Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries
Wud Qadianis treat Mohammednas differently if the're in Majority? (Pl take a parellel btw Iran and KSA. Tehran has many Synagogues, Gurudwars, Temples but no Sunni Mosque; same wud happen in a Qadiani world). Have u read (recently) how Hizbollah is treating Sunnis in Lebanon?
The basic point is that they're (Mohammedna and Qadianis) flogging the dead horse i.e. a religion that's 'revealed' in a cave by a Jewish angel!
Posted by
VRV
May 14, 2008 04:20 pm
73,Wud Qadianis treat Mohammednas differently if the're in Majority? (Pl take a parellel btw Iran and KSA. Tehran has many Synagogues, Gurudwars, Temples but no Sunni Mosque; same wud happen in a Qadiani world). Have u read (recently) how Hizbollah is treating Sunnis in Lebanon?
The basic point is that they're (Mohammedna and Qadianis) flogging the dead horse i.e. a religion that's 'revealed' in a cave by a Jewish angel!
Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries
Mirza said: "They (non-Ahmadis) are not Muslims, who refuse to believe in the promised Messiah."
If u guys were in majority, u'd do the same thing as these Mohamedans are doing now to ur community. It's only that u r not as powerful as these Mohammedans are!
I read an old artile by Thomas Addison, published in Harvard Theological Review Jan 1929.
It looks like that Mirza wanted to convert all Yehudis to Ahmadiyyat. He not only claimed to be Prophet of Muslims and Christians but also claimed to be incarnation of Krishna in 1904. Wow!
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All in all:
Mohammedans themselves are the Mirzai-type sect of Jewish religion. The Gentiles i.e. pagan arabs were converted to this new religion by Muhammed. Perhaps he wanted Arabs to follow the superior God of Jews.
Gabriel, Adam, Moses, David, Soloman and Jesus et al were all Jewish (i.e. non-Muslims) and these Mohammedans on Chowk dont agree on that. Even Prophethood is the basic tenet of Judaism.
Muhammed is the first Mirzai! If Muhammed had Shias then Mirzais had Lahoris as their Shias!
History repeats itself!
Posted by
VRV
May 14, 2008 04:00 pm
All Qadianis,Mirza said: "They (non-Ahmadis) are not Muslims, who refuse to believe in the promised Messiah."
If u guys were in majority, u'd do the same thing as these Mohamedans are doing now to ur community. It's only that u r not as powerful as these Mohammedans are!
I read an old artile by Thomas Addison, published in Harvard Theological Review Jan 1929.
It looks like that Mirza wanted to convert all Yehudis to Ahmadiyyat. He not only claimed to be Prophet of Muslims and Christians but also claimed to be incarnation of Krishna in 1904. Wow!
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All in all:
Mohammedans themselves are the Mirzai-type sect of Jewish religion. The Gentiles i.e. pagan arabs were converted to this new religion by Muhammed. Perhaps he wanted Arabs to follow the superior God of Jews.
Gabriel, Adam, Moses, David, Soloman and Jesus et al were all Jewish (i.e. non-Muslims) and these Mohammedans on Chowk dont agree on that. Even Prophethood is the basic tenet of Judaism.
Muhammed is the first Mirzai! If Muhammed had Shias then Mirzais had Lahoris as their Shias!
History repeats itself!
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Nehru visited Kerala at the invitation of Namboo but was against the imposition of Art 356. It's reported in the newspapers of that time. (There's widespread unrest in Kerala then).
However the Governor of Kerala Dr. B. Ramakrishna Rao gave his report to the Prez of India. It states interalia:
1. Mass release of prisoners (Commies) who murdered policemen
2. Interference in the police administration (tho laughable as if police and govt is separate)
3. Police interference in labour-management disputes
4. Govt's active backing in left Vs non-left trade unions
5. Meddling with civil service (weak point)
6. Use of govt-aided Co-Op societies in promoting Commie parties
7. Brutality and violent suppresion fo student agitations
8. Enactment of unpopular Education Act (run by Nairs and Christians)
9. Use of govt machinery to consolidate Commie party network
Inspite of the semi-chargesheet of the Governor, I am of the opinion that Nehru erred in dismissing the Namboo govt. However Indira Gandhi (bitch) was instrumental in effecting this dismissal.
Posted by
VRV
May 9, 2008 05:27 pm
NKG,Nehru visited Kerala at the invitation of Namboo but was against the imposition of Art 356. It's reported in the newspapers of that time. (There's widespread unrest in Kerala then).
However the Governor of Kerala Dr. B. Ramakrishna Rao gave his report to the Prez of India. It states interalia:
1. Mass release of prisoners (Commies) who murdered policemen
2. Interference in the police administration (tho laughable as if police and govt is separate)
3. Police interference in labour-management disputes
4. Govt's active backing in left Vs non-left trade unions
5. Meddling with civil service (weak point)
6. Use of govt-aided Co-Op societies in promoting Commie parties
7. Brutality and violent suppresion fo student agitations
8. Enactment of unpopular Education Act (run by Nairs and Christians)
9. Use of govt machinery to consolidate Commie party network
Inspite of the semi-chargesheet of the Governor, I am of the opinion that Nehru erred in dismissing the Namboo govt. However Indira Gandhi (bitch) was instrumental in effecting this dismissal.
I Spy Hindutva
As a minority living in UK, I can give my view of political scenario in UK.
We have London Mayoral elections recently and the real contest was btw Labour and Tories. There's UK's BJP i.e. British National Party with an agenda similar to our BJP's. Tho their Mayoral candidate managed to enter the London Assembly on the basis of overall votes recvd, he's not treated as another politician by the rest of the Assembly, incl by conservatives. Even Mayor Boris refused to shake hand with the BNP leader.
The BNP's Richard Barnbrook is treated as a big pariah with even Tories NOT SITTING NEXT TO HIM NOR THEY WANT TO TALK TO HIM IN the London Assembly.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3872821.ece
The mainstream party candidates walked off the stage when Richard Barnbrook stepped up to speak after becoming, early on Saturday morning, the first member of the British National Party to win a seat on the London Assembly. Mr Barnbrook was unpeturbed.
He expects to be treated as a pariah for the next four years, but insists that he will not be cowed. “If I have to be a lone wolf I will be one,” he told The Times.
Mr Barnbrook, 47, said that he intends to become the voice of “true Londoners”, fighting against political correctness and preferential treatment for racial minorities. He will press for the Union Jack to be flown permanently over City Hall,........
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There're demonstrations against Barnbrook at City Hall by many whites.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-mayor/article-23482865-details /City+Hall+protesters+vow+to+force+out+new+BNP+politician/article.do
City Hall protesters vow to force out new BNP politician
Sri Carmichael, Evening Standard
07.05.08 Related Articles
More than 400 protesters gathered at City Hall to register their disgust at the election of a British National Party member to the London Assembly.
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Tho we have this Islamic extremism in our midst in India but the kinda of polity that's evolving is not good for India in the long run.
I only hope that India doesn't become a Hindu Pakistan.
However, I dont care if I become a foreign national by then.
Posted by
VRV
May 9, 2008 05:04 pm
Vaibhav,As a minority living in UK, I can give my view of political scenario in UK.
We have London Mayoral elections recently and the real contest was btw Labour and Tories. There's UK's BJP i.e. British National Party with an agenda similar to our BJP's. Tho their Mayoral candidate managed to enter the London Assembly on the basis of overall votes recvd, he's not treated as another politician by the rest of the Assembly, incl by conservatives. Even Mayor Boris refused to shake hand with the BNP leader.
The BNP's Richard Barnbrook is treated as a big pariah with even Tories NOT SITTING NEXT TO HIM NOR THEY WANT TO TALK TO HIM IN the London Assembly.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3872821.ece
The mainstream party candidates walked off the stage when Richard Barnbrook stepped up to speak after becoming, early on Saturday morning, the first member of the British National Party to win a seat on the London Assembly. Mr Barnbrook was unpeturbed.
He expects to be treated as a pariah for the next four years, but insists that he will not be cowed. “If I have to be a lone wolf I will be one,” he told The Times.
Mr Barnbrook, 47, said that he intends to become the voice of “true Londoners”, fighting against political correctness and preferential treatment for racial minorities. He will press for the Union Jack to be flown permanently over City Hall,........
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There're demonstrations against Barnbrook at City Hall by many whites.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-mayor/article-23482865-details /City+Hall+protesters+vow+to+force+out+new+BNP+politician/article.do
City Hall protesters vow to force out new BNP politician
Sri Carmichael, Evening Standard
07.05.08 Related Articles
More than 400 protesters gathered at City Hall to register their disgust at the election of a British National Party member to the London Assembly.
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Tho we have this Islamic extremism in our midst in India but the kinda of polity that's evolving is not good for India in the long run.
I only hope that India doesn't become a Hindu Pakistan.
However, I dont care if I become a foreign national by then.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Nehru is not involved in any financial iregularity. Have u heard of Anand Bhavan in Allahabad?
P.S: U must have head of Ranjan Bhattacharya the son-in-law of Vajpayee who made crores of ruppes from wheelings and dealings? That sucker use to demand free kebabs from Ashoka Hotels in Dehli. What a cheap fellow he's!
Masan,
There'e no comparison btw Nehru and Mush.
Mohar,
That's funny.
Posted by
VRV
May 8, 2008 04:05 pm
#218 Posted by nkg on May 8, 2008 6:09:35 am Nehru is not involved in any financial iregularity. Have u heard of Anand Bhavan in Allahabad?
P.S: U must have head of Ranjan Bhattacharya the son-in-law of Vajpayee who made crores of ruppes from wheelings and dealings? That sucker use to demand free kebabs from Ashoka Hotels in Dehli. What a cheap fellow he's!
Masan,
There'e no comparison btw Nehru and Mush.
Mohar,
That's funny.
1857-What Really Happened-A Reconstruction
Posted by
VRV
May 8, 2008 12:45 pm
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Posted by
VRV
May 8, 2008 05:42 am
gtg & huried posts. mistakes crept in.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Unless u r critical of urslf u cant make amends or reform our system. That's the philosophy of criticism. To say that Nehru wanted to destroy the country is downright mental.
Posted by
VRV
May 8, 2008 05:41 am
As for being critical of the existing realities, what's wrong with it - be it Nehru or us?Unless u r critical of urslf u cant make amends or reform our system. That's the philosophy of criticism. To say that Nehru wanted to destroy the country is downright mental.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
U sound like Zeemax when it comes to seing ghosts in the afairs of Nobel Committee. Tho I cant deny some distortions but the way they award prizes incl to Amartya Sen is fair. To say that Sen lobbied is lie.
As for Nehru being a democrat, yes he was and he ramained. AS for sacking of Kerala govt, he used the Constritutional provision, which is far more restrained than Indira's rash dismissals.
He was reluctant but relented later (to dismiss Namboo govt). What abt ur langoti BJP govt? They too did as well.
Nehru economic policies were influenced by the centralised Planning economy of the Soviet model. At the heart of his decision was the wellbeing of the country. Btw, US was not an economic superpower then.
In 2008 we can say so so was wrong but we have factor in the realities of 1950s to cooment on the policies of that era.
Posted by
VRV
May 8, 2008 05:39 am
Majumdar,U sound like Zeemax when it comes to seing ghosts in the afairs of Nobel Committee. Tho I cant deny some distortions but the way they award prizes incl to Amartya Sen is fair. To say that Sen lobbied is lie.
As for Nehru being a democrat, yes he was and he ramained. AS for sacking of Kerala govt, he used the Constritutional provision, which is far more restrained than Indira's rash dismissals.
He was reluctant but relented later (to dismiss Namboo govt). What abt ur langoti BJP govt? They too did as well.
Nehru economic policies were influenced by the centralised Planning economy of the Soviet model. At the heart of his decision was the wellbeing of the country. Btw, US was not an economic superpower then.
In 2008 we can say so so was wrong but we have factor in the realities of 1950s to cooment on the policies of that era.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
OMG, u r far dangerous than Kaalachakra.
Posted by
VRV
May 8, 2008 04:59 am
Pl dont say that Nobel Committe is like a govt office in Calcutta where u can influence a person or a group of ppl to award Nobel.OMG, u r far dangerous than Kaalachakra.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Have pride and call urself a saffronite. Stop pretending like a soft liberal. Be true to urself.
Posted by
VRV
May 8, 2008 04:55 am
If JNU is anathema then u'd find LSE to be equally loathesome. U dont kow how REDD the campus of LSE is. JNU's supposed to be modelled on JNU and it's just living to its creed.Have pride and call urself a saffronite. Stop pretending like a soft liberal. Be true to urself.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Nehru was a democrat but not a Stalinist. We in India use these terms very loosely - perhaps to sund like analysts.
Posted by
VRV
May 8, 2008 04:53 am
Majumdar,Nehru was a democrat but not a Stalinist. We in India use these terms very loosely - perhaps to sund like analysts.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
What shud say now? To me u r a soft-RSS guy. Lemme tell u one thing. I too went to RSS for over one year in my late teens. So u need not educate me on RSS' view of Bharat.
Vedic Mathematics :
The video is a bit funnier. Tho Vedic ppl were the inventors of Zero concept, the mathematics they knew was no more than additions, subtractions and multiplications (?). There're no complex mathematics involved. If Varaha Mihira, Arya Bhatta, Bhaskara had some contributions it's becos they worked on mathematics & NOT becos they worshipped some stones.
Tho Vedic ppl are ahead of the times then, the same stuff cant be used now for the times we live now. World has moved a long way & we need to catch up with the rest of the world. It's better not to be stuck in the olden times.
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Gandhi's social ideas :
Tho some ideas are outdated and some are refashioned to the modern times (Gandhi era) but his work of uniting Indians regardless of caste distinctions is unmatched. He inspired millions of Indians who worked to erase caste rigidities.
Gandhi was a faddist but he shone like a star during the final stages of Indian freedom struggle. Ur langoti RSS effers are not worth a mention as far as freedom struggle is concerned.
Posted by
VRV
May 7, 2008 02:59 pm
NKG,What shud say now? To me u r a soft-RSS guy. Lemme tell u one thing. I too went to RSS for over one year in my late teens. So u need not educate me on RSS' view of Bharat.
Vedic Mathematics :
The video is a bit funnier. Tho Vedic ppl were the inventors of Zero concept, the mathematics they knew was no more than additions, subtractions and multiplications (?). There're no complex mathematics involved. If Varaha Mihira, Arya Bhatta, Bhaskara had some contributions it's becos they worked on mathematics & NOT becos they worshipped some stones.
Tho Vedic ppl are ahead of the times then, the same stuff cant be used now for the times we live now. World has moved a long way & we need to catch up with the rest of the world. It's better not to be stuck in the olden times.
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Gandhi's social ideas :
Tho some ideas are outdated and some are refashioned to the modern times (Gandhi era) but his work of uniting Indians regardless of caste distinctions is unmatched. He inspired millions of Indians who worked to erase caste rigidities.
Gandhi was a faddist but he shone like a star during the final stages of Indian freedom struggle. Ur langoti RSS effers are not worth a mention as far as freedom struggle is concerned.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Majumdarda,
It's an outburst and I apologise for that.
Venkat,
Jayalalithaa is not a school drop-out. She studied up to 10th and discontinued studies as she had to support the family. Secondly, she stood state-first in 10th class (that's what I read).
Finally she's not supposed to use the honorific title Dr in her name (cos it's an honorary Doctorate). Same goes for APJ Abdul Kalam. Tho he had some inventions in his name the Dr he had is an honorary title and they are not suposed to use them regularly.
However we can exclude Kalam as he's some inventions in his name but Jaya invented none but bus numbers like 1J and 1JJ in Madras.
Posted by
VRV
May 7, 2008 02:35 pm
#143 Posted by majumdar on May 7, 2008 5:14:42 am Majumdarda,
It's an outburst and I apologise for that.
Venkat,
Jayalalithaa is not a school drop-out. She studied up to 10th and discontinued studies as she had to support the family. Secondly, she stood state-first in 10th class (that's what I read).
Finally she's not supposed to use the honorific title Dr in her name (cos it's an honorary Doctorate). Same goes for APJ Abdul Kalam. Tho he had some inventions in his name the Dr he had is an honorary title and they are not suposed to use them regularly.
However we can exclude Kalam as he's some inventions in his name but Jaya invented none but bus numbers like 1J and 1JJ in Madras.
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
That makes sense but the quid pro quo is quite funny. U dont attack Gandhi but u Godseites bat for Jinnah??????
I love peace but given a choice I'd shoot all these mothefukkas (Godseites) in one go as a one-off measure.
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Gandhi's political, economic ideas are not feasible but social ideas are very much necessary else there'd be more caste fissures that're comparable with Hindu-Muslim detente.
Posted by
VRV
May 7, 2008 04:58 am
Majumdar,That makes sense but the quid pro quo is quite funny. U dont attack Gandhi but u Godseites bat for Jinnah??????
I love peace but given a choice I'd shoot all these mothefukkas (Godseites) in one go as a one-off measure.
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Gandhi's political, economic ideas are not feasible but social ideas are very much necessary else there'd be more caste fissures that're comparable with Hindu-Muslim detente.
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