Shoaib Malik at the cross-roads Language below is unacceptable, and should not be allowed.

Shoaib Malik at the cross-roads well the problems with the board are very much what the country is going through if one starts extrapolating. there is no accountability at the management and selection level. few players are picked on merit; decisions are made on an ad-hoc basis.

while the team could still win sporadically due to the occasional brilliance of one or two individuals; consistent peformance will only occur when domesticperformers are given their due credit and the coach/captain, and not to forget the pcb itself, learn to work on professional lines.

however, i know, i am asking for too much..

Escalation of Hostilities in Middle East Re: # 32 Arjun ..

You would make a great lawmaker in the US. Hypocrites, racists, and ones with ``savage-mentality`` always tend to do well in the Congress.

Escalation of Hostilities in Middle East Re: # 66 Arjun

Garbage. The only reason Israel destroying the hell out of Lebanon is because of the two kidnapped soldiers. It makes ``Mighty Israel`` mad, how someone kidnapped two of its brilliant soldiers. And in the process they will bomb Lebanon back to Stone Age.

Whats worse, jerks like you actually support that action. No one is saying that Hezbollah is great, but what the Israelis are doing is absolutely unjustified.

Lament of a Disillusioned Citizen Re: # 69

Don`t be an ignorant fool by using the convenient baton of generalization to back your argument. But I guess idiots like you can do no better. I wasn`t talking about world issues, my comments were just about the discussion boards here at chowk. So, I repeat my question, don`t you have anything better to do with your pathetic life?

Lament of a Disillusioned Citizen Re: # 52

BJK, I feel I know you. Are you not one of those pathetic indians that go from site to site and forum to forum to bash Pakistan or Pakistanis?? Yeah i think i guessed it right, your one of those pathetic, lifeless and misrebale individuals who have still come to terms with the India/Pakistan divide 59 yrs ago. Or maybe it is the fact that Ur Mahatmi Gandhi was considered toothless and a liar by some of your own people?? Or could it be that another one of your leaders Mr. Nehru had intimate relations with Lord Mountbatten. I`m not sure what it is, bu the frustrations truly run deep!

It eats you from within and I truly hope someday it drives you insane. There are quite a few of you here on Chowk who will poison every sensible discussion. I would never care to reply to jerks like you, but I felt enough was enough and I had to do just this one time!

Pakistan\'s \'Incomplete\' Democratic Experiment What a shame that every chowk discussion gets so personal instead of sticking to the topic. All members who can do no better then bashing every article at Chowk.com should be banned indefinitely.

Karachi Back in Business Thanks Ras.

I too hope that the test and the ODI against India go as well, or even better, than the one against England.

The Genius of a Giant havent been here for a bit, but very well said rajiv

Which Road will the Pope Take? mishra: I`d like to know the amusement you recieved from my messages. The issue should always included all the faiths. But people here find it hard to stick to a topic, and you did exactly the same. I said earlier that I was talking about the pope in the ``general context``. I was talking specifically about him and him alone. I would have liked more debate on the original issues (Turkey, Muslim immigration to Europe, his criticism of multi-culturalism in Europe etc.).

Sadly, all those topics have been sidelined by senesless discussion about how the Muslim leaders should act and how Islamic leaders should initiate dialogue etc etc. Only a few hve actually talked about these points. It always ends up being an Indo-Pak, Muslim-Christian, Muslim-Hindu debate, and it doesn`t need to be that way. What a shame.

A.Khan

Which Road will the Pope Take? bbabu: This article was never an attack on anyone, it was just an account of sorts of what he has said in the the past and how he might act. There were no flying allegations or anything of that sorts.

Also, anyone can comment on anyone else irrespective of where he/she is from. Too bad you think otherwise. Every article on this website does not need to be about Islamic extremism etc etc. If you think so, then you are one of the few religious bigots hangin around on this website. In any case, I will stop discussing this matter with you because this discussion is going nowhere.

A. Khan

Which Road will the Pope Take? Raw dust: I said weakness in faith of ``Catholics not Catholicism``. I dont want to get entangled in another sub-issue, but there has been a decline in the number of church-goers in Europe. And pls guyz, I am not generalizing, but that has been the treand in Europe in the last 2-3 decades at least.

Quite a few writers have touched on that, and I have also come across atleast a couple of reports that talk about this subject. That is all i said and meant. As far as the reasons are concerned, i wouldn`t want to delve into them.

Ozer: I agree Turkey is a multi-faceted country. Its inclusion or the lack of it should be based on what it can bring to the table as far as the EU is concerned. Religion should not form the basis of any decision.

Also, every dialogue of such nature should be free of any suspicions/mistrust. I understand that there is a fair amount of history between most of the faiths in the world, but unless we go with a clear mind and an honest intention, any sort of a forward stride is out of question.

Which Road will the Pope Take? bbabu: 1stly mind ur language. We can discuss this issue maturely so please don`t show your calibre by bad-mouthing others. 2ndly, the weakness in faith of Catholics and Christians in general have attributed to the decline. It is a very convenient way to blame it on Muslims. No one has stopped them from going to churches. Besides, the Muslim population in Europe is still very small and not influential at all to cause any such trends. As for Turkey, you answered your own question. It is for the EU to make the decision. The Pope should stay out of it and not make such remarks that might portray a negative image of him in the Muslim world. The EU is a political/economic organization and should not have any thing to do with religion.

mohar: Calm your nerves! Dont get agitated. I was talking JUST about the Pope and how he may or may not react to certain issues. I wasnt talking about the Pope in the ``general context of world politics and the overall global situation at present``. So yes, my article had nothing to do with Islamic extremism. Its a shame that most people find it wfully hard to stick to a topic here at chowk.

feroz: I absolutely think that ALL faiths need to be part of this discussion/dialogue. But since most of the socio-econo-political trends in the world depend on countries that our mainly Christian, Muslim and Jew (I know only Israel is a Jew country but we all know how much influence they have on the whole world, especially on US), I think they have to be the prime ``talkers``. Another thing is that these three religions have alot of ``history`` between them, so a more comprehensive dialogue between them is needed to iron out certain differences that still exist. But yes, other faiths should also be part of a larger interaction.

A. Khan

Parents and the Pill Somehow most discussions at Chowk always turn another way, mostly to cultural/religious bashing and even to even porn (as seen here in a few posts)! I also think we are over-complicating the issue.

Having said that, I also think there was no need to say ``he was really fcuking with me``. Maybe it was really done to get more attention, which it has got! And somehow its just a trend for people to term it as ``freedom of expression`` and say that it is justified. Sure is. But even then there are certain limits of decency which should be maintained.

Otherwise, its a good article and it tackles a very imp. issue in our society. I personally think that in our families, these issues are not brought up as openly as they shd be.

The Call Nicely written

There is always something in an Azan that gives you peace at heart. It calms you down, soothes your nerves.