Communists and the Making of Pakistan
Sanatini if you feel that way
"than a second class one in India"
so do the mohajirs in Pakistan.
Your neighbour Either Hindu or Muslim was in the long run always was your best confidante even if there might have been transitary bumps,atleast in India with some adaptations
Later thy both get busy with roti kapda ..sarakbijli paani that more overwhelming than religion which i admit is tooooo much both in hidu and in muslim.India loves Religion
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 24, 2007 06:36 pm
#25Sanatini if you feel that way
"than a second class one in India"
so do the mohajirs in Pakistan.
Your neighbour Either Hindu or Muslim was in the long run always was your best confidante even if there might have been transitary bumps,atleast in India with some adaptations
Later thy both get busy with roti kapda ..sarakbijli paani that more overwhelming than religion which i admit is tooooo much both in hidu and in muslim.India loves Religion
Communists and the Making of Pakistan
Boriville
"You can see from the speech of this Kaalchakra; sanatani; laddu, jay, arjun etc the level of hatred and propoganda"
You can see the same tunnel vision among paki Zeemax ,Ali Manto ,ahmed Madani even masadi when he is not frothing over uSA
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 24, 2007 06:10 pm
#32Boriville
"You can see from the speech of this Kaalchakra; sanatani; laddu, jay, arjun etc the level of hatred and propoganda"
You can see the same tunnel vision among paki Zeemax ,Ali Manto ,ahmed Madani even masadi when he is not frothing over uSA
Communists and the Making of Pakistan
Cliff .
Hindutva may be monolithic but not India
How can pak be considered more diverse than India.Pakistan has ownly 4 states and languages .India not only has more than 25 states but atleast 20 regional languages and cultures.
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 24, 2007 06:03 pm
#34 Cliff .
Hindutva may be monolithic but not India
How can pak be considered more diverse than India.Pakistan has ownly 4 states and languages .India not only has more than 25 states but atleast 20 regional languages and cultures.
Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?
Rascism is rascism does not matter on what basis Dr.Watson bases it on Genetics ,Whites base it on colour Hindus base it on reincarnation resulting in tiers of Caste and Muslims base it on any or all of the other reasons.As Iqbal complained yun to syed bhi ho mirza bh Afghan bhi ....batao to ke musalman bhi ho.So there you have it Although Islams greatest appeal and selling point is All mens are created equal is it in reality.Its a high goals to expect beyond human.
"and btw, slavery was legal in the heart of the muslim world, Saudi Arabia, till 1962. "
BTW Islam did not START slavery .It did make attempt stop it prophet did liberate first black slave to be so Hazrat Bilal much before your civil rights .Of course slavery continued from prior to Islam to after it just as gambling drunkedness fornication homosexuality prostitution so many despicable things among Slavery.If muslims continued to practice slavery just as the White masters importing blacks from Africa then Americans whites cannot claim be the first to abolish it b/c they had the most and worst of slavery .
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 18, 2007 02:43 pm
Re: # 157Rascism is rascism does not matter on what basis Dr.Watson bases it on Genetics ,Whites base it on colour Hindus base it on reincarnation resulting in tiers of Caste and Muslims base it on any or all of the other reasons.As Iqbal complained yun to syed bhi ho mirza bh Afghan bhi ....batao to ke musalman bhi ho.So there you have it Although Islams greatest appeal and selling point is All mens are created equal is it in reality.Its a high goals to expect beyond human.
"and btw, slavery was legal in the heart of the muslim world, Saudi Arabia, till 1962. "
BTW Islam did not START slavery .It did make attempt stop it prophet did liberate first black slave to be so Hazrat Bilal much before your civil rights .Of course slavery continued from prior to Islam to after it just as gambling drunkedness fornication homosexuality prostitution so many despicable things among Slavery.If muslims continued to practice slavery just as the White masters importing blacks from Africa then Americans whites cannot claim be the first to abolish it b/c they had the most and worst of slavery .
Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?
and i dont believe in reincarnation to make some one DESERVE there servitude .
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 18, 2007 01:19 pm
Re: # 154and i dont believe in reincarnation to make some one DESERVE there servitude .
Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?
You are all staunch muslims & muslims are the worst rascist.Pathans vs Punjabis Mohajirs Vs Sindhi West Pakistani Vs east Pakistani (now BDEsh)
practice what you preach .The glamorous world of Pak T.V & movie Personalities despite making living of Pakistani ,and just like WASP or Brahmins consider you all inferior just ask Meera & Veenezas of Pakistan
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 18, 2007 10:45 am
Masadi, Ahmedmadani, Aslam, UrsTruly ..Dont say there is no rAscism among Pakistanis or Arab countries .You are all staunch muslims & muslims are the worst rascist.Pathans vs Punjabis Mohajirs Vs Sindhi West Pakistani Vs east Pakistani (now BDEsh)
practice what you preach .The glamorous world of Pak T.V & movie Personalities despite making living of Pakistani ,and just like WASP or Brahmins consider you all inferior just ask Meera & Veenezas of Pakistan
Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?
Aslam you are quoting AFRICAN as being same as Black Americans.Black American or African American has been here for hundreds of years but only in the last century as late as 60s never had ENVIROMENTAL change to compete as by affirmative Action.
Since then genetic diffeences both good and bad have been diluted or neutralised .Look at the land mark achievement in education of Black american that
even the descendent of White Moghuls rulers of Pakistan stand up like sheep when Condi Rice shows up as Head Mistress.Not to speak of All white Arabs
Land marks of Black Americans Educational Achievements
1837
Institute for Colored Youth founded by Richard Humphreys; later became Cheyney University.
1854
Ashmun Institute, the first school of higher learning for young black men, founded by John Miller Dickey and his wife, Sarah Emlen Cresson; later (1866) renamed Lincoln University (Pa.) after President Abraham Lincoln.
1856
Wilberforce University, the first black school of higher learning owned and operated by African Americans, founded by the African Methodist Episcopal Church. Its president, Daniel A. Payne, became the first African American Uniiversity president in the country.
1869
Howard University's law school becomes the country's first black law school.
1876
Meharry Medical College, the first black medical school in the U.S., founded by the Freedman's Aid Society of the Methodist Episcopal Church.
1881
Spelman College, the first college for black women in the U.S., founded by Sophia B. Packard and Harriet E. Giles.
1881
Booker T. Washington founds the Tuskegee Normal and Industrial Institute in Alabama. The school became one of the leading schools of higher learning for African Americans, and stressed the practical application of knowledge. In 1896, George Washington Carver began teaching there as director of the department of agricultural research, gaining an international reputation for his agricultural advances.
1922
William Leo Hansberry teaches the first course in African civilization at an American university, at Howard University.
1944
Frederick Douglass Patterson establishes the United Negro College Fund to help support black colleges and black students.
1954
In the landmark case Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kans., the Supreme Court rules unanimously that segregation in public schools in unconstitutional.
1957
President Dwight D. Eisenhower sends federal troops to ensure integration of the all-white Central High School in Little Rock, Ark. The Little Rock Nine were the first black students to attend the school.
1960
Black and white students form the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), dedicated to working against segregation and discrimination.
1962
James Meredith is the first black student to enroll at the University of Mississippi; on the day he enters the university, he is escorted by U.S. marshals.
1963
Despite Governor George Wallace physically blocking their way, Vivian Malone and James Hood register for classes at the University of Alabama.
1968
San Francisco State University becomes the first four-year college to establish a black studies department.
1969
The Ford Foundation gives $1 million to Morgan State University, Howard University, and Yale University to help prepare faculty members to teach courses in African American studies.
2003
In Grutter v. Bollinger, the Supreme Court (5-4) upholds the University of Michigan Law School's affirmative action policy, ruling that race can be one of many factors considered by colleges when selecting their students because it furthers “a compelling interest in obtaining the educational benefits that flow from a diverse student body.”
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 18, 2007 08:14 am
Re: # 127Aslam you are quoting AFRICAN as being same as Black Americans.Black American or African American has been here for hundreds of years but only in the last century as late as 60s never had ENVIROMENTAL change to compete as by affirmative Action.
Since then genetic diffeences both good and bad have been diluted or neutralised .Look at the land mark achievement in education of Black american that
even the descendent of White Moghuls rulers of Pakistan stand up like sheep when Condi Rice shows up as Head Mistress.Not to speak of All white Arabs
Land marks of Black Americans Educational Achievements
1837
Institute for Colored Youth founded by Richard Humphreys; later became Cheyney University.
1854
Ashmun Institute, the first school of higher learning for young black men, founded by John Miller Dickey and his wife, Sarah Emlen Cresson; later (1866) renamed Lincoln University (Pa.) after President Abraham Lincoln.
1856
Wilberforce University, the first black school of higher learning owned and operated by African Americans, founded by the African Methodist Episcopal Church. Its president, Daniel A. Payne, became the first African American Uniiversity president in the country.
1869
Howard University's law school becomes the country's first black law school.
1876
Meharry Medical College, the first black medical school in the U.S., founded by the Freedman's Aid Society of the Methodist Episcopal Church.
1881
Spelman College, the first college for black women in the U.S., founded by Sophia B. Packard and Harriet E. Giles.
1881
Booker T. Washington founds the Tuskegee Normal and Industrial Institute in Alabama. The school became one of the leading schools of higher learning for African Americans, and stressed the practical application of knowledge. In 1896, George Washington Carver began teaching there as director of the department of agricultural research, gaining an international reputation for his agricultural advances.
1922
William Leo Hansberry teaches the first course in African civilization at an American university, at Howard University.
1944
Frederick Douglass Patterson establishes the United Negro College Fund to help support black colleges and black students.
1954
In the landmark case Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kans., the Supreme Court rules unanimously that segregation in public schools in unconstitutional.
1957
President Dwight D. Eisenhower sends federal troops to ensure integration of the all-white Central High School in Little Rock, Ark. The Little Rock Nine were the first black students to attend the school.
1960
Black and white students form the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), dedicated to working against segregation and discrimination.
1962
James Meredith is the first black student to enroll at the University of Mississippi; on the day he enters the university, he is escorted by U.S. marshals.
1963
Despite Governor George Wallace physically blocking their way, Vivian Malone and James Hood register for classes at the University of Alabama.
1968
San Francisco State University becomes the first four-year college to establish a black studies department.
1969
The Ford Foundation gives $1 million to Morgan State University, Howard University, and Yale University to help prepare faculty members to teach courses in African American studies.
2003
In Grutter v. Bollinger, the Supreme Court (5-4) upholds the University of Michigan Law School's affirmative action policy, ruling that race can be one of many factors considered by colleges when selecting their students because it furthers “a compelling interest in obtaining the educational benefits that flow from a diverse student body.”
Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?
For what ever reason nationalism is come to be accepted as term ...National (BNP)party .When nationalism interacts with another and HURTS it. it is rascism.Thats why rascism is Bad nationalism is o.k.
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 18, 2007 07:39 am
Re: # 137For what ever reason nationalism is come to be accepted as term ...National (BNP)party .When nationalism interacts with another and HURTS it. it is rascism.Thats why rascism is Bad nationalism is o.k.
Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?
Jai shiv Shankar
There two things never say 'never' and 'ALL'.
You may say insignificant % from your point of advantage being physician
But for even the few % it is 100%:)
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 18, 2007 07:32 am
#121Jai shiv Shankar
There two things never say 'never' and 'ALL'.
You may say insignificant % from your point of advantage being physician
But for even the few % it is 100%:)
Farewell to Shimla
There are many such muislim majority areas are of which Kasmir is glaring example.
However Nehrus Promise of India being NOT hindu pakistan is yet to be realized
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 7, 2007 11:39 am
as DM Sb once pointed out there was no hindu majority areas left in Pakistan.There are many such muislim majority areas are of which Kasmir is glaring example.
However Nehrus Promise of India being NOT hindu pakistan is yet to be realized
Farewell to Shimla
Why there is no mention of 1/4 milion ,Biharis,affected
by Bihari hindu ?
many killed and others involutarily have to leave for east Pakistan
and then doubly affected in '71 by West Pakistan this time.
i think that was greater tragedy
written about in urdu only
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 7, 2007 11:31 am
I have read so many articles and interacts pertaining to killing in Punjab .Why there is no mention of 1/4 milion ,Biharis,affected
by Bihari hindu ?
many killed and others involutarily have to leave for east Pakistan
and then doubly affected in '71 by West Pakistan this time.
i think that was greater tragedy
written about in urdu only
Bernard Lewis and the Neocon view of Islam
No need for tu tu mai mai
At it worst it is Partial selectively with Matar Labib books
http://www.salaam.co.uk/knowledge/nabil.php
or at its best narration of Bernad Lewis School Vs Non Bernad Lewis School
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 7, 2007 10:28 am
KalNo need for tu tu mai mai
At it worst it is Partial selectively with Matar Labib books
http://www.salaam.co.uk/knowledge/nabil.php
or at its best narration of Bernad Lewis School Vs Non Bernad Lewis School
The First Indian-American Governor in America
He Reminds me of Dinesh De Souza
Dinesh DeSouza returns from his coffin
Posted by Mark on October 16th, 2006
I hadn’t heard the name in years. I thought he was somewhere in a corner licking his wounds after the Clinton years had rendered him voiceless. However, he’s back, and James Wolcott has the scoop. He takes DeSouza apart piece by piece until there’s no skin left on his already bare boned argument. What argument? It doesn’t matter, because as usually it will be weak, however, if you must know, it is yet another tome on how the left is destroying America!!!!!!!!!! It’s ugly, so if your stomach is weak, you may not want to watch.
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 7, 2007 10:00 am
He Reminds me of Dinesh De Souza
Dinesh DeSouza returns from his coffin
Posted by Mark on October 16th, 2006
I hadn’t heard the name in years. I thought he was somewhere in a corner licking his wounds after the Clinton years had rendered him voiceless. However, he’s back, and James Wolcott has the scoop. He takes DeSouza apart piece by piece until there’s no skin left on his already bare boned argument. What argument? It doesn’t matter, because as usually it will be weak, however, if you must know, it is yet another tome on how the left is destroying America!!!!!!!!!! It’s ugly, so if your stomach is weak, you may not want to watch.
Good on ya Bangladesh!
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 3, 2007 01:36 pm
Fking Pakistani they got Pakistani in the name of All the muslims of Indian subcontinent its another matter people like Moulana Azad ,Himayun Kabir and Even Dilip Kumar Saira Banu were saw these idiots wanting everything but giving nothing sala cheat
Dillu Ram Kausari: The Hindu Poet who Loved The Prophet
Ask any Sunni if he considers all these to be part of the Islam-'
You my friend are full of anger against Islam in General.A muslim in turkey Egypt Lebenan Syria are not exposed to Hinduism as Muslims of India..Including Pakistan pre 47 for which rascist Hamid is responsible.
All these people you list arent they from India?.Isnt Islam in India has its own flavour different than countries like Egypt syria?Have you seen any Muslim in India breaking any Idol.So plz be more discrening .If you have any gripes with Islam religion you should realy have gripe with saudi Syria And even Pakistan.As for totaly being Indian are the hindus totally pre 1000 yrs since foreign influence .Why did not Hindustan reject eveything that came after including English and Wetern Influence And Education.Talk about non indegenous India India is Shining to day because of Imported Multiplex Mscdonalds and rush for every thing American not Sanskrit Haridwar Mathura Kashi or puri.You know the fountain of prehistoric india
Posted by
TOLKININ
Oct 3, 2007 05:28 am
#25 Posted by laddu on October 2, 2007 11:24:09 pm Ask any Sunni if he considers all these to be part of the Islam-'
You my friend are full of anger against Islam in General.A muslim in turkey Egypt Lebenan Syria are not exposed to Hinduism as Muslims of India..Including Pakistan pre 47 for which rascist Hamid is responsible.
All these people you list arent they from India?.Isnt Islam in India has its own flavour different than countries like Egypt syria?Have you seen any Muslim in India breaking any Idol.So plz be more discrening .If you have any gripes with Islam religion you should realy have gripe with saudi Syria And even Pakistan.As for totaly being Indian are the hindus totally pre 1000 yrs since foreign influence .Why did not Hindustan reject eveything that came after including English and Wetern Influence And Education.Talk about non indegenous India India is Shining to day because of Imported Multiplex Mscdonalds and rush for every thing American not Sanskrit Haridwar Mathura Kashi or puri.You know the fountain of prehistoric india
Limits of Multiculturalism
Kal with ref.Previous posts
What debunk Kant rule is.Why should it be followed or met for the good
Kant is made out to be the best logic.
It means i dont deal with you and you dont deal with me.
Indeed Kant is a jungle rule where rich and powerfull rules
Posted by
TOLKININ
Sep 25, 2007 12:08 pm
#227Kal with ref.Previous posts
What debunk Kant rule is.Why should it be followed or met for the good
Kant is made out to be the best logic.
It means i dont deal with you and you dont deal with me.
Indeed Kant is a jungle rule where rich and powerfull rules
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