
Posted by ajeya Sep 25, 2008 10:59 am
#207 Posted by Salim_Chauhan

[Arjun #204,

For an Indian, you are using far too many percentages in your posts.]

For a brain-dead paki, that's an interesting post. Considering the fact that it was Indians who invented the decimal numbering system.

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by ajeya Sep 25, 2008 10:54 am
#264 Posted by Naqshbandi

[..even if it means we lose! even if we lose, we still win. because on THAT day when He judges us - glorious is He--the single utterance of the kalimah will be enough for salvation and shaykh kabbani said that on that day a person who has said salawat on the Prophet even once ("Allahuma salli ala sayyidina Muhammad wa ala aalihi wa sallim")]

Allahuma hoom hum hoom hoom hummmmmmmmmm.............

Illi ulla illi illi gilli gilli........

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by ajeya Sep 25, 2008 10:46 am
Further to 266

And is that why Ghori lost and was thrown into prison by the scruff of his neck, and was only able to backstab (As is the true Muslim tradition) after he was mercifully pardoned and let go?

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by ajeya Sep 25, 2008 10:44 am
#263 Posted by Naqshbandi

[just accept it. we are your natural masters. ]

Is that why you guys bent over for us in 1971, and in every single war between India and Pakiland?

: D
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by ajeya Sep 25, 2008 10:07 am
#259 Posted by hamidm2

[... it doesn't matter ..... meat eaters will always triumph over bhaji eaters because they are at the top of the food chain .....]

That's not what I remember from 1971. Even the malnourished Bangladeshis kicked soem Paki butt if I remember correctly.

[.... also people from the north always win - ]

Well then prepare to join the harem of some Afghanistani talibani leader with bad breath and a taste for little boys.

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by ajeya Sep 24, 2008 04:05 pm
#248 Posted by hamidm2

[.... so now that we have tried everything else in this war in fata, i am sure that if we started a war - even a small one - against india ....]

Hamid mere bhai,

That will a BIG mistake for Pakiland. See, as far as India is concerned, Pakiland is nothing but a minor nuisance. The mood in India is pretty bad nowadays after the bombings - "saccular" Lalu is nowhere to be seen on TV - people remember how he celebrated after the UPA govt. got SIMI un-banned. Any stupidity like an attack from Pakiland will force the UPA govt to do what will guarantee them re-election - launch an attack on Pakiland and wipe them out. Won't be a bad thing either. Liberate Baluchistan (where Hindus apparently live "under the protection" of some barbaric tribe or another) and Sindh, take away POK which is rightfully ours, and kick some Paki a$$ in the bargain. And this time, there will be no one helping the Paki army. The Americans will actually join in the fun, with the Indians.

Be careful what you wish for.

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by ajeya Sep 23, 2008 09:53 pm
#237 Posted by masadi

[Further, how would you know what we "fools" do, have you ever walked in our feet.]

The same way you know what other "fools" do.

How's that for an answer? Eh? Mega-brain?



Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by ajeya Sep 23, 2008 09:46 pm
#236 Posted by hamidm2

[...... democracy is a good think but i would rather have deodrant and indoor toilets]


That is a good thing, hamid babu, especially considering the fact that as a muslim, you don't have much of a choice.

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