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All rise!!! The final word on the subject from the General, Chief Executive, and the President!
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EXCERPT: Interview with Pakistan president Musharraf
September 23, 2005
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| During a tape-recorded, 50-minute interview with the Washington Post, Pakistan president Gen. Pervez Musharraf said that claiming rape has become a ``moneymaking concern`` in Pakistan. Musharraf later denied saying this to the Post. Here is a recording of the quote in the 12th paragraph of the Sept. 12 story. The remark was made in regards to the case of Mukhtar Mai, an illiterate woman who spoke publicly about having been gang-raped on the orders of a village council in 2002. |
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Musharraf is following the well trodden path first laid down by King Hussein of Jordan, Shah of Iran, Egypt`s Mubarak and other middle eastern lackeys of America. In each case, they created political space for fundamentalists to counter domestic opposition. In each case, self-preservation came before the national interest. Musharraf is no different. In the meantime, others are lackeying up to the
2nd pillar of American power.
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Apr 6, 2007 06:09 am
Re: # 532 Dullabhatti:Musharraf is following the well trodden path first laid down by King Hussein of Jordan, Shah of Iran, Egypt`s Mubarak and other middle eastern lackeys of America. In each case, they created political space for fundamentalists to counter domestic opposition. In each case, self-preservation came before the national interest. Musharraf is no different. In the meantime, others are lackeying up to the
2nd pillar of American power.
Girls Gone Wild
Congratulations! Pakistan establishes its first ever independent judiciary since Independence in the national capital!
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Apr 6, 2007 05:43 am
Tahmed32:Congratulations! Pakistan establishes its first ever independent judiciary since Independence in the national capital!
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Allah hu Akbar! Pakistan ka matlab kya? La illah allah la lah! Allah hu Akbar!
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Apr 5, 2007 07:48 pm
Re: # 505 Tahmed32Allah hu Akbar! Pakistan ka matlab kya? La illah allah la lah! Allah hu Akbar!
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Zeena, Tahmed32 lives in a world of `theory` and the `abstract` with little or no connection to reality. He lambasts the `maulvi` and the `mullah` for all perceived ills but does not acknowledge the role that these individuals play in interpreting the Koran (which according to Tahmed is the real and only source of Islam) for the masses of illiterates in Pakistan. If it were not for the maulvi and the mullah, who would read the Koran for the illiterates? You are not going to get any rational answer from this `muslim`, however much he claim that the Koran has taught him rationality!
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Apr 5, 2007 11:20 am
Re: # 466 ZeenaZeena, Tahmed32 lives in a world of `theory` and the `abstract` with little or no connection to reality. He lambasts the `maulvi` and the `mullah` for all perceived ills but does not acknowledge the role that these individuals play in interpreting the Koran (which according to Tahmed is the real and only source of Islam) for the masses of illiterates in Pakistan. If it were not for the maulvi and the mullah, who would read the Koran for the illiterates? You are not going to get any rational answer from this `muslim`, however much he claim that the Koran has taught him rationality!
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Thank you, again. We are all normally polite individuals from civil society. But, like I wrote in #319, `Tahmed32 and his ilk are more irresponsible than the ill-educated folks or the village `maulvi` that he so likes to lampoon`.
CIAO
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Apr 4, 2007 02:32 pm
Re: # 367 Salim ChauhanThank you, again. We are all normally polite individuals from civil society. But, like I wrote in #319, `Tahmed32 and his ilk are more irresponsible than the ill-educated folks or the village `maulvi` that he so likes to lampoon`.
CIAO
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``I was referring to judgement on matters of religion.``
That was not the clarifying exception that you used in #237. You used the term `inquisitor`. And yes, you are highly insecure, hyper-sensitive, with a massive chip on the shoulder. That is why you have chosen to make personal insults to several today (not even realizing that there is nothing personal on an Internet blog)! Your `cleverness` is bare for all to see!
CIAO
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Apr 4, 2007 02:28 pm
Re: # 365 Tahmed``I was referring to judgement on matters of religion.``
That was not the clarifying exception that you used in #237. You used the term `inquisitor`. And yes, you are highly insecure, hyper-sensitive, with a massive chip on the shoulder. That is why you have chosen to make personal insults to several today (not even realizing that there is nothing personal on an Internet blog)! Your `cleverness` is bare for all to see!
CIAO
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``...reasonably non-stupid indian men like you succumb to resentments...``
Dharma,
Does the text in bold not contradict Tahmed`s Koranic instruction to leave judgment to god?
``...post directed to me ignored...``
What make-believe world do you live in? This is the Internet! Hello! What matters is exposing your ideas in public for all to see, not some hypocritical and self-contradictory response from you. Salim Chauhan, Kaalchakra and now Dharma can read your ideas as they can read mine. That matters - not your or mine feelings! This is not some private living room conversation you know!
And as regards your reference to `frustration` let all see who resorted to name calling! That is a far more eloquent testament to purile behavior as to who is really frustrated!
CIAO
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Apr 4, 2007 01:59 pm
Re: # 360 Tahmed to Dharma``...reasonably non-stupid indian men like you succumb to resentments...``
Dharma,
Does the text in bold not contradict Tahmed`s Koranic instruction to leave judgment to god?
``...post directed to me ignored...``
What make-believe world do you live in? This is the Internet! Hello! What matters is exposing your ideas in public for all to see, not some hypocritical and self-contradictory response from you. Salim Chauhan, Kaalchakra and now Dharma can read your ideas as they can read mine. That matters - not your or mine feelings! This is not some private living room conversation you know!
And as regards your reference to `frustration` let all see who resorted to name calling! That is a far more eloquent testament to purile behavior as to who is really frustrated!
CIAO
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Do us a favor, will you? Take a short juicy tidbit from this posting and translate it for us. Allah hu Akbar. Thank you.
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Apr 4, 2007 12:18 pm
Re: # 309 UrstrulyDo us a favor, will you? Take a short juicy tidbit from this posting and translate it for us. Allah hu Akbar. Thank you.
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``...the self-styled and self-righteous moral compass of Chowk and expose him to be the racist, hypocrite, and idiotic weathercock for all seasons and all winds?...``
As I said earlier, Tahmed32 and his ilk are more irresponsible than the ill-educated folks or the village `maulvi` that he so likes to lampoon. You see, Tahmed is Western-educated, well-traveled, and has all the privileges that life in the West can afford. Yet, he routinely fails to use (in his words) his `god-given faculty` to consider on these weighty matters. For this hypocrisy, he deserves special condemnation.
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Apr 4, 2007 12:16 pm
Re: # 311 Salim Chauhan``...the self-styled and self-righteous moral compass of Chowk and expose him to be the racist, hypocrite, and idiotic weathercock for all seasons and all winds?...``
As I said earlier, Tahmed32 and his ilk are more irresponsible than the ill-educated folks or the village `maulvi` that he so likes to lampoon. You see, Tahmed is Western-educated, well-traveled, and has all the privileges that life in the West can afford. Yet, he routinely fails to use (in his words) his `god-given faculty` to consider on these weighty matters. For this hypocrisy, he deserves special condemnation.
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``Touché.``
Thanks. The great prophet Tahmed32`s silence on these weighty matters speaks volumes about his hypocrisy and belies the avuncular, self-righteous image that he has tried so hard to cultivate on Chowk. He will respond (if at all) only in vague generalities, but never in the specifics. He epitomizes the irresponsible elite of Pakistan that is dragging that country down the drain.
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Apr 4, 2007 11:45 am
Re: # 303 Salim_Chauhan``Touché.``
Thanks. The great prophet Tahmed32`s silence on these weighty matters speaks volumes about his hypocrisy and belies the avuncular, self-righteous image that he has tried so hard to cultivate on Chowk. He will respond (if at all) only in vague generalities, but never in the specifics. He epitomizes the irresponsible elite of Pakistan that is dragging that country down the drain.
Girls Gone Wild
``...Hence Islam never had any need for `re-formation` along the Christian lines of the reforming papacy...``
I am not suggesting a re-formation `along Christian lines`. It could be a reformation along `any line. This has not happened and probably never will because the Koran is believed to be the literal word of god. The Koran has to be accepted in toto. Anything less is deemed apostasy punishable by death. Let us see how prophet Tahmed weighs in on the subject of The Wall Street Journal op/ed piece by the former terrorist.
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Apr 4, 2007 09:41 am
Re: # 250 Kaalchakra``...Hence Islam never had any need for `re-formation` along the Christian lines of the reforming papacy...``
I am not suggesting a re-formation `along Christian lines`. It could be a reformation along `any line. This has not happened and probably never will because the Koran is believed to be the literal word of god. The Koran has to be accepted in toto. Anything less is deemed apostasy punishable by death. Let us see how prophet Tahmed weighs in on the subject of The Wall Street Journal op/ed piece by the former terrorist.
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``...Quran is strictly against individuals taking upon themselves the role of inquisitor ...``
But you do that all the time, right here on Chowk! Are you truly a Muslim?
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Apr 4, 2007 08:00 am
Re: # 237 Tahmed32``...Quran is strictly against individuals taking upon themselves the role of inquisitor ...``
But you do that all the time, right here on Chowk! Are you truly a Muslim?
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``...were burnt at the stake in germany and france alone...``
And then you ignore entirely the subsequent Christian Reformation that cut to size the role of the Pope and the Catholic church. Has there been an Islamic Reformation? Not mentioning this crucial piece defeats your argument. The West learnt from these mistakes and Islam...?
``...Even if one were to ignore all of the above...``
Yes, you should for the reason stated above.
``...Quran is strictly against individuals taking upon themselves the role of inquisitor ...``
Can you cite the verse in the Koran that states so?
CIAO
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Apr 4, 2007 07:51 am
Re: # 237 Tauheed mian``...were burnt at the stake in germany and france alone...``
And then you ignore entirely the subsequent Christian Reformation that cut to size the role of the Pope and the Catholic church. Has there been an Islamic Reformation? Not mentioning this crucial piece defeats your argument. The West learnt from these mistakes and Islam...?
``...Even if one were to ignore all of the above...``
Yes, you should for the reason stated above.
``...Quran is strictly against individuals taking upon themselves the role of inquisitor ...``
Can you cite the verse in the Koran that states so?
CIAO
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