Pakistan’s Choice
As I understand it, the word ``Mian`` in Lucknow and other areas of UP refers to several things:
1. Mian can refer to young noble lad - e.g. son of landlord
2. Mian can refer to a woman`s husband - e.g Un ke miyan ne yeh kaha
3. Mian can be used affectionately or sarcastically to denote overly polite - e.g. kiya haal hen Miyan Sahib ke?
4. People call their parrots Mithoo MiaN
I read that in Gujarat, Mian is used by Hindus to refer to Muslims.
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 5, 2005 08:48 am
Southasian #583,As I understand it, the word ``Mian`` in Lucknow and other areas of UP refers to several things:
1. Mian can refer to young noble lad - e.g. son of landlord
2. Mian can refer to a woman`s husband - e.g Un ke miyan ne yeh kaha
3. Mian can be used affectionately or sarcastically to denote overly polite - e.g. kiya haal hen Miyan Sahib ke?
4. People call their parrots Mithoo MiaN
I read that in Gujarat, Mian is used by Hindus to refer to Muslims.
Salim
Losing My Religion
You know, I kind of believe that. Not only do you know more about Islam than most Pakis, you even behave more like a Muslim than most Pakis. :)
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 5, 2005 08:44 am
#134, Dillidost {``I am not even a Muslim, but I think I know more about Islam than Pakis do.``}You know, I kind of believe that. Not only do you know more about Islam than most Pakis, you even behave more like a Muslim than most Pakis. :)
Salim
Pakistan’s Choice
I thought that Indians, especially Hindus, were very tolerant and provided refuge to those in need. Several days ago, I publicly apologized to you, on one of these FP boards, that I am sorry for using a nic similar to yours. I also explained my reason for doing that - circumventing Chowk Staff censors who want to muzzle my viewpoints. I also stated that I selected your name, because of its honorable status and friendliness.
Nevertheless, you chose to ignore my appeal and have resorted to defensive and arrogant insults. Too bad, BHAINS KE AGE BEEN BAJANA .....:)
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 5, 2005 08:24 am
rsridhar,I thought that Indians, especially Hindus, were very tolerant and provided refuge to those in need. Several days ago, I publicly apologized to you, on one of these FP boards, that I am sorry for using a nic similar to yours. I also explained my reason for doing that - circumventing Chowk Staff censors who want to muzzle my viewpoints. I also stated that I selected your name, because of its honorable status and friendliness.
Nevertheless, you chose to ignore my appeal and have resorted to defensive and arrogant insults. Too bad, BHAINS KE AGE BEEN BAJANA .....:)
Salim
Losing My Religion
{`` My mother is French Christian and my father an Indian Muslim. It worked best for me to celebrate my diverse heritage. I think my kids will go through the same thing. My wife is Italian. ``}
Faruk,
I am really impressed. You have an ever more diverse background than I.
Good for you. Ipiaceri.
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 5, 2005 08:19 am
#131 by Faruk on August 5, 2005 7:55am PT{`` My mother is French Christian and my father an Indian Muslim. It worked best for me to celebrate my diverse heritage. I think my kids will go through the same thing. My wife is Italian. ``}
Faruk,
I am really impressed. You have an ever more diverse background than I.
Good for you. Ipiaceri.
Salim
Pakistan’s Choice
You should feel honored that someone would want to have their nic resemble your name.
Nothing sinister mister. But then, I never realized you were a jihadist when it came to your own name.
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 5, 2005 08:14 am
Sri miyan,You should feel honored that someone would want to have their nic resemble your name.
Nothing sinister mister. But then, I never realized you were a jihadist when it came to your own name.
Salim
Pakistan’s Choice
re: this rsribhar character
Just for records, this rsribhar character is someone totally different from me.
Sridhar
NOTICE TO ALL.
Just because this rsridhar character attempts to walk on two legs, pretends to have a brain, and is extremely proud of his South Indian name, he is really totally different from me. Of course, I am not responsible for any debts, promises, or contracts incurred by this primate. :)
Salim.
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 5, 2005 08:13 am
#559 by rsridhar on August 4, 2005 4:33pm PTre: this rsribhar character
Just for records, this rsribhar character is someone totally different from me.
Sridhar
NOTICE TO ALL.
Just because this rsridhar character attempts to walk on two legs, pretends to have a brain, and is extremely proud of his South Indian name, he is really totally different from me. Of course, I am not responsible for any debts, promises, or contracts incurred by this primate. :)
Salim.
Pakistan’s Choice
re:#519 by rsribhar
Salim Miyan,
``Any blue-blooded Hiindu would say ``Jalim.``
Perhaps one without a brain!
Even a south indian like me, who grew up in Delhi watching Bollywood movies, learnt enough Urdu to know how to pronounce not just Zalim but also words like Zakhm, Zameer etc etc. Only u morons think your language is the greatest and nobody else can speak it.
BTW, Salim miyan, your assuming a name similar to my own is in bad taste.
Sridhar``}
Sridhar,
You get an ``A`` in Urdu diction. Now, get yourself that brain you mentioned.
BTW, you are not entirely correct. The majority of Pakis cannot speak Urdu correctly - yes the Urdu language is one of the richest in the world, because it borrows at will from Hindustani, Arabic, Farsi, and even some Turkish.
So, having a name sounding like yours is in bad taste. I will defer to you on that. I never thought that your name was in bad taste, but if you say so ...
Also, Sri, I am not your MIAN. :)
Salim.
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 5, 2005 08:11 am
#560 by rsridhar on August 4, 2005 4:48pm PTre:#519 by rsribhar
Salim Miyan,
``Any blue-blooded Hiindu would say ``Jalim.``
Perhaps one without a brain!
Even a south indian like me, who grew up in Delhi watching Bollywood movies, learnt enough Urdu to know how to pronounce not just Zalim but also words like Zakhm, Zameer etc etc. Only u morons think your language is the greatest and nobody else can speak it.
BTW, Salim miyan, your assuming a name similar to my own is in bad taste.
Sridhar``}
Sridhar,
You get an ``A`` in Urdu diction. Now, get yourself that brain you mentioned.
BTW, you are not entirely correct. The majority of Pakis cannot speak Urdu correctly - yes the Urdu language is one of the richest in the world, because it borrows at will from Hindustani, Arabic, Farsi, and even some Turkish.
So, having a name sounding like yours is in bad taste. I will defer to you on that. I never thought that your name was in bad taste, but if you say so ...
Also, Sri, I am not your MIAN. :)
Salim.
Pakistan-Afghan Relations in Murky Waters
Everything you said is true and I agree with you - except the part about nuking Pakiland. I think that India is in a fortunate position, even better than 1971, to rectify matters. Pakistan, a stupid mistake to begin with, is coming apart at the seams, internally. Now is the time to show compassion to the unfortunate people of that country. If I could advise India, I would recommend that India help Pakiland by slowly and gradually reintegrating this once happy area of northwestern India back into the motherland.
By the way, here is an example of the viciousness of some Pakis. It is just more than the Paki establishment, even some individual Pakis are adamant on alienating others, including their own former allies. This is from the ``Losing ...Religion`` forum:
#97 by Saminasha on August 4, 2005 11:51am PT
{``Ah...the ``husband`` of the Turkish whore speaks..Romair, you must ask Salim Chuhan to post pics of his wife servicing other men...for some reason, chuhan found it necessary to advertise the extent of his cuckolded condition.....and of course, no pics of himself...undoubtably he is as physically lacking as he is creatively and er...well....lets leave it there....``}
and #108 by Romair {``I almost started singing, ``Pak Sar Zameen`` after reading the, ``Turkish whore`` comment........ ``}
Saminasha, Romair
I showed my wife your kind comments about her. She is a very religious young Turkish Muslim woman and was obviously disappointed with such language emanating from fellow Muslims and brotherly/sisterly Pakis. Actually, I showed her Saminasha`s picture (the famous one of her at Lehmann College in the Bronx!). When my wife stopped laughing, I informed her that this ``lady`` is a leading spokesperson for women`s rights and that Brother Romair is a valiant jihadi battling the enemies of Islam and Pakistan.
My wife wants you to know that she will pray for a cure for whatever is afflicting Saminasha to give her such a rotten mouth. She will also pray that Romair does not end up as a crude delivery module for one of AlKayda`s mass transit bombs.
It is amazing how some Pakis go out of their way to alienate others, even those who would be their normal allies. Pretty soon, Indians and Israelis will have to get in line behind the Turks, Arabs, Afghans, British, and Americans in expressing their disgust at Pakis and Pakiland.
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 5, 2005 08:02 am
Ranjit #19, Everything you said is true and I agree with you - except the part about nuking Pakiland. I think that India is in a fortunate position, even better than 1971, to rectify matters. Pakistan, a stupid mistake to begin with, is coming apart at the seams, internally. Now is the time to show compassion to the unfortunate people of that country. If I could advise India, I would recommend that India help Pakiland by slowly and gradually reintegrating this once happy area of northwestern India back into the motherland.
By the way, here is an example of the viciousness of some Pakis. It is just more than the Paki establishment, even some individual Pakis are adamant on alienating others, including their own former allies. This is from the ``Losing ...Religion`` forum:
#97 by Saminasha on August 4, 2005 11:51am PT
{``Ah...the ``husband`` of the Turkish whore speaks..Romair, you must ask Salim Chuhan to post pics of his wife servicing other men...for some reason, chuhan found it necessary to advertise the extent of his cuckolded condition.....and of course, no pics of himself...undoubtably he is as physically lacking as he is creatively and er...well....lets leave it there....``}
and #108 by Romair {``I almost started singing, ``Pak Sar Zameen`` after reading the, ``Turkish whore`` comment........ ``}
Saminasha, Romair
I showed my wife your kind comments about her. She is a very religious young Turkish Muslim woman and was obviously disappointed with such language emanating from fellow Muslims and brotherly/sisterly Pakis. Actually, I showed her Saminasha`s picture (the famous one of her at Lehmann College in the Bronx!). When my wife stopped laughing, I informed her that this ``lady`` is a leading spokesperson for women`s rights and that Brother Romair is a valiant jihadi battling the enemies of Islam and Pakistan.
My wife wants you to know that she will pray for a cure for whatever is afflicting Saminasha to give her such a rotten mouth. She will also pray that Romair does not end up as a crude delivery module for one of AlKayda`s mass transit bombs.
It is amazing how some Pakis go out of their way to alienate others, even those who would be their normal allies. Pretty soon, Indians and Israelis will have to get in line behind the Turks, Arabs, Afghans, British, and Americans in expressing their disgust at Pakis and Pakiland.
Salim
Pakistan’s Choice
Dost, too late, I already married my second cousin. :)
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 4, 2005 02:48 pm
Friend, #550 {``BTW, I hope you only study incest and do not go any further.. ``}Dost, too late, I already married my second cousin. :)
Pakistan’s Choice
Another unfortunate innocent casualty of 9/11 and the London bombings. Our young hero cannot get a visa immediately.
Perhaps, a recommendation from Jenny McCarthy ...
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 4, 2005 02:30 pm
#545, {``Arjun, I am going to be in Pakistan for till at least next year`s June,``}Another unfortunate innocent casualty of 9/11 and the London bombings. Our young hero cannot get a visa immediately.
Perhaps, a recommendation from Jenny McCarthy ...
Pakistan’s Choice
I would tend to agree with you. Unfortunately, I cannot make the same claim. :)
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 4, 2005 02:28 pm
Arjun, #546 {``In any case, you can search through my posts and see where I`ve expressed a personal loathing of pakis... ``}I would tend to agree with you. Unfortunately, I cannot make the same claim. :)
Salim
Pakistan’s Choice
OK, if you insist, you can have `Zalim` as a 100% Khalis Hindi word. Just to let you know, you used three words - Urdu (Turkish), Mardood (Farsi, I think!), Zalim (100% Arabic from the root word ZLM and associated with Zulum, Mazloom, etc..)
You didn`t know that I was an entymologist. HA HA :) Yes, I study incest.
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 4, 2005 02:07 pm
Friend #522 {``What urdu! Mardood mein to hindi mein likh raha tha. Zalim is 100% khalis hindi;-) ``}OK, if you insist, you can have `Zalim` as a 100% Khalis Hindi word. Just to let you know, you used three words - Urdu (Turkish), Mardood (Farsi, I think!), Zalim (100% Arabic from the root word ZLM and associated with Zulum, Mazloom, etc..)
You didn`t know that I was an entymologist. HA HA :) Yes, I study incest.
Salim
Pakistan’s Choice
For all of our sakes, let`s hope that Mr. Elahi blooms into a Jenny and not a Joe McCarthy. :)
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 4, 2005 12:18 pm
#506, Manto {``It is completely up to Mr Elahi... its his crossroads...``}For all of our sakes, let`s hope that Mr. Elahi blooms into a Jenny and not a Joe McCarthy. :)
Salim
Pakistan’s Choice
Yaar, dost, please do not commit frienlicide. Hostility was just mentioned as a contrast to your nic. Nothing sinister, mister. I was just having fun.
BTW, we caught you, you said ``Zalim.`` Any blue-blooded Hiindu would say ``Jalim.`` So, what excuse do you have for your proficiency in Urdu?
Good to interact with you. Sir, you are funny and witty. That`s all that matters. Being right is no one`s right. :)
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 4, 2005 12:17 pm
#507, Friend,Yaar, dost, please do not commit frienlicide. Hostility was just mentioned as a contrast to your nic. Nothing sinister, mister. I was just having fun.
BTW, we caught you, you said ``Zalim.`` Any blue-blooded Hiindu would say ``Jalim.`` So, what excuse do you have for your proficiency in Urdu?
Good to interact with you. Sir, you are funny and witty. That`s all that matters. Being right is no one`s right. :)
Salim
Pakistan’s Choice
I agree, my friend. You were so sincere in presenting the choices and discussing the options. Regardless of the ensuing circus atmosphere, you have managed to stir up debate and loosened up creative juices all over Chowk. Anytime you pass 500+ posts, you have succeeded. I thank you for your compliments and just to let you know, I always enjoyed your own humor and wit on Chowk UP.
Don`t worry about the party on your turf. There are some people who will have their fiesta anywhere, even at a funeral.
Thanks,
Salim
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 4, 2005 12:02 pm
GODot #505, {``The article itself is quite serious. However, this board is bursting with fun ...``}I agree, my friend. You were so sincere in presenting the choices and discussing the options. Regardless of the ensuing circus atmosphere, you have managed to stir up debate and loosened up creative juices all over Chowk. Anytime you pass 500+ posts, you have succeeded. I thank you for your compliments and just to let you know, I always enjoyed your own humor and wit on Chowk UP.
Don`t worry about the party on your turf. There are some people who will have their fiesta anywhere, even at a funeral.
Thanks,
Salim
Pardon, didn’t mean to kill you...
No, I am not related to Amar, Akbar, or Anthony, that I know of. That`s no joke. :)
I do agree with you about India (except for our soldiers) being fortunate to stay out of the two WWs in Europe. Too bad, Jinnah and Nehru did not learn from those tragedies and come up with a plan to save Indians (Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs) from the horrors of partition.
Nice interacting with you.
Salim Premwalla Rsribhar Kardesh Barachota KKKandK Nangaparbat :)
Anything to circumvent Chowk`s prejudice against me.
Posted by
rsribhar
Aug 4, 2005 11:54 am
Pmishra2 No, I am not related to Amar, Akbar, or Anthony, that I know of. That`s no joke. :)
I do agree with you about India (except for our soldiers) being fortunate to stay out of the two WWs in Europe. Too bad, Jinnah and Nehru did not learn from those tragedies and come up with a plan to save Indians (Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs) from the horrors of partition.
Nice interacting with you.
Salim Premwalla Rsribhar Kardesh Barachota KKKandK Nangaparbat :)
Anything to circumvent Chowk`s prejudice against me.
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