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Rethinking Foreign Policy -- Can Pakistan and India Agree?
as a party worker of JKLF ( Amanullah Faction ) someone who belongs to Mirpur,AJK , I stand for independent Kashmir which is friendly towards both India and Pakistan respectively - ( although this is a ideal situation ) - Pakistan has worked hard and had showed enough flexibility on Kashmir but ultimately its India who has to make a decision , decision to solve the problem of Kashmir as one unit here there is a misconception among my brothers in Pakistan which is JKLF is anti-Pakistan , which is totally not true since JKLF`s constitution says that anyone who is against Pakistan and Pakistanis will be suspended from JKLF and Amanullah Sahab and even Yaseen Malik himself stated hundred of times that Independent Kashmir will always be greatful to Pakistanis and every Kashmiri will always be ready to sacrifice for Pakistan which is our blood Mother < / b >
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Mar 13, 2006 10:28 am
arjun , what on earth is your point? if your point is that Pakistanis and Muslims face deportation because of there brothers actions in native country pls , make a point of checking situation here in United Kingdom where more Indian Nationals are deported then Pakistani Nationals ( I do feel for everyone which are deported as they come to foreign land leaving everything to raise there standard in there respected homeland ) as a party worker of JKLF ( Amanullah Faction ) someone who belongs to Mirpur,AJK , I stand for independent Kashmir which is friendly towards both India and Pakistan respectively - ( although this is a ideal situation ) - Pakistan has worked hard and had showed enough flexibility on Kashmir but ultimately its India who has to make a decision , decision to solve the problem of Kashmir as one unit here there is a misconception among my brothers in Pakistan which is JKLF is anti-Pakistan , which is totally not true since JKLF`s constitution says that anyone who is against Pakistan and Pakistanis will be suspended from JKLF and Amanullah Sahab and even Yaseen Malik himself stated hundred of times that Independent Kashmir will always be greatful to Pakistanis and every Kashmiri will always be ready to sacrifice for Pakistan which is our blood Mother < / b >
Man and Conflict
pathaab,
there was this programme on bbc about your vary point of circumcision here in UK apparently it turned out that Americans circumcise not because of religion , they do it for hygene and it was all started by Mr.Kellogs (the ceriel man ) - its more cleaner if your cut anyhow on your basic point ` should this process be done at a age of 18 ? with proper consent and the answer to this question is its more painful at that age and the risks are very high when you are grown up the cutting skin when you are young - about consent again - if you ask anyone whos cut or circumcised he would tell you hes happy with it and its good its done before then now -
religion did play a large part of my life and the more I run away from religion the more closer it comes somehow I don`t know why ? is it Bush ? who forces me to side with religion ? maybe yes
i think war starts when one starts `generalizing` Nazis thought ever Jew is evil so they started holocast , we in Pakistani think every American and Non-believer is evil and vice versa - thus starting a conflict - such idealogy starts clashes `generalization`
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Mar 11, 2006 08:17 pm
to judge human(s) men and women , we should start looking at our homes , familiy politics and see is our own house in order ? pathaab,
there was this programme on bbc about your vary point of circumcision here in UK apparently it turned out that Americans circumcise not because of religion , they do it for hygene and it was all started by Mr.Kellogs (the ceriel man ) - its more cleaner if your cut anyhow on your basic point ` should this process be done at a age of 18 ? with proper consent and the answer to this question is its more painful at that age and the risks are very high when you are grown up the cutting skin when you are young - about consent again - if you ask anyone whos cut or circumcised he would tell you hes happy with it and its good its done before then now -
religion did play a large part of my life and the more I run away from religion the more closer it comes somehow I don`t know why ? is it Bush ? who forces me to side with religion ? maybe yes
i think war starts when one starts `generalizing` Nazis thought ever Jew is evil so they started holocast , we in Pakistani think every American and Non-believer is evil and vice versa - thus starting a conflict - such idealogy starts clashes `generalization`
Another Life in Danger in Pakistan
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Mar 11, 2006 08:03 pm
Its considered `hip` to somehow de-grade in Pakistan and arround the world . what happened to Dr.Sarki was right as he was acting against Pakistan(s) intrest
My Hero! Your Hero! Our Hero! Whose Hero?
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Mar 9, 2006 07:11 pm
My Hero! Your Hero! Our Hero! Whose Hero?
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Mar 9, 2006 07:11 pm
An Alternative Spelling of Eed
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 11, 2006 04:40 pm
This article is blasphemous , this b*s*ard has no respect for others , I think it’s a fashion now to be Salman Rushdie wanabe . I wish you hell , where your skin is taken out everyday and the process repeats for thousands of years.
Pakistan’s Territorial Integrity: Lessons from American Democracy
yes we may be backwards in terms of wealth and scientific know-how but we are
one thousand times ahead of Americans in terms of respect for elders,culture and
family values.
Zeena , either you are of slave mentality or either a Indian like arjun who whatvere reason hates Pakistan .
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 8, 2006 01:50 pm
Zeena and your point is?yes we may be backwards in terms of wealth and scientific know-how but we are
one thousand times ahead of Americans in terms of respect for elders,culture and
family values.
Zeena , either you are of slave mentality or either a Indian like arjun who whatvere reason hates Pakistan .
Pakistan’s Territorial Integrity: Lessons from American Democracy
problems regarding royalties and settlement issues with
the federal government, although most of our people got
the promised land in elsewhere in Pakistan (especially in
Vehari, Bhurawala and Gujarkhan in Pakistan) but still
some people did not got the promised land which was promised
to people of Azad Kashmir by Islamabad and then Azad Kashmir
had problems regarding getting royalties from Islamabad which
is a standard issue now since Islamabad (wapda) has a unique?
system of setting royalties to land owners and provinces which
should be re-set as soon as possible. Then there`s another issue of
of extending Magla Dam which has been handled by politicians in
AZK (especially infamous PPP Barrister Sultan) as yet another ploy of
blackmailing central government and making it a issue although threes
some element of justification in Barrister Sultans stance against
extending Magla Dam but 70% of what he says is `bull-sh*t` and nothing
more.
The whole issue of building dam is a non-issue, even the nationalists and opposition has agreed on building more damns (which
proves that if damns are not made we in Pakistan could possibly face
a situation which is very hard to handle); to me it’s even the location of proposed Kalabagh Dam is a non-issue the real issue is
the trust in central government for obvious reasons and the roots of problems starts with the shifting of capital from Karachi to Islamabad * in Punjab *, to a very controversial way of distribution of resources (NFC Awards).
There`s even a proposal of declaring the proposed area of Kalabagh
a `Federal Area` but the central government has somehow didn`t get the
the whole point about ` trust ‘, there is an impression that Islamabad = to Punjab which should be changed.
Anyone who had been to or visited Hyderabad, Sindh would know how essential Kalabagh Dam is for Pakistan; Basha Dam is supported universally in Pakistan.If we want to learn anything from Americans we should learn how to make Supreme Court and our judiciary free from any influence .
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 8, 2006 10:01 am
very well said, before Kalabagh we in Azad Kashmir has problems regarding royalties and settlement issues with
the federal government, although most of our people got
the promised land in elsewhere in Pakistan (especially in
Vehari, Bhurawala and Gujarkhan in Pakistan) but still
some people did not got the promised land which was promised
to people of Azad Kashmir by Islamabad and then Azad Kashmir
had problems regarding getting royalties from Islamabad which
is a standard issue now since Islamabad (wapda) has a unique?
system of setting royalties to land owners and provinces which
should be re-set as soon as possible. Then there`s another issue of
of extending Magla Dam which has been handled by politicians in
AZK (especially infamous PPP Barrister Sultan) as yet another ploy of
blackmailing central government and making it a issue although threes
some element of justification in Barrister Sultans stance against
extending Magla Dam but 70% of what he says is `bull-sh*t` and nothing
more.
The whole issue of building dam is a non-issue, even the nationalists and opposition has agreed on building more damns (which
proves that if damns are not made we in Pakistan could possibly face
a situation which is very hard to handle); to me it’s even the location of proposed Kalabagh Dam is a non-issue the real issue is
the trust in central government for obvious reasons and the roots of problems starts with the shifting of capital from Karachi to Islamabad * in Punjab *, to a very controversial way of distribution of resources (NFC Awards).
There`s even a proposal of declaring the proposed area of Kalabagh
a `Federal Area` but the central government has somehow didn`t get the
the whole point about ` trust ‘, there is an impression that Islamabad = to Punjab which should be changed.
Anyone who had been to or visited Hyderabad, Sindh would know how essential Kalabagh Dam is for Pakistan; Basha Dam is supported universally in Pakistan.If we want to learn anything from Americans we should learn how to make Supreme Court and our judiciary free from any influence .
Reinventing Pakistan: The Rise of The Left
The situation you described is lamentable but this is not an individual act not supported by the government in Pakistan in fact the track record of minorities in Pakistan is better then many ‘secular countries’ and so-called ‘secular countries’ . Yes, our track record is not perfect and lot has to be done (changes in Hadood Ordinance and bits and pieces) and yes I agree ‘we are hypocritical’
Rsridhar Bhai Sahib, I am not into blame games but your country’s track record of victimizing minorities is a ‘legend’ and to top it all up victimization is supported by government institutions.
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 5, 2006 04:01 pm
Rsridhar, The situation you described is lamentable but this is not an individual act not supported by the government in Pakistan in fact the track record of minorities in Pakistan is better then many ‘secular countries’ and so-called ‘secular countries’ . Yes, our track record is not perfect and lot has to be done (changes in Hadood Ordinance and bits and pieces) and yes I agree ‘we are hypocritical’
Rsridhar Bhai Sahib, I am not into blame games but your country’s track record of victimizing minorities is a ‘legend’ and to top it all up victimization is supported by government institutions.
Reinventing Pakistan: The Rise of The Left
It is also to be noted that all the Christian Nuns / Sisters always keep their heads properly covered with veils which are exactly same in shape as the scarf (Hijab) used by Muslim women to cover their heads. The same covering of head by Muslim women is openly and strongly being opposed by the American and European authorities and organizations. So much so that covering of heads by girl students and teachers has been banned in many educational institutions in USA, Canada and Europe.
In addition covering of head by some in USA, Canada and Europe dubbed as sign of oppression while the others call it fundamentalism / extremism.
If this is not blatant Hypocrisy then what else ?
Further, Pope is leader of all the Churches in the world who is always a man. Heads of all the churches in the world are always men. There have been and are many very senior Nuns / Sisters in different churches. At least some of them may have been excellent in knowledge and character but never a Nun / Sister has been made head of the church.
On the other hand the People in America and Europe bitterly criticize Muslims that they do not let women come forward in the religious institutions. If some one goes back in to history, he / she will find several Muslim women scholars of Islam who were also accepted by all the Muslims as Mufti (one who is an authority on Islam and can issue an edict). Can anybody bring one example of such a woman in any other religion ? No, there is none.
If it is not Hypocrisy on the part of Americans and Europeans then what else ?
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 5, 2006 02:14 pm
During the last rituals of Pope, American President, George Walker Bush and First Lady of America, Laura Bush were also present. During the whole ceremony, Ms Laura Bush had covered her head properly with a veil. Also all the other American and European women present there had covered their heads properly with veils.It is also to be noted that all the Christian Nuns / Sisters always keep their heads properly covered with veils which are exactly same in shape as the scarf (Hijab) used by Muslim women to cover their heads. The same covering of head by Muslim women is openly and strongly being opposed by the American and European authorities and organizations. So much so that covering of heads by girl students and teachers has been banned in many educational institutions in USA, Canada and Europe.
In addition covering of head by some in USA, Canada and Europe dubbed as sign of oppression while the others call it fundamentalism / extremism.
If this is not blatant Hypocrisy then what else ?
Further, Pope is leader of all the Churches in the world who is always a man. Heads of all the churches in the world are always men. There have been and are many very senior Nuns / Sisters in different churches. At least some of them may have been excellent in knowledge and character but never a Nun / Sister has been made head of the church.
On the other hand the People in America and Europe bitterly criticize Muslims that they do not let women come forward in the religious institutions. If some one goes back in to history, he / she will find several Muslim women scholars of Islam who were also accepted by all the Muslims as Mufti (one who is an authority on Islam and can issue an edict). Can anybody bring one example of such a woman in any other religion ? No, there is none.
If it is not Hypocrisy on the part of Americans and Europeans then what else ?
Reinventing Pakistan: The Rise of The Left
Quaid-i-Azam ka Pakistan dekh
(Why do you look towards me ,l ook at Quaid-i-Azam’s Pakistan)
In our own country, the Pakistani ruling-class, which is a product of British colonialism, is ideologically, economically, culturally, and politically enslaved to imperialism. From the exploitation and genocide in Bangladesh, to the oppression of nationalities, minorities, workers, peasants, and women, they have proved to be corrupt to the core. Politically our country is once again under military dictatorship. Economically, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. We are slaves of our own backwardness.Our ruling class, over the years, has systematically been purged of the enlightened and progressive people. Our rulers have one and only one agenda that is to produce conditions for a system making room for the capitalistic system of production and accumulation of the capital in a few hands only. Considering the specific conditions of our country it is difficult but not impossible to think of a revolutionary change. yes we can have a socialist system and ultimately the Islamic Socialism here in Pakistan also. For that - fine it is a good place to discuss and get enlightenment on the forum of chowk, but the field work has to be among the masses and the proletariat who are the actual rulers of tomorrow if it has to be some kind of socialism. All the religions at their respective times were revolutionary and were instrumental for drastic changes and betterment of the societies of their times. When ever there is a struggle for changes the old system has no option but to resist to the change.
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 5, 2006 10:47 am
Dekhta kaya hae mere mun ki tarafQuaid-i-Azam ka Pakistan dekh
(Why do you look towards me ,l ook at Quaid-i-Azam’s Pakistan)
In our own country, the Pakistani ruling-class, which is a product of British colonialism, is ideologically, economically, culturally, and politically enslaved to imperialism. From the exploitation and genocide in Bangladesh, to the oppression of nationalities, minorities, workers, peasants, and women, they have proved to be corrupt to the core. Politically our country is once again under military dictatorship. Economically, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. We are slaves of our own backwardness.Our ruling class, over the years, has systematically been purged of the enlightened and progressive people. Our rulers have one and only one agenda that is to produce conditions for a system making room for the capitalistic system of production and accumulation of the capital in a few hands only. Considering the specific conditions of our country it is difficult but not impossible to think of a revolutionary change. yes we can have a socialist system and ultimately the Islamic Socialism here in Pakistan also. For that - fine it is a good place to discuss and get enlightenment on the forum of chowk, but the field work has to be among the masses and the proletariat who are the actual rulers of tomorrow if it has to be some kind of socialism. All the religions at their respective times were revolutionary and were instrumental for drastic changes and betterment of the societies of their times. When ever there is a struggle for changes the old system has no option but to resist to the change.
Remembering Munish
farang ke ragg jaa pahonch yahood mein hai,
suna hai mein nay ghulami say ummatoon ke nejaad,
khudee ke purwash-o-lazat namood mein hai,
...
hai khaaq-e-falasteen pai yahoodi ka haq,
haspania pay nahin kyoon ahal-e-arab ka ,
....
woh faqa-kash kay mo-ot say nahin darta,
rooh-e-mohammad uss ke rooh say nikaal doo,
afghanoo ke gharat dain ka hai yeh ilaaj,
mullah ko iss kay koh-e-daman say nikal doo,
...
kafir ke moot say bhe larazta hai yeh dil,
kehta hai koon iss say kay musalman ke moot marr,
taleem uss ko caahe-yay ussay turk jihad ke,
dunya ko uss kay punja, khooni say ho khatar
Hazrat Alama Iqbal ( rah ) once said about my
nation that ,
gur firdoos bar roo-ay zamee issst - humay issst
waheen issst - o - humay issst
meaning , that if heaven is at a level of earth, then
it is here , it is there
I am emotional now will write some time later ,
arjun ( on a personal note ) , it is this attitude by people like you in Hindustand that the problem of Kashmir is not solved , my children and there children and there children will fight for our rights until we dont get our land ..
shukria
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 3, 2006 05:29 pm
tere dawa janeva mein hai na london mein,farang ke ragg jaa pahonch yahood mein hai,
suna hai mein nay ghulami say ummatoon ke nejaad,
khudee ke purwash-o-lazat namood mein hai,
...
hai khaaq-e-falasteen pai yahoodi ka haq,
haspania pay nahin kyoon ahal-e-arab ka ,
....
woh faqa-kash kay mo-ot say nahin darta,
rooh-e-mohammad uss ke rooh say nikaal doo,
afghanoo ke gharat dain ka hai yeh ilaaj,
mullah ko iss kay koh-e-daman say nikal doo,
...
kafir ke moot say bhe larazta hai yeh dil,
kehta hai koon iss say kay musalman ke moot marr,
taleem uss ko caahe-yay ussay turk jihad ke,
dunya ko uss kay punja, khooni say ho khatar
Hazrat Alama Iqbal ( rah ) once said about my
nation that ,
gur firdoos bar roo-ay zamee issst - humay issst
waheen issst - o - humay issst
meaning , that if heaven is at a level of earth, then
it is here , it is there
I am emotional now will write some time later ,
arjun ( on a personal note ) , it is this attitude by people like you in Hindustand that the problem of Kashmir is not solved , my children and there children and there children will fight for our rights until we dont get our land ..
shukria
Remembering Munish
first we Kashmiris in Birmingham and arround the world are not religious people ( JI in Indian Occupied Kashmir and JI in Azad Kashmir is not a big party - and in case of Mr. Gelani he is popular in Occupied Kashmir specially in Jammu and other rural parts because on his tough stand against this wanabe secular state of India and not because he ( Gelani ) belongs to a religiouis party ) ,
as far as Pakistani Community ( which includes Kashmiris as well ) are concerned , what happened on 7/7 was pure terrorism because ,
a) this was a act against innocents
b) act against people who never supported Iraqi War
c) act against a nation which does not occupies a nation ..
attacks against civilians in India are wrong but attacks against Indian Security Officials is not terrorism but defence against a nation which illegally occupies Kashmir by force ( does not allow International Human Rights Organizations to enter plus not allow presence of UN in Occupied Area of Indian Held Kashmir )
My war is not against people like Munish but a war for my land who is decleared and acknowledged by United Nations to this day
and if what I support is illegal then be it ..
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 3, 2006 04:05 pm
#55 by TheoVanGogh , TAhmed Sahab,first we Kashmiris in Birmingham and arround the world are not religious people ( JI in Indian Occupied Kashmir and JI in Azad Kashmir is not a big party - and in case of Mr. Gelani he is popular in Occupied Kashmir specially in Jammu and other rural parts because on his tough stand against this wanabe secular state of India and not because he ( Gelani ) belongs to a religiouis party ) ,
as far as Pakistani Community ( which includes Kashmiris as well ) are concerned , what happened on 7/7 was pure terrorism because ,
a) this was a act against innocents
b) act against people who never supported Iraqi War
c) act against a nation which does not occupies a nation ..
attacks against civilians in India are wrong but attacks against Indian Security Officials is not terrorism but defence against a nation which illegally occupies Kashmir by force ( does not allow International Human Rights Organizations to enter plus not allow presence of UN in Occupied Area of Indian Held Kashmir )
My war is not against people like Munish but a war for my land who is decleared and acknowledged by United Nations to this day
and if what I support is illegal then be it ..
Remembering Munish
I am a born and bread British Pakistani of Kashmiri Origin which I am proud of , I along with every Kashmiri and Pakistani will not stop fighting Indian Forces * and not civilians * until Kashmir is independent .
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Jan 3, 2006 09:29 am
As a Kashmir ( migrated from Jammu to Mirpur , AJK , Pakistan ) living in Birmingham , I support our freedom fighters like my dad , my grandfather and his grandfather . Our struggle for independence will not stop until we get our motherland back free from Indian Influence and Free from Indian Constitution which we reject and strongly reject .I am a born and bread British Pakistani of Kashmiri Origin which I am proud of , I along with every Kashmiri and Pakistani will not stop fighting Indian Forces * and not civilians * until Kashmir is independent .
Another earthquake
From Balakot With Trepidation - A follow-up of Oct 8
One can not deny the role of army in earth quake relief or any national tragedy be it train derailing in Gotki or the recent earthquake in Azad Kashmir and NWFP, its vital and army is workign overtime .
7.avkrishna,
relief operations is now turned into a `reconstruction effort` , NGO`s, Government, Politicians and Political Parties and Pakistan Army are working over time to shift people from danger zones , seting up shelters , supplying food , operating mobile schools and even colleges .
If you know Azad Kashmir and NWFP ( and I belong to Mirpur , AZK , Pakistan ) the worse effected areas are mountainous areas whereas big cities like Dadyal and Mirpur which borders Punjab ( with the grace of Allah ) suffered minor loss whereas areas bordering NWFP ( places like Muzaffarabad , Balakot etc.. ) were almost destroyed.
The problem now is that people living on mountains wants to remain there and not shift downwards to plain which is a huge headache for everyone thus resulting in more choper flights which is adding more bills .
In another extraodinary *what I call a miracle* , a women was rescued from the rubble after almost two months ( SubhanAllah ) these little miracles help those on ground helping our brothers and sisters and not nagging on civil admin. or fauj but does it matter , Allah Janay ! Pakistan Zindabad !
From Balakot With Trepidation - A follow-up of Oct 8
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Dec 13, 2005 02:56 pm
Although Pakistan Army is part of the problem in todays Pakistan ( curbs on democracy , lavish housing schemes etc.. ) but blaming all most every ill of our nation on army is being stupid. Uncle Urstruly , please stop all the crap its leading us no where , you are like a nagging wife who whatever happens good or bad blames everything on Army although yes, at times you are right when you point to army`s role with regards to civilian life and armed forces role in democratic institutions . One can not deny the role of army in earth quake relief or any national tragedy be it train derailing in Gotki or the recent earthquake in Azad Kashmir and NWFP, its vital and army is workign overtime .
7.avkrishna,
relief operations is now turned into a `reconstruction effort` , NGO`s, Government, Politicians and Political Parties and Pakistan Army are working over time to shift people from danger zones , seting up shelters , supplying food , operating mobile schools and even colleges .
If you know Azad Kashmir and NWFP ( and I belong to Mirpur , AZK , Pakistan ) the worse effected areas are mountainous areas whereas big cities like Dadyal and Mirpur which borders Punjab ( with the grace of Allah ) suffered minor loss whereas areas bordering NWFP ( places like Muzaffarabad , Balakot etc.. ) were almost destroyed.
The problem now is that people living on mountains wants to remain there and not shift downwards to plain which is a huge headache for everyone thus resulting in more choper flights which is adding more bills .
In another extraodinary *what I call a miracle* , a women was rescued from the rubble after almost two months ( SubhanAllah ) these little miracles help those on ground helping our brothers and sisters and not nagging on civil admin. or fauj but does it matter , Allah Janay ! Pakistan Zindabad !
The Amazing Khatris of Punjab
Posted by
IAliBirmingham
Dec 12, 2005 04:23 pm
Khatris are known in Pakistan as people who `lend money` for high intrest in return just like Benyas and Phatans does and in Pakistani Punjab and are one of the most hated community. listing 1-16
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