Changing Muslim Hearts #36, {`` There are some moments of profound vision in American history. ``}

What a stupid imbecile. Most of the post is pure nonsense and does not require any comment. The above statement about profound vision needs to be examined thoroughly. Let`s see:

Annhilation of native Injuns
The Wild Wild West
Gun duels
Slavery
Civil War
Prohibition
Gang warfare
Manifest destiny
WW I, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Lebanon, Bosnia, Kossovo, Iraq I, Iraq II

Pakistan’s Choice Manto,
You once referred to Haroon beta as a budding McCarthy. Did you mean Joe or Jenny?

Pakistan’s Choice With Shankar`s Indorap, Mohar`s godliness, haroon`s McCarthyism, Manto`s disclaimers, Friend`s hostility, Romair`s stupidity, and Ajeya`s sermons, it is time for GODot to terminate this forum.
I am ashamed to breath the same oxygen with this crowd. :)
Salim

The Freedom of Empathy Chowk is the WRONG place to talk about freedom of expression. This site mimics Paki society in controlling viewpoints, repressing dissent, and erasing differing opinions.
Salim

Pardon, didn’t mean to kill you... #58, Nefertitty,
I agree! We shoud comdemn civilized behavior anywhere in the world. :)

Losing My Religion Romair #47,
Please take a look at Saminasha`s post below:

{``#78 by Saminasha on August 4, 2005 8:42am PT
Well...now that Salim Chuhan the Namard is on this board, this page is officially braindead. ``}


I REST MY CASE.

Salim

Losing My Religion #77, Dillidost,
Yes, I have been to Jaipur. I have several relatives there - both Hindu and Muslim. :)
Salim

Losing My Religion Dillidost #75.
No need to be sorry. I never take anything you say as a negative. You are narrating history and history is full of ironies. As far as denial of Hindu ancestry is concerned, I agree with you. Many Paki Muslims (even some Indian ones) think that admitting to Hindu ancestry is somehow degrading. I think it is the fascination with being a Shaikh, Syed, Mughal, or Pathan that is the root of the Muslims` problem. This phenomenon is found mostly in UP, Delhi, and Hyderabad. Somehow, descent from Arab, Persian, Afghan, Turk, or Mongol invaders is considered an element of superiority. I guess it is the Ashfrafi concept - noble vs converted. The same was true in Medina, where you had the Ansars (local converts) and Quraish (original Moose Limbs from Mecca).

I have managed to make Islam a very personal belief for myself. I do not associate myself with any Ummah and select my friends and associates based on personal considerations. I do not believe that all tall people are good, all short people are mean, all light people are sneaky, and all dark people are violent. These are stupid prejudices invented by simple-minded folks because they don`t have the mental ability to investigate further.

Thanks for interacting with me in such a polite and informative manner. I always appreciate your presence on Chowk.

Have a great evening.

Salim

Losing My Religion Nevertitti, #74,
Women have always been on the receiving end. They have always been the vessels, the receptacles, the bowl, the womb. It`s called Mother Nature - learn to live with it. :)
Just kidding. Wanted to get you riled up due to your pharoaic name.

Losing My Religion #71, Dilli,
I am only narrating what I have heard from my grandfather (dada) and several relatives in the Jaipur area. :)

Losing My Religion #70, Dillidost,
Thank you for the information concerning Hindu last names of Indo/Pak Muslims. In my own case, my ancestors fought the Ghoris and Delhi Sultanate and the early Mughals. They started serving Mughals after the time of Akbar and during the reign of Aurangzeb converted to Islam as a demonstration of their admiration and loyalty for that great Rajput Emperor. His bravery is still praised among my Rajput relatives. I think that is one reason why so many of my relatives are named after the Mughal/Rajput Emperors.
Salim Ahmed Chauhan

Pardon, didn’t mean to kill you... #56, Amazing how invasions can result in changes in hair color. Does Clairol know this?

Pardon, didn’t mean to kill you... #52, Arjun {``If you were red-headed, you were singled out for attention. Don`t ask me how that makes sense``}

Just one interesting trivial comment. The Irish were mostly dark-haired. Thanks to the Viking invasions, many Irish became members of the Red-Headed League, but that is an Arthur Conan Doyle problem. :)
Salim

Pakistan-Afghan Relations in Murky Waters babu #11,
After all the chest thumping is completed, both India and Pakistan will come to the realization that it is in the best interests of their nations and citizens to bury the hatchet. Economic cooperation, freedom of movement, and destruction of barriers will ultimately take over and we will all forget these ``bad old days.`` Religion should and will become a personal matter for individuals and no concern of the government. People will group themselves by economic, professional, and cultural affiliations rather than religious ones. Experience is the best teacher. The tolerant environment in the West and the US/Canada is a direct result of the horrors of religious persecutions and wars in Europe from the 15th, 16th, and 17th centuries - these gave rise to the Age of Reason in the 18th century.
Peace,
Salim

Losing My Religion #37, Simon {``#37 by Simon_Templar on August 3, 2005 6:24pm PT
Re: # 15 If you had ever been to Pakistan, you`d know that Chauhans
are dime a dozen there. They`re millions of them lolling around. Hate to
tell you, but you`re not that special.``}

I may not be special to you and that is OK with me, my friend. :)
Please don`t exaggerate - Chauhans and, for that matter not even Khans, are a ``dime a dozen.`` No one is that cheap and Pakis do not use dimes, at least not yet. When was the last time you were in Pakiland?
Salim

Losing My Religion #49, Burpinder, {``Chohan Driving School is one of the most popular place to get your driving lessons and license (often the same thing) in Mumbai`s western suburbs.

The proprietor, eerily enough is also called Salim!``}

Yes, teaching people how to drive is God`s work. In Mumbai it is the closest we come to emulating Mother Theresa. :)
Thanks,
Salim