What Lies Beneath: Dispatch from the Frontlines of the Burqa Brigades Re: # 280 Hamidm2

``...i think it is time to drop a 20,000 pound bomb on the denizens of lal masjid ...``

Paki Air Force doesn`t have those, and they won`t let the Americans do the job. Plus, take a look at the map of Islamabad (attached below)- the other `revered` Paki instituitions will be toast. I mean, the Supreme Court, Parliament and the holy of holies, Constitution avenue. But, if you assume that these buildings are hollow shells, and are worthless because they serve no essential purpose in Paki public life, then at least this reason can be removed from consideration.



Otherwise, only laser guide smart bombs can do the job and George Bush will have to bail Mush out this time. Mush is on his way to becoming the Paki Hosni Mubarak, and Pak towards the Subcontinent`s Egypt.

Manto:
I swung by Rutgers (your old stomping ground) yesterday and enjoyed a plate of delicious Indian style paani puri at an Indian restaurant at Mahatma Gandhi Mall in nearby Edison, NJ to celebrate your tenure there! The staff even remembered you and were proud of your accomplishments on BBC and Chowk! Keep up the good work. Never mind that Jinnah`s Pakistan is being bombed to the stone age in his capital city. Don`t let the details bother you!

Faruk #272:
You can add the following to your observation on Jinnah, `It would be more accurate to describe Jinnah as a communalist than a fundamentalist`, who knowingly and irresponsibly adopted an untenable maximalist position, dividing, rather than bringing people together, and playing upon their fears, the folly of which is now being made abundantly clear in subsequent events in Pakistan (`71, Lal Masjid, Hudood laws, etc.)

CIAO

Rest in Peace Pakistan (1947-1974) YLH:
When it comes to Jinnah`s Pakistan and all the rest of that `theory`, here is all that matters:
This all that matters:



The rest is talk. Cheap talk.
CIAO

Letter from Pakistan Re: # 1 YLH

``...Pakistan is evolving and will soon be a functioning democracy ..``
I would like to take this to the next level: are you willing to bet real money on that happening? You pick a time limit and the amount of money you are willing to bet. If you are willing to wager USD 1000 on Pakistan becoming a `functioning` democracy (i.e. freely elected legislature and PM, army back in the barracks, etc.) within 2 years (my yardstick for `soon`), I will be interested.

Satanic Verses Hello Pakis:

Looks like your government is getting pretty desperate that the `controversy` over Sir Rushdie`s knighthood is dying down an no one took its attempt to kick up a diplomatic row with the UK seriously. Now, it seems, your `esteemed` El Presidente wants to approach the holy of holies - the OIC with a plea ``to take a position” on the knighthood``. You see, other than Iran and Paki-stan, other countries in the Muslim world have been quiet. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Tasnim Aslam said at her weekly briefing on Monday she could not comment on the silence of countries such as Saudi Arabia, Malaysia or Indonesia. This story has the following sub-titles:

Near-isolation in Islamic world for Islamabad

More heat in Parliament than on the streets

El Presidente trying to stir up the pot to keep attention away from his the Judge - his nemesis? Are you Pakis going to be deluded once again? The Generalissimo is winding your key like a toy. Will you exhibit the predictable response? We are watching!

CIAO

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 108 Tahmed32
You are digging a deeper hole with each such pronouncement and confirming your status as the Chowk village idiot! You hypocrite!
CIAO

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 104 Salim

Tahmed is a hypocrite and a bundle of contradictions. These characteristics overwhelm whatever positive aspects he has in his personality. His kind are very dangerous, because they have an IQ high enough to influence others, but not high enough to sift through the good and the bad. As a result, their influence tends to be generally bad. He also suffers from a superiority (`I am right`) complex. I find it useful and hopefully educational to others to puncture his bubble. Some Punjabis (and I say this in all seriousness, being one myself) are full of themselves. Fortunately, in India, we are a minority, and not taken very seriously.

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 102 Tahmed

I thought that you were done with me! And my nick still gives you hernia. Ha! Ha! Ha!
I`ll discuss matters of substance when you are able to rise above petty matters.

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 94 Tahmed

Repeat. I don`t care what you think, except about exposing your pompous ignorance.

``off to some indian board and worry about the filth in hindu society. instead of pretending to be an american research organization commenting from mt. olympus on the ills of muslim society.``

Most who live in non-Muslim societies are free individuals who can choose to read whatever they want, think whatever they want, write whatever they want. When you absorb the simplicity of this principle, you will quit making the assertions that earned you the `village idiot` title. You cannot dictate what I read or write, and where I do. I am free to illuminate your ignorance.

Here is another chutyatic observation from you: `off to some indian board `

Out of the millions of posts that you have written on Chowk, have you bothered even once to read the title in the titlebar: Chowk-Identities of India Pakistan? (note the order in which the countries are called out?)

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 92 Tahmed

I don`t care what you think, except about exposing your pompous ignorance. You obviously knew nothing about the Booker Prize (a well read person would not made the gaffe that you did). A discussion with you will be illuminating for you, but not for me.

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 90 Tahmed

Who cares about a discussion? More important: bare the facts for all to see. Let them decide whether you qualify as one or not!

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 88 Tahmed32

``...If there had been no iranian fatwa against Rushdie, he would have been just another mediocre, little known writer...``

Tahmed is a village idiot who does not know his facts. Period. Zeemax, you got Tahmed32 cornered this time. Here is a part of Rushdie`s chronology.

Rushdie won the Booker Prize in 1981 for his novel Midnight`s Children. The fatwa did not come until 1988. In case you didn`t know, the winner of the Booker Prize is generally assured of international renown and success. It is also a mark of distinction for authors to be nominated for the Booker longlist or selected for inclusion in the shortlist. In 1993, the Booker of Bookers Prize was awarded to Salman Rushdie for Midnight`s Children (the 1981 winner), as the best novel to win the award in the first 25 years of its existence.

But, in keeping with you chauvinistic, pompous, alpha male, Punjabi muslim, attitude, your observations come as no surprise.

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 56 Naqsh

Khomeini was no Wahabbi - he started it with the infamous Rushdie fatwa

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? From Tom Friedman`s NYT opinion piece:

``But since the Islamic parties have monopolized the mosques and the authoritarian regimes have monopolized the public square, anyone trying to articulate an Arab Fourth Way today “is competing against either God or the state — and between God and the state, what room is left for secular democrats?” asked Palestinian pollster Khalil Shikaki.
Only weeds can grow there — small nihilist weeds, like Fatah al Islam in Lebanon or Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia in Iraq or Islamic Jihad in Gaza. And they are growing.``

Sums up the way ahead for Pakstan. Mend your ways - little time left!

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 56 Naqsh

You are a wise man, and an atypical Muslim

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 45 Zee
Bottom line up-front: The average profit margin of a security on the Bombay Stock Exchange is 3 % points higher than on NYSE or . Follow the money, and you will get it! Everything else is talk. Cheap talk.
CIAO

Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant? Re: # 32 Manto

``...I have said my part and I am done here...``

Aw...come on! Spew forth some `wisdom` so that we can chew it!