Long Live the King: Musharraf’s Controversial Legacy
Coming to ZAB if he was not so megalomaniac and had genuinely forged a social coalition and not gone in for the disastrous nationalisation he could have f***ed India inside out.
The Pak establishment has always had a dream to plant the crescent flag on the red fort. Indian establishment has no such dream except maybe brasstacks.
Maybe the pakis are more incompetent than us though god knows the kind of jokers we have leading the country are enough to start a chain of circuses.
Sanatani
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Sanatani
Aug 21, 2008 08:55 am
I think in India there is lack of gratitude towards the Pak army and ZAB. They have done to Pak what India never could.Coming to ZAB if he was not so megalomaniac and had genuinely forged a social coalition and not gone in for the disastrous nationalisation he could have f***ed India inside out.
The Pak establishment has always had a dream to plant the crescent flag on the red fort. Indian establishment has no such dream except maybe brasstacks.
Maybe the pakis are more incompetent than us though god knows the kind of jokers we have leading the country are enough to start a chain of circuses.
Sanatani
17 August 1988
I find this hard to believe but will take your word for it.
But somehow subtle interaction with Foreign Millitary attaches in Delhi and Amman left me with entirely a different perspective.
Casualties in Kargil in Officers was nowhere close to Indians and neither in any of the other 3 wars. It has no history of strategically imaginative ops like Siachen (which incidentally was concieved at the battalion level confirmed at brigade and hen cleared at AHQ).
Also unlike the Prussians the only other army with a state the Pak army has never had an extremely high personal code of conduct moral, ethical and profesional as defined by the existing times.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Aug 21, 2008 07:39 am
Re: # 22I find this hard to believe but will take your word for it.
But somehow subtle interaction with Foreign Millitary attaches in Delhi and Amman left me with entirely a different perspective.
Casualties in Kargil in Officers was nowhere close to Indians and neither in any of the other 3 wars. It has no history of strategically imaginative ops like Siachen (which incidentally was concieved at the battalion level confirmed at brigade and hen cleared at AHQ).
Also unlike the Prussians the only other army with a state the Pak army has never had an extremely high personal code of conduct moral, ethical and profesional as defined by the existing times.
Sanatani
17 August 1988
Having said that the calibre of the Indian army's officer corp is good but not gr8 due to the same reasons mentioned here. However in the Indian army the calibre of some officers is exceptional the kind apart from the Israelis no one has. It is painful to say this but the calibre of the Indian army's Muslim officers is frighteningly great i.e. on a ratio basis they (no of great to good to useless) are the best in the Indian army better than the Maratha, Sikh, Jat, Dogra and Madrasis. I am not including Rajputs as while uniformly brave they lack the killer instinct of the above mentioned few.
And the reason is not surprising the Only Muslims who ruled in India are the Bhaiya Muslims and the one off amongst them who joins the army does only and only out of patriotism.
It is any wonder that Zaki and Jamil Mahmood (incidentally the youngest ever Lt General in the Indian army who tragically died in a helicopter crash and would otherwise have made chief)are universally revered officers in the army.
Our problem is that our (political leadership) is lacking testicular fortitude towards people generally lacking testicular fortitude.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Aug 19, 2008 12:44 pm
In my post to my Bhra Zeemax I had said that the avrage Panju muslai is fit only to be a subedar and that too a crude boorish thuggish bully. Pavo has confirmed my opinion that the Bak army lacks calibre in their officers. This was told to me by a retired Indian army officer who was unofficially shown a report made by the Israelis on the Pak army much before Zia's death. This is what had prompted brasstacks and had it succeeded the rogue nation would have ceased to exist in it present form. (CIA had a high level mole in the Indian army and tipped Bak off).Having said that the calibre of the Indian army's officer corp is good but not gr8 due to the same reasons mentioned here. However in the Indian army the calibre of some officers is exceptional the kind apart from the Israelis no one has. It is painful to say this but the calibre of the Indian army's Muslim officers is frighteningly great i.e. on a ratio basis they (no of great to good to useless) are the best in the Indian army better than the Maratha, Sikh, Jat, Dogra and Madrasis. I am not including Rajputs as while uniformly brave they lack the killer instinct of the above mentioned few.
And the reason is not surprising the Only Muslims who ruled in India are the Bhaiya Muslims and the one off amongst them who joins the army does only and only out of patriotism.
It is any wonder that Zaki and Jamil Mahmood (incidentally the youngest ever Lt General in the Indian army who tragically died in a helicopter crash and would otherwise have made chief)are universally revered officers in the army.
Our problem is that our (political leadership) is lacking testicular fortitude towards people generally lacking testicular fortitude.
Sanatani
It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India
We need to do something about it and that something is deislamisation. Exactly what the choice Muslais gave to Hindus must be returned leave Islam or Die even expulsion is not an option.
Santani
Posted by
Sanatani
Aug 19, 2008 01:43 am
I will repeat ad nauseaum the problem is not Muslims it is Islam.We need to do something about it and that something is deislamisation. Exactly what the choice Muslais gave to Hindus must be returned leave Islam or Die even expulsion is not an option.
Santani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Kyon pai Hamidya,
Main ki galt gal kar ditti.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 11, 2008 08:11 am
Re: # 130Kyon pai Hamidya,
Main ki galt gal kar ditti.
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Do we need temple for Lord Rama? Yes most certainly
I don't think it should be one of the primary areas of concern for any Indian. What should it be "Secularism" as defined by the 4M Media brigade (please refer sabha.info for what is 4M)
I disrespect the level of intellect of cow belt people ya unlike you intelectul Bangalis who elect commies who supported China and Stalin and every 2 bit commie despot the world over and actually spearhead the infiltration of traitors and 5th columnists in the country.
FYI Advani is just a cog in the Ram Mandir movement and not the movement itself. According to recorded history of Muslims and British this struggle has been going on for more than 350 years. (350 yrs of recorded struggle).
you can not unite entire nation under the banner of Lord Rama. You can if that fkstrd Advani had listened to the Baudhik Panch Pandavas Shri Rama Swarupji, Shri Sitaramji Goel, Shri Arun Shourie, Shri Harsh Narain and Shri Koenraad Elst. Instead he chose to listen to that imbecile nincompoop Pramod Mahajan and that Pompous Windbag as described by Shri Sitaramji Goel AB Vajpai.
Read about Dr SP Mukherjee before you make any comments on him
AND FINALLY YOU SOOOOB:
IF IT WERE NOT FOR Dr SP Mukherjee me and many of my ilk WOULD SAY AND SAY LOUDLY:
THROWN BENGAL OUT OF THE UNION.
Fk u
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 11, 2008 04:56 am
Re: # 127Do we need temple for Lord Rama? Yes most certainly
I don't think it should be one of the primary areas of concern for any Indian. What should it be "Secularism" as defined by the 4M Media brigade (please refer sabha.info for what is 4M)
I disrespect the level of intellect of cow belt people ya unlike you intelectul Bangalis who elect commies who supported China and Stalin and every 2 bit commie despot the world over and actually spearhead the infiltration of traitors and 5th columnists in the country.
FYI Advani is just a cog in the Ram Mandir movement and not the movement itself. According to recorded history of Muslims and British this struggle has been going on for more than 350 years. (350 yrs of recorded struggle).
you can not unite entire nation under the banner of Lord Rama. You can if that fkstrd Advani had listened to the Baudhik Panch Pandavas Shri Rama Swarupji, Shri Sitaramji Goel, Shri Arun Shourie, Shri Harsh Narain and Shri Koenraad Elst. Instead he chose to listen to that imbecile nincompoop Pramod Mahajan and that Pompous Windbag as described by Shri Sitaramji Goel AB Vajpai.
Read about Dr SP Mukherjee before you make any comments on him
AND FINALLY YOU SOOOOB:
IF IT WERE NOT FOR Dr SP Mukherjee me and many of my ilk WOULD SAY AND SAY LOUDLY:
THROWN BENGAL OUT OF THE UNION.
Fk u
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Tahmed does not believe the shit the Jihadists peddle.
But u on the other hand do believe what their cousins peddle.
And do u also believe in the tooth fairy that is setting of bombs across India.
The pickpocket and defeatist mentality of Hindus desperate to clutch at straws as the truth does not suit them.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 10, 2008 10:04 am
Re: # 95Tahmed does not believe the shit the Jihadists peddle.
But u on the other hand do believe what their cousins peddle.
And do u also believe in the tooth fairy that is setting of bombs across India.
The pickpocket and defeatist mentality of Hindus desperate to clutch at straws as the truth does not suit them.
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
VRV very well written with an IQ of 50 you are able to write almost equal to one who has an IQ of 75 i.e. an idiot.
How do u manage to produce such gems, please share the secret?
The problem with Bharat Mata that she has sons like u some serving is in RAW, IB, MI, defenece and foreign ministries.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 10, 2008 09:44 am
Re: # 71VRV very well written with an IQ of 50 you are able to write almost equal to one who has an IQ of 75 i.e. an idiot.
How do u manage to produce such gems, please share the secret?
The problem with Bharat Mata that she has sons like u some serving is in RAW, IB, MI, defenece and foreign ministries.
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
What is foolish about Shri Bhagwan Ramchnadraji Mandir movement u dirtbag bangali.
After Dr SP Mukherjee and Ashutosh Lahiri we get pieces of shit like u.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 10, 2008 09:36 am
Re: # 66What is foolish about Shri Bhagwan Ramchnadraji Mandir movement u dirtbag bangali.
After Dr SP Mukherjee and Ashutosh Lahiri we get pieces of shit like u.
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Who is the Hindu hardliner apart from me?
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 10, 2008 09:03 am
Re: # 58Who is the Hindu hardliner apart from me?
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
She is not human so the adjective used is pointless.
She is a lying piece of shit, a traitress and vermin.
In any half decent country she would be shot.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 10, 2008 08:51 am
Re: # 49She is not human so the adjective used is pointless.
She is a lying piece of shit, a traitress and vermin.
In any half decent country she would be shot.
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Zee bhaiya,
dont f***k with Stuka or you are going to feel like the french cavalry commanders on the maginot line.
Just a friendly piece of advice posted in complete Panjabi bhaichara.
Now pls answer his questions regarding Panju Kahmiri etc.
I will also pose 1 of my own. When is the last time u heard a mirpuri a balti a ladakhi a chitrali a gilgiti or a Punchi describe himself as Kashmiri? The Gujjars call themselves Gujjars and look down at the Mughals neither of whom calls himself Kashmiri but go and talk to a Pandit whose surname ends with OO who after 350 yrs in Hyderabad calls himself a Kashmiri Pandit and is endogamous with women of the same caste who follow those ancient rituals followed from maybe 2,000 + years thus validating his claim to call himself the same. Why we can say that is because our genealogical records are kept by Brahmins at Matan, Hardwar, Kashi, Ujjain, Prayag and Nashik, unlike your creed who are jutt or gujjar or choorha or shoodar (not to stukla muslais can be called choor or shoodar) but claim descent from the peadophile murderer.
And no despite what Stuka says u will not get any more of Indian territory though if u got Kashmir you wll get 3/4ths of all of Salim Chauhans Indian cousins (Bangla will get the rest 1/4th). Be careful what you wish for.
You Panjabi Bhra
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 10, 2008 08:44 am
Re: # 34Zee bhaiya,
dont f***k with Stuka or you are going to feel like the french cavalry commanders on the maginot line.
Just a friendly piece of advice posted in complete Panjabi bhaichara.
Now pls answer his questions regarding Panju Kahmiri etc.
I will also pose 1 of my own. When is the last time u heard a mirpuri a balti a ladakhi a chitrali a gilgiti or a Punchi describe himself as Kashmiri? The Gujjars call themselves Gujjars and look down at the Mughals neither of whom calls himself Kashmiri but go and talk to a Pandit whose surname ends with OO who after 350 yrs in Hyderabad calls himself a Kashmiri Pandit and is endogamous with women of the same caste who follow those ancient rituals followed from maybe 2,000 + years thus validating his claim to call himself the same. Why we can say that is because our genealogical records are kept by Brahmins at Matan, Hardwar, Kashi, Ujjain, Prayag and Nashik, unlike your creed who are jutt or gujjar or choorha or shoodar (not to stukla muslais can be called choor or shoodar) but claim descent from the peadophile murderer.
And no despite what Stuka says u will not get any more of Indian territory though if u got Kashmir you wll get 3/4ths of all of Salim Chauhans Indian cousins (Bangla will get the rest 1/4th). Be careful what you wish for.
You Panjabi Bhra
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Stuke,
chootha farh ditian. It seems to me there are no East Punjabi muslais all are Kashews. bTW the Kashmiri Hindus even though settled as far as Hyderabad can be called authentic Kashmiri as the accent was the only thing they lost was their accent not their language, traditions etc. except renegades like motilal nehru.
That other PRI (paki resident of India) MJ Akbar claimed similar descent about his mothers parents who were from Gurdaspur.
At a party when I quizzed him a liitle he turned sour and walked away. When I persisted with him on his book riot after riot on his statement that it is not what is true but what the sentiments of a people are about documenting the Moradabad riot in 1981 when a pig strayed opnto a muslai prayer meeting and the muslais charged at the cops leading to firing and over a 100 deaths and asked him to juxtapose the same to Hindus over the cow he could not debate became abusive and walked out]
This paragon of Indianness recently lectured the Hindus on what Indianness is about and how they should accept and accomodate the aspirations of muslais which was their right and not a favour.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 10, 2008 08:26 am
Re: # 29Stuke,
chootha farh ditian. It seems to me there are no East Punjabi muslais all are Kashews. bTW the Kashmiri Hindus even though settled as far as Hyderabad can be called authentic Kashmiri as the accent was the only thing they lost was their accent not their language, traditions etc. except renegades like motilal nehru.
That other PRI (paki resident of India) MJ Akbar claimed similar descent about his mothers parents who were from Gurdaspur.
At a party when I quizzed him a liitle he turned sour and walked away. When I persisted with him on his book riot after riot on his statement that it is not what is true but what the sentiments of a people are about documenting the Moradabad riot in 1981 when a pig strayed opnto a muslai prayer meeting and the muslais charged at the cops leading to firing and over a 100 deaths and asked him to juxtapose the same to Hindus over the cow he could not debate became abusive and walked out]
This paragon of Indianness recently lectured the Hindus on what Indianness is about and how they should accept and accomodate the aspirations of muslais which was their right and not a favour.
Sanatani
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Boss I am also obessesed by identity that of a Hindu, to keep this identity we sacrificed everything in West Punjab but it was no sacrifice in the end (except the kiilng of our family members and the rape and abduction of some of our women but then that again was the price we paid for being Hindu and following that bas-turd gandhi) as we kept "our identity" as Hindus.
My problem is that how dare, (now that the sacred motherland Shri Bharat Mata has been vivisected to accomadate these converts) that we allow this stinking jihadi biatch to flaunt an islamic identity to us.
BTW this was our and of the Sindhi Amils point of friction with the Khalsa when they (all this pre 1900) said a Sikh identity was the Khalsa and incompatible with being called Hindu (the Tat Khalsa) when it came to choice for all our revernce for the Granths and the Gurus (which was then and is unchanged so today) and the fact that all our important ceremonies are done by Sikh rites (birth death marriage) we could not give up our identity as Hindus and in my personal case the love of idol worship the only reason I did not baptise any one other than my eldest son in the Khalsa.
So pls do not underestimate IDENTITY it is the bedrock which is the Sine Qua Non of our existence if our lives are extiguished it is OK not our identity.
Regards
Sanatani
P.S. On my relatives following gandhi is sad and shameful and we paid the price in full measure as did the nation.
If u see the movie Pinjar and see Alok nath's character well one of my grand uncles was like that and I say with gr8 relish that I caused his early death by shredding his Gandhian dignity to pieces by showing him his falsehood.
DM is such a character
Posted by
Sanatani
Jul 10, 2008 01:45 am
Re: # 16Boss I am also obessesed by identity that of a Hindu, to keep this identity we sacrificed everything in West Punjab but it was no sacrifice in the end (except the kiilng of our family members and the rape and abduction of some of our women but then that again was the price we paid for being Hindu and following that bas-turd gandhi) as we kept "our identity" as Hindus.
My problem is that how dare, (now that the sacred motherland Shri Bharat Mata has been vivisected to accomadate these converts) that we allow this stinking jihadi biatch to flaunt an islamic identity to us.
BTW this was our and of the Sindhi Amils point of friction with the Khalsa when they (all this pre 1900) said a Sikh identity was the Khalsa and incompatible with being called Hindu (the Tat Khalsa) when it came to choice for all our revernce for the Granths and the Gurus (which was then and is unchanged so today) and the fact that all our important ceremonies are done by Sikh rites (birth death marriage) we could not give up our identity as Hindus and in my personal case the love of idol worship the only reason I did not baptise any one other than my eldest son in the Khalsa.
So pls do not underestimate IDENTITY it is the bedrock which is the Sine Qua Non of our existence if our lives are extiguished it is OK not our identity.
Regards
Sanatani
P.S. On my relatives following gandhi is sad and shameful and we paid the price in full measure as did the nation.
If u see the movie Pinjar and see Alok nath's character well one of my grand uncles was like that and I say with gr8 relish that I caused his early death by shredding his Gandhian dignity to pieces by showing him his falsehood.
DM is such a character
The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
Banu Hamza Banu Quraizah and the 3rd Jewish tribe.
Do you remember what happened to them.
You did not reply on the Bhatiji/Bhanji issue you could change ur name to T Ali after that
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jun 25, 2008 07:28 pm
Re: # 721Banu Hamza Banu Quraizah and the 3rd Jewish tribe.
Do you remember what happened to them.
You did not reply on the Bhatiji/Bhanji issue you could change ur name to T Ali after that
Sanatani
Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
Very honest Tahir.
"I waste my time quoting a fact book" and you waste ur time quoting a pice of filth not fit even to be used as toilet paper and follwing a peadophile murderer forgetting ur 5,000 yr old glorious heritage.
Try the side-winders of a genuime Muslim. The sidewinder is an America missile and genuime muslai is quoting that. Better and better.
Why do you insist on calling those raving lunatics messengers of god.
The challenge however still on "Accept or do I put examples."
The Arabs may not have been Hindus but were Pagans and much more superior to the current lot.
Vaise ek rakhe hua launde ke followers ter jaise he ho sakte hai.
Khadija Malkin aur mohammed uska rakhelu launda.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Jun 21, 2008 10:13 am
Oh please go waste your time quoting gems from your fact-book.Very honest Tahir.
"I waste my time quoting a fact book" and you waste ur time quoting a pice of filth not fit even to be used as toilet paper and follwing a peadophile murderer forgetting ur 5,000 yr old glorious heritage.
Try the side-winders of a genuime Muslim. The sidewinder is an America missile and genuime muslai is quoting that. Better and better.
Why do you insist on calling those raving lunatics messengers of god.
The challenge however still on "Accept or do I put examples."
The Arabs may not have been Hindus but were Pagans and much more superior to the current lot.
Vaise ek rakhe hua launde ke followers ter jaise he ho sakte hai.
Khadija Malkin aur mohammed uska rakhelu launda.
Sanatani
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