Will Pakistanis Listen and Act? Re: # 106
Ah! a slave speaks...I do not take seriously when a slave speaks of her/his mentality. You were ruled by Muslims and now by the West, its just that you do not understand, for how can you you are but slaves...it just a matter of time, when Muslims or any one else will start ruling you next, your tone will be same against the West, like at the moment it is against Muslims and Pakistanis, and the wise people of the West will than ignore you just like us!

Will Pakistanis Listen and Act? Re: # 99
It is said if you have nothing good to say better remain silent. Further there are some manners, if you violate, even the right thing said looks unacceptable. The article invited criticism by it very nature. The reason is simple the article is written in a manner as the person is bonafied state policing in0charge. It becomes even more critical (or worse) for it is coming from the person who apparently belongs to a country which itself has huge man slaughtering history. In the recent past, Indian government itself admits killings of over 80,000 kashmiries in violence since last decade or so apart from regular anti-Muslim and irregular Anti-Christians drive in other states.

The media has also created a very negative image about Hindus, and reading CHOWK, it is only being seconded.

I personally think that the writers on CHOWK should become more responsible and chose words carefully, after all that is an important aspect of education to say things carefully.

Even though I am personally against fanatics claiming to be Muslims’ killing innocents, I am proud to be Pakistani origin and on top of it a Muslim. And I feel so happy when I see Muslim girls observing hijab gracefully in the West to highlight their identity and men proudly appearing in Muslim attire. We are not concerned with what world media says about us out of either total ignorance or malign, for whatever they say about sun spreading light, it will remain doing its job as it is destined to do!

Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan? Re: # 50
``To say India needs the help of a foreign power is preposterous. It is always Pakistan that has been been afraid of Indian numerical edge. ``

bbabu fear from the world is not in the dictionary of a true Muslim.

Nevertheless, I may differ on the logics of your reasoning, but I will respect and appreciate your approach in this discussion which has gradually evolved towards fairness especially since the last two interacts. I also sincerely hope you do get more exposure to the facts of this world. I, for instance, have worked with the premier world organizations at a level where the parameters are designed and finalised based on which categorisation of development and welfare of countries are assessed. This world is a big stage show for words and statistics play. Both of these when projected through clever media the masses are moved. Not many escapes the magic webbed by this stage performance. I have seen this from the back of the stage, and I wish for you the same. I am sure you will agree, personal egos or state bigoted ness should not be allowed to take over the truth and justice.

I commented somewhere on Chowk that if India kept on getting their leaders like those of the present times, it has all the potential to assume second largest economy position in next 30 years. But the history and realities of practical life makes it a distant reality, nevertheless it can still perform well and ensure its 250 million people also comes out of poverty line. Another amazing reality is that Pakistan has always come up with surprises. Despite not having India like US and Soviet backing and support in the economic and nuclear fields it has proved to be matching up with India; technical analysis of nuclear testing suggest Pakistan to be more advanced than India. I have a feeling it will remain doing so in future.

My all good wishes and prayers for Pakistan`s prosperity with real (not the media hyped extremist) Islamic values and sincere wishes that the two countries do live peacefully (I hope it does not remain a wishful thinking).

Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan? Re: # 48

``You found it noteworthy to mention Pakistani company wanted to export Suzuki auto parts to Maruti in India. I have a hard time believing that you cannot remember the company name``...

Over here we are talking in all sincerity...not making things up, at least that’s what I am doing, and I hope you are as well. Eventually I did recall the name...I hope you got it in the previous message.

``For the record India has a far more sophisticated auto parts industry than Pakistan``

Till Mid 1990s India had a very closed economy as compared to Pakistan. Pakistani products being exposed to international competition were therefore of high quality and therefore had an edge over Indian products. India manufacturers on the other hand were manufacturing on a large scale and therefore had advantage over cost as compared to Pakistan. It makes sense for a business person to look for products those are of better quality and are cheaper as well, it therefore did made sense for maruti manufacturer to request Indian government to allow them to buy from Pakistan. I think it would have been much wiser if you could have got in touch with Maruti and got this verified. Merely brushing aside other arguments based on personal whims doesn`t make sense, or does it?

``Despite your numerous grievances against India Indian state is a soft state. You want to know countries where might is right. Try North Korea, pre-1990 China, Vietnam, Burma, Iran, Iraq under Saddam, Syria unde late Assad, Sudan, old Soviet Union``

Well bbabu, we sure have different dictionaries that define the term ``soft``....take a look at dec. 2002 times front cover (one of the four), and than explain me what is soft?

Let not expand our discussion to other countries ... nevertheless, I am surprised your mentioning of old soviet...yes you sure can say it now, and I am sure you will say it against USA one day too...not now for now it for you what old soviets were once.

``Try to win a war before you start boasting``
Well India is lucky to have the support of big powers to help it against Pakistan on every occasion. When only once it tried to deal on its own it was losing wasn`t it?

``Do you understand the meaning of freedom ? I have the right to choose my friends. Friendship is a privilege not a right.``

I am surprised still will commend you, the only sentence that does make sense and good one from my standards...so cheers for it is a good one, keep thinking and writing like this and I am sure I will find us on the same path, no need of any more arguments!

``Please spare me this nonsense on behaviour and writing skills. Stick to the facts and arguments. Shall we ?``
Smiles, bbabu, just read your previous and present messages, you will understand why I wrote that message last time

Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan? Re: # 42
So you find it amazing that a person who has attended over 100 workshops participated by on average 30-40 companies, and seminars all around the world since 1987 is unable to recall name of the one participating company back in 1996! ... I knew I am wasting time here...

Your and arjun statements suggest that unlike me, you believe in might is right, that was the reason first you insisted England to be your masters even after 1947 independence of yours and annexed illegally many states even after accepting either them as part of Pakistan or remain independent, under the same master you were able to get into Kashmir. Then you found another master USSR and now USA, so whatever the Master does you find logics to justify it, and blame all on the others like in Taliban case you feel US justified ``had to do it`` but Pakistan all fully sovereign to make decision on its on!. Pakistani Generals on their own entered into only Kargil and your general went on saying that Indian soldiers are being killed like stray dogs, had it not been your master you would have learned lot more lesson.

Come out of this slave mentality if you understand the meaning of freedom and learn to be friends, than slaves...but I know you will never understand for you are not free in mind as yet or in spirit and will keep harping the tune of your masters...Have reverence for Pakistan, for this is the land from which civilization entered into the land you now call India - the name you stole from the motherland Pakistan (India name is associated with Indus Valley; at the time of independence you tricked Jinnah and Mountbatin also mentioned Jinnah was furious...remember India was to be divided into Pakistan and Bharat...look partition time maps). You fall for glitter and not in a habit of doing research to know the truth behind!

Talk on BCCI and the name of the companies of international repute, first take the name of the relatively small company in Pakistan that has been exporting auto-parts to Korea, its Spel group of companies… coming to the next, I will respond when you will learn how to behave and use words while writing.

Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan? #38

``Name the company. You conveniently dodged the question twice. ``

There are many companies manufacturing and exporting auto components including those for Suzuki in Pakistan. The workshop (1996) I referred to was also attended by many companies, and I do not remember names of the companies exporting those components as that was not the primary motive for me as an organizer and a moderator. Nevertheless, the person who revealed this information in the workshop was, to the best of my memory, Almas Haider (I recall his name because we played tennis once together in Lahore in 1986) who also owns one of such manufacturing plants, and has served one term as the President Lahore Chamber of Commerce and Industry (LCCI). I am afraid I do not have his direct numbers any more, but if you are really interested, you should be able to get his contacts through LCCI web site and verify the information I provided.

``It is you who insists on the virtues of Taliban rule in Afghanistan. If they were so good impose on Pakistani public what was imposed in Afghanistan``

OK you request for Iraq like invasion on USA, Australia and India for killing hundreds of thousand of their own people and I will request for Taliban like rule in Pakistan...now this is tit for tat like response and not wish to pursue this sort of discussion, which is not meant for creativeness or knowledge.

Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan? #32

``All of us have biases. But I can correct myself when I am wrong. You are blinded to your distorted version of reality.``

I dont know how you have come to this conclusion...but I find it fruitless to continue with you on this issue...

``Why don`t name this Pakistani company that manufactured Suzuki components and spare us all this crap. If they were so good they would have found other buyer``

Pakistan exported those components to Kporea...it is on record for your information.

``To say Afghanistan`s environment is polluted because of US bombing is laughable. ``

Then keep laughing ... I am disappointed in myself for my earlier estimation of your intelligence.

``Your statement that ``Pakistan managed them pretty well`` reflects your opinion. It pretty much sums your credibility.``

I know its a waste of time...so it over and all from myside...take care and good bye!

Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan?
Re: # 28
``The problem with the some in the biased Pakistani media is that they violate every single facet of journalist ethics. To be fair there is a good share of those in India. The problem is not with American journalists. The real problem in USA is the attention span of the public. Corporate ownership of media is a limited issue. ``

You are in love with your country (and I understand that) so you have to side with them and see Pakistani media through Indian or ``Western`` media eyes.... The issue is that till you get out of that framework, I can’t make you see the realities...

In 1996 American Secretary of commerce and industry addressing a workshop organized by us said, Pakistan’s soil for fruits especially Sahiwal is better than Florida’s country soil...the potential of FDI in the engineering industry is great too...but the problem is media, honestly your government should take CNN and BBC by the horns those have distorted the image. Till it does so, people’s image about Pakistan will not change, and a single person like me who knows the truth can’t do anything...`` (Indian media now has joined the two medias, if not surpassed them). It was the same workshop where we were informed that Indian Suzuki (you call it maruti) wanted to import from Pakistan some Suzuki parts as Pakistani manufactured were of very good quality parts and would have costed them cheaper than importing from Japan or Korea, but Indra Ghandi warned the MD in person that she would rather see the factory closed for which even a nut & bolt is to be imported from Pakistan. You can verify it from your suzuki/maruti owner. With such feelings at the top, Indian media needs to follow the same, and Indian public can never appreciate the other side...I don`t know how much to share with you my experiences...but once you have step out of your shell I know you will be able to find a lot more...

``what environmental degradation ?? ``
I don’t know what to say...it so much of ignorance in this sentence, but I understand again as everyone need not to be aware of every thing. The amount of bombs fired were the highest since the Second World War...more than they fired even in Iraq or else where...

``Your support of the Taliban based on common crime statistics is pathetic. Stalin`s Russia was safe from crime too. The Taliban is largely responsible for ethnic bitterness between Pusthuns and Tajiks, Hazaras etc. May be that is why Pakistanis are so fond of it.``

Ignoring the use of adjective by you here is the fact from my point of view...A generation which is born under the soviets invasion followed by the guerilla war over a period of 22 years, should not be expected to be reasonable like those living in peaceful environment from the day one of coming into power or even in next 5 years...the world ignored them and even US left the after getting its mission completed of Soviet defeat. Pakistan was left alone to deal with the generation that knew nothing but war and was fully equipped by weapons provided by the US. This new generation was a different breed and I would say that Pakistan managed them pretty well during their initial phase, and before things could be brought to better, it was forced by US to change its stance. The ``ethnic bitterness`` you mentioned, should be blamed on first to the soviets and the world at large before putting on Talibans who put all sorts of embargos on them.

``India does not have a border with Afghanistan. India had poor relations with Iran in 1979. I do not think they could do anything to stop the Soviets.``

Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan? Re: # 17
Dear bbabu
``What makes you think Pakistani media is not biased? I get the feeling the Urdu press in Pakistan is no better than Nazi propaganda machine. ``

Please read the two presses together, especially in a third country and you will come to know who is more biased...I never claimed they are not. If you still are unable to, please let me know and I will give you few examples. On the personal experiences sides, It would take me ages to tell you the incidences at various international forums...for instance, ask your Shabana Azami when she represented India and ended her speech with a Pakistani poet’s Urdu words without proper reference in Melbourne in the year 2001...let me move on to the second one...

``tell me how many people died in US military actions in Afghanistan. Contrast that with the mess created by the Taliban which was supported by Pakistani military.``

over 100,000 as per the first report and the carpet bombing has resulted into environment degradation which will last for next 100 years! I personally did not liked Taliban, for the reasons which are pure Islamic, so let it remain with me...but nevertheless let me come to your point. Taliban had placed a law and order situation, which ensured all sorts of criminal activities thinkable by any criminal...no thefts, no rape...the final thing they did was stopping the cultivation of poppy resulting into heroine...few weeks later more than $500 billion loss resulted in a developed country`s banking transactions, and was on a continuous decline...and reaction - well most of us knows the rest....

Tell me where was the world when Afghanistan was raided by a superpower, destroying their economy devastating their land and killing their people, when so called friends turned their back to them because Soviets were more powerful friends?! The only thing done was to put trade and military embargo...the civilised world response! and than came the second superpower with the help of another country to train and supply military to the generation to be known as Taliban! than the world has courage to put blame on the third country alone...amazing isn`t it...! is it because it fears the Superpower? or is it because it gave $3 trillion package despite its policy to have economic embargo for nuclear explosion...no my young fellow thanks to China and Pakistan for being in India`s neighbourhood, else it would not have received so much attention

``I did not see Iraq included in your ratings when Saddam was in charge.``
He was a cruel ruler doing wrong things to his own people...I have not much feelings for him...he is getting what he deserve...

``nothing stops you from going to madrassas and preaching love. ``
Every one is responsible for his own environment. I am doing whatever I am qualified and have gained experienced for. For peace...I have been trainer of the moderators to moderate on behalf of UNESCO around the world. Nevertheless, communicatring my message to madrassas is still on my wish list, which at the moment does not seems to be materializing soon.

My young fellow, you are not too far off the track..keep on researchoing and explore and experience with open mind...you will be amazed of what you were make believed and what is the truth...once you know...it is sad you are unable to tell the whole world about it...many died in the past many will in the future by the civilized societies...!

I did not see Iraq included in your rantings when Saddam was in charge.

Who Tarnished the Image of Pakistan? Dear All
I saw the news revealing the tragedy of London, it made me sad and dismayed…but then I have seen things even more deplorable, things that are even worse …ignorance of mass in the west and even in the developing countries under the influence of foreign media which most of the time is biased, racist …or let me think are they ignorant themselves…

Reading #13 one can see in it a scavenger philosophy... worst thing is that the person does not know him/herself…

A Wiseman said, “One can never benefit from mingling up with the low and evil mentality folks…just as no matter how many grapes you put on a thorny bush, they can only get destroyed but would not bring fruit to the thorns…

What racism is, I only came to know when I started living with the “professionals” of the developed nations. When bombs strikes in the west, its terrorism because people not wearing a uniform do it. Kashmir, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Iraq suffers hundreds of thousands death by hundred of thousands uniform people…no mourning, no photo just a normal thing so move on…

I only wish I could tell the misguided young ones…that taking lives of innocents or for that matter of your own is just not allowed in Islam – its an unforgivable sin…so I turned to their souls and said the same, they responded…”we know and we are sorry, but we had to do it to make them realize how is it to live in pain and fear as they have made many nations to live with...” I responded, “it still not justify your act”…and they whispered away saying…”we did what we thought was right and to make them think…but it doesn’t matter to us anymore, for now we have done our deeds … and finished with the earthly life…”

Is Jehad Passe’? Re: # 111I am sorry, I have not read the linked messages of all, nevertheless, when I read your, it appeared to me you had talked logics and as others were unable to match it properly they did not respond properly. Having said that I would like to answer some of your raised views as under:


``I would request anyone and everyone that, look even if you donot agree to what I said it does not make me a criminal or u a felon as I quoted earlier For you is your religion and for me is mine and as is my belief that our differences will be cleared up on the day of Judgment``

I fully agree with you, as it is part of the message of our Sura Al Qaferoon in Quran.

``I am glad you see it that way. Problem is that I suspect most of you folks will not waste a minute, if you were in a ruling majority, to put to sword anyone who expresses a different opinion. I know the game. You guys are vehemently for civil liberties and free speech when in the minority. The minute you folks are in control, the others become murtad, dhimmis, or munafiqs(if not outright kafirs) without any free speech rights. ``

Whether in majority or in minority, it really doesn`t matter when it cmes to abiding by the right thing in Islam. munafiq is the term I am familar with, so I can explain it to you which implies that you project yourself as someone that you are actually not, and is considered bad in Islam. Having said that, from the Sunnah I know that we are not to judge anyone`s faith, which is something that only the person in concern or Allah knows. Under these circumstances, it is recommended to accept the face value. However, if the person is exposed with evidences unrefusable and person admits as well, yeah judgement may be passed on for being Munafiq....(I don’t know if it was required by you or not...so ignore if you were not interested in this definition)

``Dude, does it bother you that Islamic `scholars` passed a death sentence on Salman Rushdie ...but cannot even decide if the Sept 11 event was wrong or not? If that is not abject perversion of morals, I don`t know what is!````

Sorry, over here you lost yourself and adopted uncivilized attitude and words, but as it appears it is an outcome of an earlier action of someone, I would prefer to overlook and still answer your question as it is the action which is more accountable than the reaction.

Salman Rushdie was sentenced, and I think rightly, for one`s freedom should ends where other`s feeling, faith, property, start. The sentence was in reaction to his writings in which he has crushed and tortured Muslim faith and feelings which he had no right to. Even if he had such feelings he should have kept it to himself, by making it public, he invited what he deserved.

Sept. 11, is a very simple case. In Islam you are instructed to save a life of an innocent, even if you have to break your salaat (prayer). Taking life is allowed only where the person has taken life of one of yours. So if the persons those died in 9/11 were involved in killings of the family members or relatives of those who made the attack, I would understand the massive move, else I would say it was a wrongful attack; all this is said and would be applicable if the assumed presumption that the Muslim militants representing Arab people did it, is true.

Bina Shah
If you had written this work in a developed country as a student from Pakistan along with some pictures and interviews...you would have received a PhD degree (I would not be surprised, if you already have one!). I have been invited to the presentations of some PhD works by Pakistani students and they have received very distinguish honours. I have also attended defence of local students in USA, Australia, and twice even in Pakistan – on diverse topics. Once, I was attending a similar presentation by a Pakistani student in arguably the most prestigious University in Australia. The topic was concerning ``women beatings in Pakistan by husbands``. In the end, all were very appreciative of her work and extended their facilitations on her graduation. For me the most amusing moment was however, the strong visible disapproval of the Head of the Department for one of her colleagues, who draw a parallel between the men of Pakistan and Australia. She commented, ``couple of years back we did a similar study on women beating in Australia, and found out that every 4th women has received serious beating by either their husbands or their boy friends, and yet majority of these women defended their partners by saying that they were under the influence of alcohol...it is strange that similar thing happens in Pakistan where men do not consume alcohol due to their religious principles``. Why it was amusing for me was because the HOD unsuccessfully avoided eye contacts with me for the rest of the time in that room. I left earlier to ensure she doesn`t have to feel embarrassed while giving her concluding remarks. Many times, prior to that day, She had had discussions with me and always tried to convince me that it was only in developing countries like Pakistan, where such things happen, and I always incidentally had fresh reports to show her that things are no better in US or the West. However, I accept that there is a difference, I have seldom seen the people from developed part of the world projecting the wrong doing in their own countries to the people from outside, and their media ensures the same; their motto seems to be to project more, if not entirely, the positive side than the negative. It is however normal, that the scholars of the developing world feel not ashamed of bringing to the attention of the West about the dark sides of their countries...I do not know if it is to win a pat or an appreciation from the West or to show their “moral courage” superiority over them.

Trade, can it Herald Peace? When I read this article, for some odd reasons I felt the author is under too much influence of media and especially Indian media, nevertheless I will try and hint at the real factors which restricted Pakistan to grant India MFN status.

But prior to that, I would request the readers of any media to please do their own research before getting ``influenced`` by the media as it is - though I still doubt many would as the world is under influence at this moment in time....

Few days back I was reading an article in Australia on the same topic by an Indian author. He made a point that it is lack of proper word translation of MFN in Pakistani language Urdu, which has created problem of not granting MFN status to India by Pakistan...it was amazing how this type of logic is accepted by media and allowed to get printed. On top of it now I am reading through this article that Manpreet Singh Gill, a graduate of Delhi School of Economics, cites conflicts of interests as the main reason, and that the army is powerful, and lots of other big problems exist in Pakistan. Conflict with India is something the army needs to justify its own existence, and something the government (whether civilian or army) can use to divert attention from domestic problems...again a time-tested practice”.... Both of the logics - driven by journilist or the graduate scholar from the School of Economics in India are talking out of ignorance, at least in this matter, which is resulting in nothing but ignorance.

Let me give you a glimpse of the truth behind not giving India MFN status... Out of many facts, I would place just 2 here for the readers, the rest can find in the report in WTO library, I being part of the team have limitations to reveal all.


1. Granting MFN status to India was not fair for Pakistani industry and highly favourable to Indian industry. MFN implies that you extend the same trading mechanism to the new trading country, which you are extending to other existing trading partner countries. Thus if country A is manufacturing 4 items and country B manufacturing 3 items both should be allowed to export freely to each other market. However, if country A tell country B that you can only sell me 1 item as other 2 items are on restricted list as per country A economic policy, country B will be at disadvantage and it would not be fair trade..

This was exactly the scenario between Pakistan and India. Problem was that Pakistani economy was an open economy as compared to the Indian economy, and had little restricted list as compared to Indian restricted import list items. Thus what import restrictions had been placed by the Indians to other countries for items such as automobiles and air-conditioning, those restriction were to be exercised on Pakistan as well, thus restricting Pakistani exports to India; India for sure was happy with that and conferred MFN status on Pakistan. On the contrary Pakistan being an open economy had no such restrictions, thus would have left its market open for Indian manufacturers to export to Pakistan whatever they were manufacturing. The Pakistani government was not happy as it would open its doors in full for Indian exports and still unable to get for its own exporters the Indian Market due to Indian policies of restricted imports - naturally, the government was reluctant to grant India MFN status.

Pressure was still there from some of the manufacturers in Pakistan that were of the view that Pakistan can benefit more as they will be exposed to a larger market as compared to Indian exporters, however in this case the gains would have been highly skewed in favour of large manufactures, and the small scale would have confronted a shut down situation in Pakistan. Medium scale manufacturers, in Pakistan, were nevertheless also eager to open trade as well but with one condition that there be a level Playing field; being an open economy Pakistani products were superior to Indian products as they had to compete with international products as compared to India where manufacturers were shielded behind import restriction, was the opinion of these manufacturers (an air-conditioning manufacturer informed that his product is being sold 2.5 times the price in Pakistan in black market of India!).

2) Cost of Inputs: Indian government was heavily subsidizing its industrial electricity as compared to Pakistan that was competitive like Western countries. The average per unit comparative cost of electricity unit in India at the time of study was less than a rupee, whereas in Pakistan it was close to six rupees, thus denying the level playing field to the two countries manufacturers!

...I think I should stop here with the message that yes any thing whether its trade, sports, negotiation - all is nice if it is fair

Regarding illegal trade, it would have been balanced approach, if the author had mentioned the export of sugar, wheat, rice, plastic products in exchange of Paan, liquor, etc from India, or Pakistani rice being exported as Indian rice from the ports of Dubai...

Iranian Puzzle Re: # 61
When you will learn to behave like good humans, you will understand the meaning of words carrying wisdom! The statement is for humans those have sense and it was understood by the majority of your american settled Indian industrialists!

Who Created Pakistan? Re: # 221
Today, after few days, I came to see how this article was doing in subsequent discourse, and I happened to see your responses. I tried to read two different ones…but each time could not go beyond few lines; just because of your tone and hidden hatred...it smells real bad… I would have welcomed you to come and visit me either in Washington or in Sydney, but reading your thoughts make me sick…sorry I don’t have time to respond to your stuff any more for you don’t deserve it – not with this attitude of yours.

Iranian Puzzle Re: # 57

Though it hurts to try and reason with some one like you because of the attitude, still one last try is hereunder for your awakening, for I understand from where you are coming:

An Indian news paper (The Hindu May 13, 2005) clipping reads as: `` NEW DELHI: The World Bank and the Asian Development Bank (ADB) on Thursday signed agreements with the Indian Government for extending an IDA credit of $ 465 million from the World Bank and a total aid package of $205 million from the ADB towards post-tsunami reconstruction and recovery efforts in the country.

Of the ADB assistance, $100 million is to come as loan, another $100 million as grant and the balance $5 million is to be provided from the Japan Fund for Poverty Reduction, according to a World Bank statement here.``


Secondly, if you have some interest in economics you may like to read your Kelkar Task Force (KTF) paper regarding whether Indian debt / borrowing is sustainable or not; where the sustainability of borrowing or debt of a country is understood when the debt to GDP ratio is 50 percent, as per my information, the present (2005) level of Indian ratio is 56.8 per cent, which implies that it may be borrowing to pay off some outstanding debts with interest. Thus India needs to perform much well than what it is even doing now. Your desires that India should not borrow, as foreign aid does not work, is commendable, and every poor and developing country around the world desires the same, however the ground realities are different, at present it just stand as wishful thinking...When you are able to get some wisdom, you will be thanking Pakistan being in your neighborhood, else West and USA would have not given India so much importance as it received!

Take good care of yourself and if possible do try to see other side of the strories that you are at the moment familiar with!