Citizenship and Identity in Pakistan Re: # 72 Arjunm2

When I am bored, or need a distraction, I like toying with him!

Citizenship and Identity in Pakistan Re: # 39 Manto

``I don`t care what your internet penetration is really... when 70% of your population is without clean drinking water and 85% of your population thinks toilet is a hole in the ground...``

So why did you even raise the point about infrastructure, chutiye? You continue to miss the statistic in the chart that by 2025 the percentage of poor people in India will drop to below 20% (used to be 85% in 1985). That is like pulling 4 Pakistans out of poverty. Jinnah`s TNT is toast! Pakistan is regressing constitutionally, financially, politically, diplomatically.

Re: Kaalchakra
If you think that YLH`s Pakistan plan (version 17) is such a good idea, would you consider moving there? I`ll make it easier than that -- will you consider buying stock on the KSE while living in the lap of luxury in the West (I assume)? If not, then you are blowing hot air.

Naqshbandi #52
You are missing the point that Manto did as well - by 2025, only 20% of India will qualify as living below the poverty line. In `85, the number was well above 80% That social change is unlikely to be matched by Germany in the future (or Poland) since both are either high-income and middle income economies.

Citizenship and Identity in Pakistan Re: # 35 YLH

I see, so the Rutgers `graduate` is not moved by figures from McKinsey & Co! Also, misses the point that India exceeds Germany`s consumption in 17 years, and then the US` in another 30+ years! And `infrastructure` today is increasingly being defined by optical fibre, not asphalt. Do you even know what India`s projected Internet penetration is? Loser! Nehru/Patel made absolutely the right bet!

Citizenship and Identity in Pakistan YLH:
You still have not learned your lessons. You all go suckered by the Quaid. Now that you are thrice divided, the grand experiment that was supposed to be Pakistan is withering in the face of India`s economic explosion ahead. Nehru and Patel had it exactly right. They knew that one could not reason with mindless arguments. Check this out:

All burqah-obsessed Pakis should be worried more about this:







India`s consumption could leapfrog Germany`s in two decades

IN CASE any potential investor has missed India`s run of 8% growth and billion-person potential, the consultants at McKinsey have provided a useful jab in the ribs. In a report on India`s consumer market published on May 3rd, they have added detail to the probable economic explosion ahead. Assuming annual growth averages 7.3% over two decades—a reasonable bet—India may overtake Germany as the world`s fifth-biggest consumer market by 2025. It predicts the middle class will expand from 50m to 583m, leaving only a fifth of Indians in the bottom household-income bracket, earning less than 90,000 rupees ($2,200) a year (The Economist)

Citizenship and Identity in Pakistan YLH:
Here is a wonderful song on the Quaid. Sayaa tha Muhammed, Ali ka tere sar pe! Islam ke sipahi! Islam hota hai zinda har Karbala ke baad!

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Re: # 307 Dost-Mittar

You need to check out this book:

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Re: # 231 Dost
:...And let us not forget that it was the West, led by the US, which supported Islamists, including the one led by Al-Bana...``

You are a naive man and unfit for any policy making position in a Western foreign office because you lack realpolitik. However, you could serve as a useful sidekick for Lou Dobbs on CNN with your pessimistic outlook.

Churchill once described the West`s decision to support Stalinist Russia in WW2 after Hitler attacked Russia in June 1941 as, ``if Hitler invaded hell I would at least make a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons.``

The West (correctly) understood Hitler to be the worse of the two evils then and picked sides. So, it was in the Cold War, when the Islamists were the lesser of the two evils. The Soviets posed a real existentialist threat to the West, but not the pajama-clad Islamists (not then, not now). Now that the Cold War is won, the pajama-clads can be put away. And they will be put away.

The history of the West is replete with `blunders` and `military setbacks` (note: Pearl Harbor, the Fall of Singapore, the Great Indian Mutiny, the British defeat in Afghanistan in the 19th century), but the outcome of a protracted conflict has never been in doubt.

Ciao.

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Re: # 207 Tahmed32

``...Was there implication ever presented to the Pakistani people? Was it ever debated?...``
Yes, indeed they were. `Sovereignty of God` was acknowledged first by the Pakistan Constituent Assembly and passed by it in the form of the Objectives Resolution! in 1949

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Re: # 207 Tahmed32

``...Was there implication ever presented to the Pakistani people? Was it ever debated?...``
Yes, indeed they were. `Sovereignty of God` was acknowledged first by the Pakistan Constituent Assembly and passed by it in the form of the Objectives Resolution!

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Re: # 200 Urstruly

Urstruly, what about Tahmed`s other question: `Why not India?`

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash All burqah-obsessed muslims should be worried more about this:



India`s consumption could leapfrog Germany`s in two decades

IN CASE any potential investor has missed India`s run of 8% growth and billion-person potential, the consultants at McKinsey have provided a useful jab in the ribs. In a report on India`s consumer market published on May 3rd, they have added detail to the probable economic explosion ahead. Assuming annual growth averages 7.3% over two decades—a reasonable bet—India may overtake Germany as the world`s fifth-biggest consumer market by 2025. It predicts the middle class will expand from 50m to 583m, leaving only a fifth of Indians in the bottom household-income bracket, earning less than 90,000 rupees ($2,200) a year (The Economist)

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Re: # 56 Hamidm2

``...it has always been my contention that women who wear the hijab are usually fat and ugly or just plain old ugly ...``

On a more serious note, have you read Jared Diamond`s Why is Sex Fun? a masterful treatise on the role of evolution on human sexuality? It describes why human females are the only ones who conceal ovulation to gain an upper hand in mate selection (the theory is somewhat complicated, and I will explain if you have an interest), and why the human breasts/penis are disproportionately over sized compared to other species. Loads of interesting stuff linking evolution to sexuality. Perhaps, the burqa clads are on to something far more profound than you and I understand? Perhaps, it is giving them an unfair evolutionary advantage in mate selection that you and I cannot fathom? All this holds if burqa wearing is a voluntary act (which it may not be and thus the above may not hold, in which case maybe forcing it on men gives the men an unfair advantage). My head is spinning with the possibilities. Your wisdom on this will help me find some peace.

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Re: # 56 Ustaad Hamidm2

``... it has always been my contention that women who wear the hijab are usually fat and ugly or just plain old ugly ....``
You may be right, because it is my contention that women are keen to take it off are pretty and have something to be proud of as shown in that picture!

``.... on a lighter note, i understand playboy is featuring the ``girls of hafsa`` in the august issue ....``
What articles are they publishing? You know, if I ever pick one up it is mostly for the literary content.

``... afterthought: if it was okay for adam and eve to romp and gambol in the garden of eden without any clothes, why can`t we have nude beaches ?....``
You are not out of luck - there are a few still around.

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Re: # 53 Zeena

Only a person devoid of common sense will jump to the conclusion that you did. Indeed, in most of the world where there are no burqa police, most women do not roam the streets naked! This may be too much for you understand given your previous response.

Burqa Vaganza – A Satirical Backlash Why are you guys worldwide so obsessed by the burqa? You guys are one bunch of highly insecure individuals, and by `you` I mean the entire Islamic crescent from Morocco to Pakistan, and then from Bangladesh to Indonesia:

In Turkey, the Army has threatened an e-coup because the Islamist PM`s party is backed by conservative, Islamic classes from Anatolia. In Iran, (contrary to the author of this article`s assertion that `burqa is a Muslim tradition and was used in a conventional and voluntary way`), there are scores of ugly policemen enforcing the burqa on pretty faces. See picture below:



In an encounter last month on a street in Tehran, two policewomen with tightly fitting head scarves chastised a younger woman whose hair showed. Since 1979, Iranian law has specified that women and men must dress in a manner befitting Islam, and the law is interpreted very strictly at times.


This is not just a Pakistani problem - it is a worldwide Muslim problem. Wake up! This is the 21st century! You guys are all hopelessly behind modernity - and will fall back to the stone age unless you mend your ways!

Reflections on the Virginia Tech School Tragedy Re: # 106 Naqsh

The way the wind is blowing, it is not looking too good. U.S. Concerned About Britons From Pakistan. ``Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff has opened talks with the British government on how to curb the access of British citizens of Pakistani origin to the United States.