Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice
Abe Manto Chod de,
Yeh sab hamare desh ke Gandhu wadi choootieeya hai.
For the record:
1) The kasturba thing is true.
2) His children hated him he could not become father to his own children and became father of our nation.
3) He was a faddist having bizzare notions of what constitutes truth and he did experiments with the same like Shri CV Raman did with various lab apparati. The chief way of doing these experiments were with other people lives like if I want to learn surgery without the benefit of a teacher and use live human beings e.g. the hapless Hindus massacred in the Moplah riots.
4) That he was a racist and a caste bigot is well known. His championing of the obonoxious Tamil Brahmin practices was shocking to say the least.
5) What is not well known is his megalomania the need to be leader of all at any cost. His fight with Netaji is well known. The fact he let Bhagat Singh hang when he could have saved him. His assuming leadership of all Indians when there was a passionate opposition to him from a great majority cutting accross caste and religion.
6) There was no gr8 moral imperative in the 1st world war. Yet he behaved as a recruiting sargeant of the Brits in the same when men like Veer Savarkar, Lala Hardayal etc. braved odds to fight the brits in any way they could. In the second world war where there was gr8 moral imperative that of defeating National Socialism he ended up peddling bizzare theories like the Jews should voluntarily go to their deaths smiling.
If the above does not show a perverse mentality I would wonder what does. If your country suffers from following a peadophile murderer at least it is because you are brainwashed into believing him as an apostle of god, I wonder what our excuse is of following a man who not only made fanciful interpretaions of our holy books but insulted our heroes.
In short Gandhi was a bizzare sort of a human vermin whos succesfully peddled a lot of snake oil to a large sections of our society and these idiots have bought it as the elixir of eternal life.
You do not know the bizzareness of some more of his followers like Mashruwala and his anti Vanaspati movement. Yes that is anti Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil movement. Google it and see if links come out you will be shocked out of your wits as to what Gandhianism is about?
Long live Shri J ling Live partition tis a pity we could not send all our muslai on a one way ticket across the border.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 24, 2008 05:32 am
Re: # 194Abe Manto Chod de,
Yeh sab hamare desh ke Gandhu wadi choootieeya hai.
For the record:
1) The kasturba thing is true.
2) His children hated him he could not become father to his own children and became father of our nation.
3) He was a faddist having bizzare notions of what constitutes truth and he did experiments with the same like Shri CV Raman did with various lab apparati. The chief way of doing these experiments were with other people lives like if I want to learn surgery without the benefit of a teacher and use live human beings e.g. the hapless Hindus massacred in the Moplah riots.
4) That he was a racist and a caste bigot is well known. His championing of the obonoxious Tamil Brahmin practices was shocking to say the least.
5) What is not well known is his megalomania the need to be leader of all at any cost. His fight with Netaji is well known. The fact he let Bhagat Singh hang when he could have saved him. His assuming leadership of all Indians when there was a passionate opposition to him from a great majority cutting accross caste and religion.
6) There was no gr8 moral imperative in the 1st world war. Yet he behaved as a recruiting sargeant of the Brits in the same when men like Veer Savarkar, Lala Hardayal etc. braved odds to fight the brits in any way they could. In the second world war where there was gr8 moral imperative that of defeating National Socialism he ended up peddling bizzare theories like the Jews should voluntarily go to their deaths smiling.
If the above does not show a perverse mentality I would wonder what does. If your country suffers from following a peadophile murderer at least it is because you are brainwashed into believing him as an apostle of god, I wonder what our excuse is of following a man who not only made fanciful interpretaions of our holy books but insulted our heroes.
In short Gandhi was a bizzare sort of a human vermin whos succesfully peddled a lot of snake oil to a large sections of our society and these idiots have bought it as the elixir of eternal life.
You do not know the bizzareness of some more of his followers like Mashruwala and his anti Vanaspati movement. Yes that is anti Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil movement. Google it and see if links come out you will be shocked out of your wits as to what Gandhianism is about?
Long live Shri J ling Live partition tis a pity we could not send all our muslai on a one way ticket across the border.
Sanatani
Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries
Brilliant! absolutely brilliant.
However one caveat the dhoti clad Brahmin was not a gora bootlicker the way the Maulvi was. Indeed more than three fourths of those who died on the gallows or as martyrs were Brahmins.
Amongst Hindus the bootlickers were Thakurs (Hindu Rajputs of the bhaiya belt), Bhumihars, Kayasths, Baniyas and Khatris both Punjabi and UP. Amongst Brahmins the only bootlickers were Kashmiri Pandits or Lolas.
Tis a pity that one of them became our PM and f***ed our country.
The more I read history the more I am convinced that it was Nehru and Gandhi who screwed hindu muslim relations. Gandhi due to Khilafat and Nehru due to his so called insistence that he knew Muslims better than Shri J Sahib. In his atheism he forgot that while an atheist could be a hero for Hindus or Sikhs never for muslims.
Their insistence of being leaders of Muslims created the whole problem and given madar das gandhu's fetishes one can see once the communal genie was let out it could not come back.
Anyway thanks to Shri J parition happened and we could all have lived happily afterwards had the exchange of population happened that it did not will mean civil war in India sooner rather than later.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 17, 2008 05:46 am
Re: # 266Brilliant! absolutely brilliant.
However one caveat the dhoti clad Brahmin was not a gora bootlicker the way the Maulvi was. Indeed more than three fourths of those who died on the gallows or as martyrs were Brahmins.
Amongst Hindus the bootlickers were Thakurs (Hindu Rajputs of the bhaiya belt), Bhumihars, Kayasths, Baniyas and Khatris both Punjabi and UP. Amongst Brahmins the only bootlickers were Kashmiri Pandits or Lolas.
Tis a pity that one of them became our PM and f***ed our country.
The more I read history the more I am convinced that it was Nehru and Gandhi who screwed hindu muslim relations. Gandhi due to Khilafat and Nehru due to his so called insistence that he knew Muslims better than Shri J Sahib. In his atheism he forgot that while an atheist could be a hero for Hindus or Sikhs never for muslims.
Their insistence of being leaders of Muslims created the whole problem and given madar das gandhu's fetishes one can see once the communal genie was let out it could not come back.
Anyway thanks to Shri J parition happened and we could all have lived happily afterwards had the exchange of population happened that it did not will mean civil war in India sooner rather than later.
Sanatani
Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries
Sattar2,
You keep on repeating this line:
"I am the last prophet, and this mosque of mine is the last mosque".
Ok you tell us what doe it mean.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 17, 2008 04:28 am
Re: # 218Sattar2,
You keep on repeating this line:
"I am the last prophet, and this mosque of mine is the last mosque".
Ok you tell us what doe it mean.
Sanatani
Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries
Urstruly,
what does your post mean????
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 17, 2008 04:22 am
Re: # 209Urstruly,
what does your post mean????
Sanatani
Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries
Echoboom sahib hilarious. Please paste more such gems here.
Maybe HamidM can treat us to Allah and Gaby series with them discussing Mirza.
Also in a religion as doctrinaire as Islam what do you think about whether Shias do (on a theological basis) qualify as muslims. My own understanding (while neither shallow is also not very deep) is that they do not.
Shall await your comments and facts in support of views.
Why I do not feel them muslims as their revernce for the Pajhtain is actually idolatory, which Islam forbids.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 17, 2008 01:37 am
Re: # 114Echoboom sahib hilarious. Please paste more such gems here.
Maybe HamidM can treat us to Allah and Gaby series with them discussing Mirza.
Also in a religion as doctrinaire as Islam what do you think about whether Shias do (on a theological basis) qualify as muslims. My own understanding (while neither shallow is also not very deep) is that they do not.
Shall await your comments and facts in support of views.
Why I do not feel them muslims as their revernce for the Pajhtain is actually idolatory, which Islam forbids.
Sanatani
I Spy Hindutva
But unfortunately Hindus never understand enlightned self interest.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 13, 2008 12:02 am
Also if we have to fight this sort of casteism (I believe in caste but not caste pride and esp not one that is detrimental to any other caste) it has to be done by religous or cultural groups and not by so-called progressives.But unfortunately Hindus never understand enlightned self interest.
Sanatani
I Spy Hindutva
Vengat,
For a commie sometimes you do speak the truth.
It reminds me of a trip to a village in west UP when I told the Brahmins. Rajputs, Jats and Gujjars there that well as an outsider I saw no difference in their hygeine level and that of the Chamars and other Dalits in that village with the exception that the Dalits at least did a lot to clean up will they only spread dirt and if the Chamars were untouchables so were they in my eyes.
It nearly got me lynched but the message went home. The marriage dinner was eaten with the Dalits also sitting down with all in the same line instead of 2 rows back except they had to lift and clean their plates after the same.
But it was profoundly enlightening to one's thought process. Why I did not get lynched and why were they allowed to sit down. That was because there was some groundswell of support for such a move amongst the locals but lacked courage to do so openly, when I acted as a catalyst they coalesced behind me.
But sorry to say (it is of course second hand info told by a friend) from what I have heard in TN in either the Vanniyar or the Thevar belt to do so would be suicide.
Santani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 12, 2008 11:48 pm
Re: # 102Vengat,
For a commie sometimes you do speak the truth.
It reminds me of a trip to a village in west UP when I told the Brahmins. Rajputs, Jats and Gujjars there that well as an outsider I saw no difference in their hygeine level and that of the Chamars and other Dalits in that village with the exception that the Dalits at least did a lot to clean up will they only spread dirt and if the Chamars were untouchables so were they in my eyes.
It nearly got me lynched but the message went home. The marriage dinner was eaten with the Dalits also sitting down with all in the same line instead of 2 rows back except they had to lift and clean their plates after the same.
But it was profoundly enlightening to one's thought process. Why I did not get lynched and why were they allowed to sit down. That was because there was some groundswell of support for such a move amongst the locals but lacked courage to do so openly, when I acted as a catalyst they coalesced behind me.
But sorry to say (it is of course second hand info told by a friend) from what I have heard in TN in either the Vanniyar or the Thevar belt to do so would be suicide.
Santani
30 Days in Afghanistan - Dinner Conversations
What are you trying to say in this article?
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 12, 2008 11:43 pm
Sir,What are you trying to say in this article?
Sanatani
I Spy Hindutva
Thanks for your delving on atheists. Do tell us Saab if you have come across carnages in the name of atheism.
Specifically the slaughter of Orthodox priests by Commies in Russia in 1917. Of course they were counter revolutionaries so it does not matter.
Specifically the slaughter of Buddisht and Taoist monks by Mao. Of course they were counter revolutionaries so it does not matter.
Specifically the slaughter of Buddisht monks and Hindu Priests by Pol Pot. Of course they were counter revolutionaries so it does not matter.
Specifically the slaughter of Anand Margis by the CPM. Of course they were counter revolutionaries so it does not matter.
In fact so long as the first 3 of the 4M's slaughter people there is no problem with the 4thM.
The problem with Hindutva is the RSS and its failure to define a coherent ideology. Maybe we should convert all Hindus to the Khalsa. The coherent ideology will come from the Adi and Dasham Granths.
This is not to say that both are perfect but is as close to perfect that we will get to define a concrete religous ideology that can be used politically.
Many years ago we had suggested to the VHP for a true Hindu ideology but unfortunately it went over their head.
Their ideology is based on Neti, Neti no this not this. No wonder one who is not muslai, isai, yahoodi or parsi is Hindu.
Whither Hindutva?
By the way those confused may read Shri Sita Ram Goelji's magnum opus How I became a Hindu at Bharat Vani.
Jo Bole So Nihal
Sat Sri Akal
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 12, 2008 11:13 pm
Re: # 103Thanks for your delving on atheists. Do tell us Saab if you have come across carnages in the name of atheism.
Specifically the slaughter of Orthodox priests by Commies in Russia in 1917. Of course they were counter revolutionaries so it does not matter.
Specifically the slaughter of Buddisht and Taoist monks by Mao. Of course they were counter revolutionaries so it does not matter.
Specifically the slaughter of Buddisht monks and Hindu Priests by Pol Pot. Of course they were counter revolutionaries so it does not matter.
Specifically the slaughter of Anand Margis by the CPM. Of course they were counter revolutionaries so it does not matter.
In fact so long as the first 3 of the 4M's slaughter people there is no problem with the 4thM.
The problem with Hindutva is the RSS and its failure to define a coherent ideology. Maybe we should convert all Hindus to the Khalsa. The coherent ideology will come from the Adi and Dasham Granths.
This is not to say that both are perfect but is as close to perfect that we will get to define a concrete religous ideology that can be used politically.
Many years ago we had suggested to the VHP for a true Hindu ideology but unfortunately it went over their head.
Their ideology is based on Neti, Neti no this not this. No wonder one who is not muslai, isai, yahoodi or parsi is Hindu.
Whither Hindutva?
By the way those confused may read Shri Sita Ram Goelji's magnum opus How I became a Hindu at Bharat Vani.
Jo Bole So Nihal
Sat Sri Akal
Sanatani
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
It is so beautiful that the 1st 3 letters of your name are the same as Shri J Sahib.
This Mo fkr Vengatraman seems to be a commie thug parroting commie nonsense like Shaivites killing Vaishnavaites
They have no proof of the same and yet parrot these innanities.
Thanks to J Man we have a clear Hindu state albeit one where we will lose Asom, North East and Bengal due to infiltration.
Regards
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
May 7, 2008 08:12 am
Maj Bhai,It is so beautiful that the 1st 3 letters of your name are the same as Shri J Sahib.
This Mo fkr Vengatraman seems to be a commie thug parroting commie nonsense like Shaivites killing Vaishnavaites
They have no proof of the same and yet parrot these innanities.
Thanks to J Man we have a clear Hindu state albeit one where we will lose Asom, North East and Bengal due to infiltration.
Regards
Sanatani
Bhutto’s Judicial Murder Revisited
Masadi Sahib,
This post is not mine. I was out of my city and using on a public computer. Maybe I did not log out properly and somebody else typed the same.
U can check my record on chowk, I have never used these words against somebody much less somebody's mother.
I may call you a slimeball etc but would not use such words.
However the fault is mine (for not logging out properly) and unreservedly apologise to you for the hurt caused.
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Apr 9, 2008 02:56 pm
Re: # 176Masadi Sahib,
This post is not mine. I was out of my city and using on a public computer. Maybe I did not log out properly and somebody else typed the same.
U can check my record on chowk, I have never used these words against somebody much less somebody's mother.
I may call you a slimeball etc but would not use such words.
However the fault is mine (for not logging out properly) and unreservedly apologise to you for the hurt caused.
Sanatani
Bhutto’s Judicial Murder Revisited
Gr8 Mazumdar Sir,
Nobody is/was worse that Madar Das Gandhi
Posted by
Sanatani
Apr 7, 2008 09:41 am
Re: # 153Gr8 Mazumdar Sir,
Nobody is/was worse that Madar Das Gandhi
Bhutto’s Judicial Murder Revisited
Gr8 Mazumdar Sir,
Nobody is/was worse that Madar Das Gandhi
Posted by
Sanatani
Apr 7, 2008 09:41 am
Re: # 153Gr8 Mazumdar Sir,
Nobody is/was worse that Madar Das Gandhi
Bhutto’s Judicial Murder Revisited
Abe ma chuda behenchod.
Crows do not become swans by aping them and since ur 2 bit brain will ot understand this:
ABE MASADI APNI MA KO CHUDWA
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Apr 7, 2008 09:38 am
Abe Masadi apni ma ku chudwa aur jo bharwagiri mili woh baant ke kha.Abe ma chuda behenchod.
Crows do not become swans by aping them and since ur 2 bit brain will ot understand this:
ABE MASADI APNI MA KO CHUDWA
Sanatani
Bhutto’s Judicial Murder Revisited
Manto if you think charlatans who profess to be patriots deserve something other than abuse I pity Pakistan.
If you look at the fact that by getting rid of N'Desh BHutto did an act of Patriotism it is fine (and it is true) if you conclude otherwise I wonder where this patriotism of yours comes from ?
He was simply flawed and no genius more like Genies Ass
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Apr 7, 2008 09:34 am
Re: # 65Manto if you think charlatans who profess to be patriots deserve something other than abuse I pity Pakistan.
If you look at the fact that by getting rid of N'Desh BHutto did an act of Patriotism it is fine (and it is true) if you conclude otherwise I wonder where this patriotism of yours comes from ?
He was simply flawed and no genius more like Genies Ass
Sanatani
Bhutto’s Judicial Murder Revisited
Zee Bhaiya,
You are mistaking symptom for disease.
Had there been no Bhutto there would have been no Bangla 1 thats how we call 71 in a housie game in India.
This is like the Gandhi's in India underedevelop the nation and then become messiah's in your country by setting up and giving Public Sector jobs in your constitiuency in India as the joke went it would be cheaper for the Indian Air Force to give a dole equivalent to Uttar Pradesh minimum wage to EVERY SINGLE person in Rae Bareki than the farce of giving contracts to Hindustan Aeronautics Limited RB.
But that happens and this is so.
Aur waise aapki Napak Sena ne kaun se Kille fateh kiye hai ki unki izzat aur abroo barkarar rahe.
Sorry brother but what Colonel Todd said in the Annals and Antiquities of Rajpootana there is no man better than a Rajpoot if he is Hindoo and none worse thanhim if he converts to Islam.
As was said by Bhaijan ji Raja Sir Dewan Narendra Nath who could never eat a proper meal in any area outside the West Punjab (he felt the rest of India was too under nourished) the leader of the Hindu Mahasabha if it comes to Pakistan it will be Muslim Rajput versus Hindu Jaat and they will come out second best as their martial valour is circumscribed by their Dharam as the Muslim's is with theirs.
If Shri Jinnah was a blessing fo9r Pak Bhutto was the tragedy and believe me Shri B Mehsud if he killed that slut Benazir then he did your country such a favour that you even do not even know about.
As has been said mysterious are the ways of th Arabic Moon God Ubal also called Allah that mere mortals can only even only think about.
Regards
Sanatani
Posted by
Sanatani
Apr 7, 2008 09:09 am
Re: # 33Zee Bhaiya,
You are mistaking symptom for disease.
Had there been no Bhutto there would have been no Bangla 1 thats how we call 71 in a housie game in India.
This is like the Gandhi's in India underedevelop the nation and then become messiah's in your country by setting up and giving Public Sector jobs in your constitiuency in India as the joke went it would be cheaper for the Indian Air Force to give a dole equivalent to Uttar Pradesh minimum wage to EVERY SINGLE person in Rae Bareki than the farce of giving contracts to Hindustan Aeronautics Limited RB.
But that happens and this is so.
Aur waise aapki Napak Sena ne kaun se Kille fateh kiye hai ki unki izzat aur abroo barkarar rahe.
Sorry brother but what Colonel Todd said in the Annals and Antiquities of Rajpootana there is no man better than a Rajpoot if he is Hindoo and none worse thanhim if he converts to Islam.
As was said by Bhaijan ji Raja Sir Dewan Narendra Nath who could never eat a proper meal in any area outside the West Punjab (he felt the rest of India was too under nourished) the leader of the Hindu Mahasabha if it comes to Pakistan it will be Muslim Rajput versus Hindu Jaat and they will come out second best as their martial valour is circumscribed by their Dharam as the Muslim's is with theirs.
If Shri Jinnah was a blessing fo9r Pak Bhutto was the tragedy and believe me Shri B Mehsud if he killed that slut Benazir then he did your country such a favour that you even do not even know about.
As has been said mysterious are the ways of th Arabic Moon God Ubal also called Allah that mere mortals can only even only think about.
Regards
Sanatani
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