Edward De Bono\'s Point C: Situtation in Pakistan
Malik Sahib,
Has Zardari Sahib ever heard of multi-tasking? Single-threaded operating systems and one-dimensional governments became extinct before most of us were born.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jul 14, 2008 02:17 pm
Faysal Malik {"Mr.Zardari, pro-establishment politicians and even some journalists have already started saying that real issue of this country is not restoration of Judges, its electricity and food shortage! If this power storage continues for next couple of months, what do you think will be your priority? Army back in the barracks? Pakistan back to democracy? Chief Justice back in Supreme Court? Or electricity back in your home? "}Malik Sahib,
Has Zardari Sahib ever heard of multi-tasking? Single-threaded operating systems and one-dimensional governments became extinct before most of us were born.
The Non-Existent Tourist’s Guide To Pakistan
Nadeem,
First of all, let me compliment you on some quite humorous and interesting passages. I did enjoy your witty and clever injection of satire - especially when you abruptly abandoned the continuity with disclaimers and used total nonsense as cover. Well done.
The only sensible man ever to be born with the name Hamid is our own Hamidumdum Sahib - Karzai is a foolish idiot bordering on totally gay appearance.
On the topic of NGOs, I have nothing against them except that I want most of them enslaved and then made to work long hours in Chinese massage parlors.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jul 14, 2008 02:15 pm
Nadeem Paracha {"The male-female ratio of the population is 50-50, even though, according to local traditions in the north, women do not exist. Only men and goats. Certain NGOs operating in the north want to change this perception and the locals have agreed only if the government of Pakistan declared women to be satanic abominations engineered by Hindu Fanatics, Christian Crusaders, Wily Jews and Hamid Karzai."}Nadeem,
First of all, let me compliment you on some quite humorous and interesting passages. I did enjoy your witty and clever injection of satire - especially when you abruptly abandoned the continuity with disclaimers and used total nonsense as cover. Well done.
The only sensible man ever to be born with the name Hamid is our own Hamidumdum Sahib - Karzai is a foolish idiot bordering on totally gay appearance.
On the topic of NGOs, I have nothing against them except that I want most of them enslaved and then made to work long hours in Chinese massage parlors.
A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations
It is a news to me that India and Pakistan were fighting their proxy war in Afghanistan since 1947. I know Russians wanted to reach Indian Ocean through Afghanistan ( Still can't understand how will they convince Pakistan ?)."}
Mkamd Sahib,
Elementary! Russians would have used the breakaway Baluch insurgency in Baluchistan to declare it "free" and then grab it in the name of the Baluchi people. They were using their Iraqi minions to carry out the subversion. The more amazing thing is what happened to the Soviets and more importantly what happened to the Iraqis?
It appears that the some RAW Indians have found the Soviet file on Baluchistan, dusted off the cover, and recycled it as innovative thinking against Pakistan.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jul 14, 2008 02:03 pm
{"#14 Posted by mkamd on July 13, 2008 7:44:29 pm It is a news to me that India and Pakistan were fighting their proxy war in Afghanistan since 1947. I know Russians wanted to reach Indian Ocean through Afghanistan ( Still can't understand how will they convince Pakistan ?)."}
Mkamd Sahib,
Elementary! Russians would have used the breakaway Baluch insurgency in Baluchistan to declare it "free" and then grab it in the name of the Baluchi people. They were using their Iraqi minions to carry out the subversion. The more amazing thing is what happened to the Soviets and more importantly what happened to the Iraqis?
It appears that the some RAW Indians have found the Soviet file on Baluchistan, dusted off the cover, and recycled it as innovative thinking against Pakistan.
A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations
Agha Sahib,
Unless you have incontrovertible evidence directly from the ISI, I cannot agree with your conclusion that Pakistan had anything to do with the sad demise of Mr. Mehta. The Tally Ban, who are busy killing people in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, have their own agenda. Helping out Pakistan in its issues against India is not paramount on their action items list.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jul 14, 2008 01:36 pm
Agha Amin {"Not a good omen for Pakistan and its people. Pakistan remains condemned to darkness and Mehta's assassination is another nail in Pakistan's coffin."}Agha Sahib,
Unless you have incontrovertible evidence directly from the ISI, I cannot agree with your conclusion that Pakistan had anything to do with the sad demise of Mr. Mehta. The Tally Ban, who are busy killing people in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, have their own agenda. Helping out Pakistan in its issues against India is not paramount on their action items list.
The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
{"Salim (real) bhai I am sorry I am confused with decoy nicks with real nicks i thaught this was some inposter "}
Shah Bhai Sahib,
You are right. There is a "Saleem_Chauhan" who is actually Stuckass trying to improve his appearance. :) No problem, I knew that you and I were friends.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 25, 2008 12:38 pm
#687 Posted by Shah2 on June 24, 2008 1:53:17 pm {"Salim (real) bhai I am sorry I am confused with decoy nicks with real nicks i thaught this was some inposter "}
Shah Bhai Sahib,
You are right. There is a "Saleem_Chauhan" who is actually Stuckass trying to improve his appearance. :) No problem, I knew that you and I were friends.
The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
{"Behen Chod Salim_Chauhan ,tere sangyta pehle se chud chuki hai bharwa "}
Shah Sahib - do number waaley!
I am perplexed about your reaction - and your vocabulary. Please advise what I may have done to merit your scorn? I used to retaliate with language that would impregnate my detractors' seven generations - but somehow I don't like to resort to that. So, please behave and we will all be happy - especially you, my friend.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 24, 2008 01:18 pm
#685 Posted by Shah2 on June 24, 2008 12:56:16 pm {"Behen Chod Salim_Chauhan ,tere sangyta pehle se chud chuki hai bharwa "}
Shah Sahib - do number waaley!
I am perplexed about your reaction - and your vocabulary. Please advise what I may have done to merit your scorn? I used to retaliate with language that would impregnate my detractors' seven generations - but somehow I don't like to resort to that. So, please behave and we will all be happy - especially you, my friend.
Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis
Salim (#196),
By your criterion, the world should remain indebted to Osama for opening their eyes to real Islam. So don’t complain if Muslims get demonized as violent jihadis across the world. It is a race to the bottom … and the ummah is wining!
Kulharee is playing you like a banjo and you are responding in a predictable, immature manner. And this proves his point! My take is that … by the 7th century camel’s ass prophet that the ummah is following … he is referring to Abu Jehal. If that’s the case, I fully agree with the analogy, though not with his choice of words.
Unfortunately it is the ummah that is getting the broomstick treatment. Stop obsessing over Ahmadis and open your eyes to ground realities, you fool."}
Sattar Sahib,
I have been quite polite in our discussion; I request some reciprocity from you, sir. I just want to know what you enemies of Islam used for fuel for the 1400 years before Osama made his debut? If the world demonizes Muslims for the rhetoric and actions of UBL, there is a justifiable reason for that. Anytime, anyone uses Islam as a pretext for his/her behavior, people have a right to question the motives. It's up to mainstream Muslims to understand, categorize, and then either approve such behavior or condemn it outright. It is a fact that most mainstream Muslims have openly refuted Alkayda and its tactics.
Your peculiar interpretation of Kulharee's "camel's ass" profanity makes you an apologist for this blasphemer and is further evidence of Qadianis providing cover for each other - sometimes even playing good cop/bad cop to confuse the real issues.
My eyes are open and I will do my best to counter the evil that Qadianis have tried to spread to harm Islam, the Holy Prophet (PBUH), and the cause of Muslims. It is not a coincidence that on almost every issue affecting Muslims, the Qadianis seem to side with the enemies of Islam.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 24, 2008 01:00 pm
#198 Posted by sattar2 on June 24, 2008 11:41:43 am Salim (#196),
By your criterion, the world should remain indebted to Osama for opening their eyes to real Islam. So don’t complain if Muslims get demonized as violent jihadis across the world. It is a race to the bottom … and the ummah is wining!
Kulharee is playing you like a banjo and you are responding in a predictable, immature manner. And this proves his point! My take is that … by the 7th century camel’s ass prophet that the ummah is following … he is referring to Abu Jehal. If that’s the case, I fully agree with the analogy, though not with his choice of words.
Unfortunately it is the ummah that is getting the broomstick treatment. Stop obsessing over Ahmadis and open your eyes to ground realities, you fool."}
Sattar Sahib,
I have been quite polite in our discussion; I request some reciprocity from you, sir. I just want to know what you enemies of Islam used for fuel for the 1400 years before Osama made his debut? If the world demonizes Muslims for the rhetoric and actions of UBL, there is a justifiable reason for that. Anytime, anyone uses Islam as a pretext for his/her behavior, people have a right to question the motives. It's up to mainstream Muslims to understand, categorize, and then either approve such behavior or condemn it outright. It is a fact that most mainstream Muslims have openly refuted Alkayda and its tactics.
Your peculiar interpretation of Kulharee's "camel's ass" profanity makes you an apologist for this blasphemer and is further evidence of Qadianis providing cover for each other - sometimes even playing good cop/bad cop to confuse the real issues.
My eyes are open and I will do my best to counter the evil that Qadianis have tried to spread to harm Islam, the Holy Prophet (PBUH), and the cause of Muslims. It is not a coincidence that on almost every issue affecting Muslims, the Qadianis seem to side with the enemies of Islam.
The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
{"No attempt shall be made by a non-Muslim to resemble a Muslim in any way"}
Now, this Ommayyad Caliph, Umar II, was a visionary and a man much before his time - almost as foresighted as Hazrat Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Marhoom. :)
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 24, 2008 11:26 am
#682 Posted by laddu on June 24, 2008 9:53:28 am {"No attempt shall be made by a non-Muslim to resemble a Muslim in any way"}
Now, this Ommayyad Caliph, Umar II, was a visionary and a man much before his time - almost as foresighted as Hazrat Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Marhoom. :)
Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis
{"...Chuhay, ...Your brain is still stuck in 6th century Arabia, and you think like a monkey. I believe that my prophet of Allah Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad came to reform Islam, ... Trust me, Ahmadis are not going to believe in garbage like Jesus coming down on a broomstick and landing in Damascus."}
Mr. Kulharee,
If you do not seek immediate and expert attention for your Tourette Syndrome affliction, rest assured that someday someone is going to find a more suitable use for that broomstick and it might get very painful for you. Shalom!
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 24, 2008 10:20 am
#195 Posted by Kulharee on June 23, 2008 8:06:46 pm {"...Chuhay, ...Your brain is still stuck in 6th century Arabia, and you think like a monkey. I believe that my prophet of Allah Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad came to reform Islam, ... Trust me, Ahmadis are not going to believe in garbage like Jesus coming down on a broomstick and landing in Damascus."}
Mr. Kulharee,
If you do not seek immediate and expert attention for your Tourette Syndrome affliction, rest assured that someday someone is going to find a more suitable use for that broomstick and it might get very painful for you. Shalom!
Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis
Salim (#190),
You are getting too obsessed with kulharee. ... Your view is childish and based on insecurities. Ahmadi-Muslims are not your problem. Ummah’s problem are goons like Osama, zeemax, and Urstruly … all too bent on blowing others up. Open your eyes, you idiot! Like I said, in some ways you used to be an intelligent man …"}
Sattar Sahib,
I have about as "thick a skull" and am as much an "idiot" as your Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is a "prophet" of Allah. Just because you pontificate something doesn't automatically make it accurate.
I am, however, indebted to Mr. Kulharee for opening my eyes regarding the "innocence" of the Qadianis. You may consider him an idiot and an embarrassment, but to many Muslims like me, he has decisively explained why the Government and people of Pakistan were justified in declaring the Qadianis to be non-Muslim.
Thank you for discussing this issue with me.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 24, 2008 10:13 am
#193 Posted by sattar2 on June 23, 2008 4:40:34 pm Salim (#190),
You are getting too obsessed with kulharee. ... Your view is childish and based on insecurities. Ahmadi-Muslims are not your problem. Ummah’s problem are goons like Osama, zeemax, and Urstruly … all too bent on blowing others up. Open your eyes, you idiot! Like I said, in some ways you used to be an intelligent man …"}
Sattar Sahib,
I have about as "thick a skull" and am as much an "idiot" as your Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is a "prophet" of Allah. Just because you pontificate something doesn't automatically make it accurate.
I am, however, indebted to Mr. Kulharee for opening my eyes regarding the "innocence" of the Qadianis. You may consider him an idiot and an embarrassment, but to many Muslims like me, he has decisively explained why the Government and people of Pakistan were justified in declaring the Qadianis to be non-Muslim.
Thank you for discussing this issue with me.
The Puppet Speaks
{"you're bragging about what will happen in the future...
if wishes were horses, pakis would ride... "}
Arjun,
And you are stuck in the recent past recycling the stale mantra of the neo-cons. Soon you will go the way of Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and others. When Cheney's cousin gets inaugurated, you guys will see a marked difference about the way a responsible President conducts foreign policy. Ride 'em shoot 'em days are over and a new sheriff is coming to town. I am predicting the future.
...and BTW, the shine in "India Shining" is also over inflated.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 24, 2008 10:00 am
#30 Posted by _arjun5 on June 23, 2008 4:25:39 pm {"you're bragging about what will happen in the future...
if wishes were horses, pakis would ride... "}
Arjun,
And you are stuck in the recent past recycling the stale mantra of the neo-cons. Soon you will go the way of Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and others. When Cheney's cousin gets inaugurated, you guys will see a marked difference about the way a responsible President conducts foreign policy. Ride 'em shoot 'em days are over and a new sheriff is coming to town. I am predicting the future.
...and BTW, the shine in "India Shining" is also over inflated.
The Puppet Speaks
{"indians aren't being whacked by drones...indians aren't being sold to club gitmo.. "}
Arjun,
Wait till Modi ends up in De Hague. Kaheen ka din kaheen ki raat. :)
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 23, 2008 03:16 pm
#28 Posted by _arjun5 on June 23, 2008 3:06:16 pm {"indians aren't being whacked by drones...indians aren't being sold to club gitmo.. "}
Arjun,
Wait till Modi ends up in De Hague. Kaheen ka din kaheen ki raat. :)
Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis
Posted by Kulharee on Monday June 23, 2008 02:59 pm
Fuck you Mr. Chuhay and a lot of 6th century Arbi Camel lovers.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 23, 2008 03:10 pm
...and here is Mr. Kulharee's reaction to my post #190. He posted his comment on my ilog:Posted by Kulharee on Monday June 23, 2008 02:59 pm
Fuck you Mr. Chuhay and a lot of 6th century Arbi Camel lovers.
The Puppet Speaks
{"Harishbhai,
Our PM is a puppet too.
Regards "}
MAJ Bhai,
You are so right about that one. One of the compelling reasons for Mushy to bend over for Bushy was the spectacle of Swifty Vajpayee doing the can can for the Americans with his dhoti lifted all the wap up to his lips.
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 23, 2008 03:01 pm
#14 Posted by majumdar on June 23, 2008 2:34:08 am {"Harishbhai,
Our PM is a puppet too.
Regards "}
MAJ Bhai,
You are so right about that one. One of the compelling reasons for Mushy to bend over for Bushy was the spectacle of Swifty Vajpayee doing the can can for the Americans with his dhoti lifted all the wap up to his lips.
The Puppet Speaks
Naqvi Sahib,
Very well-written article with some sound advice for the colorful Karzai. How soon has he forgotten his debt to the land that provided shelter and aid to him and his people during the Communist occupation! Does he remember that India never opposed that Soviet invasion of Afaghanistan?
Posted by
Salim_Chauhan
Jun 23, 2008 02:59 pm
{"It may not make much sense to President Karzai but he should understand that blindly towing the line of the US is not good for the fragile peace and stability of the region. In the long run, it is also not in the interest of Afghanistan that is connected to Pakistan with ethnic, cultural and geographical bonds."}Naqvi Sahib,
Very well-written article with some sound advice for the colorful Karzai. How soon has he forgotten his debt to the land that provided shelter and aid to him and his people during the Communist occupation! Does he remember that India never opposed that Soviet invasion of Afaghanistan?
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