The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
You were not to be seen on those days. I thought Publius could be either you or Eklavya. Anyway Publius initiated me into 'consequentialism/deontology/teleology' etc...
I wish I find a way to learn all these...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 19, 2008 02:45 am
Maju Anna,You were not to be seen on those days. I thought Publius could be either you or Eklavya. Anyway Publius initiated me into 'consequentialism/deontology/teleology' etc...
I wish I find a way to learn all these...
The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
Nkg,
Yes there is every possibility that a same family might have branched into different castes. We have heard about barbarism committed by one goup to another. If you carefully look at the group/tribe, all of its members would have had filial connections.
Aversion to the other group and achievements of a group could have distanced one group from the other. Slowly it could have degraded to the level where the most successful group started treating the rest of the others in a disparaging way and the treatment, a group got was relative to the social status of that group.
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 19, 2008 02:42 am
Re: # 148Nkg,
Yes there is every possibility that a same family might have branched into different castes. We have heard about barbarism committed by one goup to another. If you carefully look at the group/tribe, all of its members would have had filial connections.
Aversion to the other group and achievements of a group could have distanced one group from the other. Slowly it could have degraded to the level where the most successful group started treating the rest of the others in a disparaging way and the treatment, a group got was relative to the social status of that group.
The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
"Brahmins were engaged in mostly intellectual activities. It was their social duty"
This is very disturbing. By intellectual disposition what do you mean? Do you mean to say that farming doesnt require human intellect.
How is that an uneducated farmer's son comes to know the symptoms of rains or the right season for the right crop. What kind of knowledge have Brahmins transferred to the masses that thrived on engineering activities like tool making, jewellery making or cattle rearing.
I am not trying to dispute Brahmins were intellects or spiritual leaders or whatever it is/was. Please dont try to paint Brahmins were responsible for all of the knowledge present within the society. All others proliferated the knowledge in whatever they they could perceive.
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 19, 2008 02:32 am
Nkg,"Brahmins were engaged in mostly intellectual activities. It was their social duty"
This is very disturbing. By intellectual disposition what do you mean? Do you mean to say that farming doesnt require human intellect.
How is that an uneducated farmer's son comes to know the symptoms of rains or the right season for the right crop. What kind of knowledge have Brahmins transferred to the masses that thrived on engineering activities like tool making, jewellery making or cattle rearing.
I am not trying to dispute Brahmins were intellects or spiritual leaders or whatever it is/was. Please dont try to paint Brahmins were responsible for all of the knowledge present within the society. All others proliferated the knowledge in whatever they they could perceive.
The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 19, 2008 02:23 am
The caste system could not have been pre-conceived and implemented purposefully. Probably it just evolved. People have the innate tendency to identify themselves with their filial roots. Don't we see the last names in the western world?
Attack in Mohmand
nkg,
US too has contributed to lots of problems, its better we dont lose sight of that. They supported Pakistan when it suited them, did we expect them to act fair pre-Taliban or pre-globalization...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 13, 2008 04:19 am
Re: # 55nkg,
US too has contributed to lots of problems, its better we dont lose sight of that. They supported Pakistan when it suited them, did we expect them to act fair pre-Taliban or pre-globalization...
Attack in Mohmand
"Strategic vision of dracula lawyer who was sold out due to his devillish jealousy in 1930s is now bearing the fruits. "
Manto, where are you...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 13, 2008 04:16 am
Guru writes:"Strategic vision of dracula lawyer who was sold out due to his devillish jealousy in 1930s is now bearing the fruits. "
Manto, where are you...
Attack in Mohmand
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 13, 2008 12:15 am
US looks like a frightened nation. Everything dark is ghost for them...LOL
Delayed Justice
Harimau is right when saying the caste based discrimination is not the sole domain of Brahmins. There are several other castes that practice discrimination more rabidly.
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 10, 2008 01:24 am
Nkg,Harimau is right when saying the caste based discrimination is not the sole domain of Brahmins. There are several other castes that practice discrimination more rabidly.
Delayed Justice
Harimau,
I'll go with you next year...promise...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 4, 2008 03:57 am
Re: # 17Harimau,
I'll go with you next year...promise...
Delayed Justice
Let’s leave at that. After all Brahmins are our people too. Harimau's online persona cannot be extrapolated for ordinary people on road or even Harimau (offline) himself.
I sincerely believe Harimau is trying to put the pieces together to find what caused us to remain at loggerheads.
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 4, 2008 03:05 am
Nkg,Let’s leave at that. After all Brahmins are our people too. Harimau's online persona cannot be extrapolated for ordinary people on road or even Harimau (offline) himself.
I sincerely believe Harimau is trying to put the pieces together to find what caused us to remain at loggerheads.
Delayed Justice
Dear Harimau,
You've not come out of the plotting closet, isn't it? You guys are so used to codify the rules to the disadvantage of others and you still refuse to let go it...
Learn to play by other's rules...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 4, 2008 12:04 am
Re: # 15Dear Harimau,
You've not come out of the plotting closet, isn't it? You guys are so used to codify the rules to the disadvantage of others and you still refuse to let go it...
Learn to play by other's rules...
Delayed Justice
I accept if you accept to take care of my expenditures...:)...C'mon its not about riding a bike...its about fighting till death...you ready...I'm ready...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 3, 2008 11:45 pm
Re: # 14I accept if you accept to take care of my expenditures...:)...C'mon its not about riding a bike...its about fighting till death...you ready...I'm ready...
Delayed Justice
Harimau,
Interesting. You must be a rich man ...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 3, 2008 02:55 am
Re: # 11Harimau,
Interesting. You must be a rich man ...
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Laddu,
There are other distinguishing/unifying factors that more or less negate any religious misgivings. Race, Class and Caste (Many Muslims and Christians still prefer to marry within their caste) can also be considered equally unifying/distinguishing factors.
A dravidian Muslim, proly, would have prolesyted under duress or a change in conviction. It is the fault of the unconverted Hindu's ancestors for not having protected or convinced not to convert. It doesn't amount to fair retribution to kill a Muslim who is no different from the rest of the population in South India.
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 2, 2008 10:10 pm
Re: # 314Laddu,
There are other distinguishing/unifying factors that more or less negate any religious misgivings. Race, Class and Caste (Many Muslims and Christians still prefer to marry within their caste) can also be considered equally unifying/distinguishing factors.
A dravidian Muslim, proly, would have prolesyted under duress or a change in conviction. It is the fault of the unconverted Hindu's ancestors for not having protected or convinced not to convert. It doesn't amount to fair retribution to kill a Muslim who is no different from the rest of the population in South India.
Pakistan\'s Nuclear Test - Ten Years Later
Hamidm,
Laughing at flying horses will undermine the intelligence of the believer, which could be very incensing, which again could be a natural reflex.
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 2, 2008 06:44 am
Re: # 257Hamidm,
Laughing at flying horses will undermine the intelligence of the believer, which could be very incensing, which again could be a natural reflex.
Looking Towards a Brighter Future
Majumdar; No he has not said those. But my impression is, he has always said it implicitly.
Sorry Eklavya if I have got you wrong...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jun 2, 2008 05:20 am
Re: # 6Majumdar; No he has not said those. But my impression is, he has always said it implicitly.
Sorry Eklavya if I have got you wrong...
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