The ANP Challenge #725 Posted by MantoLives on March 26, 2008 5:15:07 am
Re: # 721

///As for Bhabra Sharif "massacre"... according to you it took place on August 12, 1947. Jinnah was already on his deathbed by then barely even able to move.///

Was Mantolives drunk when he wrote this?? How come Jinnah was on deathbed on 12th Aug 1947?? WHo raised the flag of Pakistan on 14th and 15th Aug then?

The Irreverent Hero Islam Forgot #302 Posted by Eklavya on March 26, 2008 4:11:13 am

I dont know coz I dont read romair :(

The ANP Challenge What Maulana Azad said abt religion + politics is no diff from what Gandhi said. I think they were too naive to ignore what the poisonous snakes like Jinnah and Mahasabhaites were planning.

Yasser's trying to be smart by half when he says that Maulana promoted religion extremism and issued fatwa as he felt that India became Dar-ul-Harb.

Thanks that he now gave (albeit C&P) the whole context of that fatwa.

The ANP Challenge The diff btw religious Muslims and fundoos is very clear.

The ANP Challenge Dada,

Maulana was the true rep of Indian Muslism and everybody knew it. A for him being a fundoo, it's only laughable. He's religious but not a fundoo.

He was the education minister of free India but he never imposed any religious education. There's Humayun Khan from East Bengal who succeeded Maulana as the Ed minister of free India; he too followed the path of Maulana. Prof Nurul Hasan of yesteryears too followed the great path of Maulana.

There's a diff btw religious Muslims and fundoos is very clear.

The ANP Challenge Dada,

I tell u the truth. Yasser does hate G/N/Gh coz they came in the way of Jinnah's Nizam in the whole of Indian Subcontinent.

He's Jinnah's prick extraordinaire!

The ANP Challenge Further to 694 (Zee),

Dari-speaking means that u r not a Gangaram but a blue-blooded Persian.

The ANP Challenge In just one day Yasser took this board towards 700 posts. Yasser the hoenybum, u never disappoint urself.

The ANP Challenge Majumdarda,

There're different hues in Indian history of that period. Muslims were not minorities at that time. They're equally represented in every field of life (no quota). Even in pre-Jinnah period Indian Muslims were prominent in promoting the cause of Indian Independence.

Name a meeting in London (pre-Jinnah period) in support of India or her causes, u have several Muslim names in that meeting. This is what I saw in pre-Jinnah period news items on India (The Times archive)

The ANP Challenge Zeemax (640),

The Khans were not into this game of TNT nor they were actively encouraging riots and murders.

I understand that u lived there (NWFP) and u r a Dari-speaking family.

Whether u like it or not Jinnah was an established criminal in India. It's for the Yasser to counter this.

The ANP Challenge 'Besides I suppose no religious scripture played a part in Maulana Azad's famous fatwa in early 1920s that India was Dar-ul-Harb and the Muslims should move to Afghanistan.'
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Yasserbhai,

U r puting things are divorced from the context.

It's the time when WWI was goin on & Khalifa was abolished by the British who're also ruling India. Since India was ruled by the British it was decided that they shud follow the example of the times of prophet Muhammed. That's why they wanted to migrate to Afghanistan i/o living under British.

But the truth is that a few hundred ppl moved o/a that fatwa.

The Irreverent Hero Islam Forgot Saudi king Abd ul-Lah said this yesterday:

"The idea is to ask representatives of all monotheistic religions to sit together with their brothers in faith and sincerity to all religions as we all believe in the SAME God,"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_interfaith_dialogue

Though Pakistanis disgaree on UP abt this issue, the final word came from King himself who confirmed that the God of the Jews, Christians and Muslims is the same.

Thank u King.

The ANP Challenge We're trying 2 diff topics here.

I am making comments abt the whole range of violent incidents perpetrated by AIML under Jinnah

&

U r making ref to DAD.

As for Suhrawardy, he himself made it clear thru' the 'Memoirs of Suhrwardy' that they (AIML) 'did it' in the provinces where ML was in power.

Why u need x, y or z to make accusations when he himself admitted to DAD violence?

The ANP Challenge Majumdar babu,

JLN and Gandhi were busy dowsing the flames raked up by Jinnah. They are too big-hearted to make street-level comments that YLH is trying to make.

We have the whole media - India as well as foreign plus the administration - to the violence mooted & perpetrated by AIML. Period.

The ANP Challenge No amount of trickery is going to take away the sins of Jinnah whose party engineered violence in all parts of India in the run up to the formation of Pakistan.

Even during the NWFP referendum, the AIML goons, with the active connivance of Jinnah, made statements of killing those ppl who oppose them.

Yasser,

That way u r positioning urself as Galileo. Lol!

The ANP Challenge Mantolives,

U compare urself to Galileo??????????

Salman bro,

U're on right track and dont bother abt the liar-e-azam.