Communists and the Making of Pakistan Re: # 76 Mantolives:"Can you quote me your source please."

Here is the source

http://www.khalidhasan.net/fridaytimes/2004-10-15.htm

Enjoy!

Communists and the Making of Pakistan Re: # 65: This is what Chaudry Rahmat Ali had to say of Jinnah.

"(“Mr Jinnah has acted the Judas and betrayed, bartered and dismembered the Millat, animated by ambition for recognition as the Quisling-e-Azam of Pakistan and Bangistan… a far worse traitor than Janki in 712, Mir Jaffer in 1757 and the Muslim aristocracy in 1857.�)

He was promptly banned from entering Pakistan and died in penury in Cambridge....

Any parallel between him and Nawaz Sharif's case is purely co-incidental, I guess....

Musharraf the Out-smarter Re: # 190 maffrejal:

Could it simply be apathy to their country... or a civil war..

Musharraf the Out-smarter Pakistan, epicentre of global instability
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 27/09/2007

Simon Scott Plummer reviews Deception: Pakistan, the United States and the Global Nuclear Weapons Conspiracy by Adrian Levy and Catherine Scott Clark

Pakistan has a strong claim to be the most dangerous country in the world, or, as the authors of Deception more elegantly put it, "the epicentre of global instability". Tension with India has persisted since the British acceded to the partition of the jewel in their imperial crown in 1947. It has resulted in three wars, the last, in 1971, causing East Pakistan, now Bangladesh, to secede. And although talks have been held and confidence-building measures taken, the problem of Kashmir is still intractable.

Since its detonation of five devices in May 1998, Pakistan has been a recognised nuclear power. Earlier that month, India under a new Hindu nationalist government, had conducted a hot test, its first since 1974; Nawaz Sharif, the Pakistani prime minister, declared that a matching response was a matter of national survival.

After the response was made, one of the scientists, Samar Mubarakmand, said: "Our life expectancy is 122nd in the world; in literacy we are 162nd … Now in nuclear weapons we are seventh in the world." His remark illustrates perfectly Pakistan's inferiority complex as a nation which has failed in the basic task of development and is overawed by India.

The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People\'s Party Re: # 206 Tahmed:

That realization has been speeded up after interacting with folks like you..:)

The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People\'s Party Re: Masanamuthu:"We would be in Nigeria/Lebanon like situation if not for partition.. Hail Jinnah.."

You got that dead right...Worse we could have been "them" as this report shows. MAJ thanks for your yeomen service to India and your fore-sight in removing the riff-raffs, rascals, and looters out of India..and to Pakistan where they are doing excellently well in what they know best...

'Pakistan is world's most dangerous country'
20 Aug 2007, 0813 hrs IST,PTI


WASHINGTON: Terming Pakistan as "the most dangerous country in the world", the US' Senate Committee on Foreign Relations has slammed Bush administration for having a "Musharraf policy" instead of a policy for Pakistan.

"The fact of the matter is, Pakistan is the most dangerous, potentially the most dangerous country in the world. A significant minority of jihadists with nuclear weapons. We have no Pakistan policy; we have a Musharraf policy," chairman of the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Senator Joseph R Biden said at a debate featuring the Democratic candidates sponsored by ABC News at the Drake University in Iowa.

Remembering the Presidential Election of 1965 Dont know about Gordon Brown & MAJ but the others were creative people..made a positive change in peoples lives:)

Remembering the Presidential Election of 1965 Did Jinnah have Asperger's syndrome?
By :Dr M Arshad
Prof M Fitzgerald

This is a must read for fans & foes of MAJ and explains his abberations,disturbing behavior and mental condition......Also elucidates the history of Pakistan

Twin Blasts in Rawalpindi leaves 27 dead, 70 injured Re: # 187

Well lets hope the debate is a long one with enough masala to keep he/she/it off Im's...

Twin Blasts in Rawalpindi leaves 27 dead, 70 injured Re: # 187

Well lets hope the debate is a long one with enough masala to keep he/she/it off Im's...

Twin Blasts in Rawalpindi leaves 27 dead, 70 injured dawa-i-dil : Good to see you have got over that debilitating obsession with creating another homeland for Indian Muslims....

Please back off, Benazir! Well Benazir has completed a deal!

'Musharraf-Benazir pact almost done deal'
(Reuters)

29 August 2007

ISLAMABAD - A power-sharing pact between Pakistan’s embattled President Pervez Musharraf and former prime minister Benazir Bhutto has almost been finalised, a cabinet minister said on Wednesday.


Bhutto has demanded a commitment from Musharraf to quit as army chief and become a civilian president as a condition for any deal, but Railways Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said the issue had been settled.

“There is no more uniform issue. It has been settled and the president will make an announcement,� Ahmed told a news conference.

Musharraf, who has seen his popularity plummet in recent months, wants to get re-elected president for another five years between mid-September and mid-October, before his term as army chief expires at the end of the year.

But US ally Musharraf faces opposition, particularly over his plan to secure another term while remaining army chief, raising concern about stability in the nuclear-armed country seen as vital to efforts to tackle terrorism and pacify Afghanistan.

A pact with two-time prime minister Bhutto, whose Pakistan People’s Party is the country’s single largest party, would see Musharraf through, but he will have to pay Bhutto’s price.

Britain’s Daily Telegraph newspaper on Wednesday quoted Bhutto as saying the “uniform issue is resolved�.

Ahmed said the deal with Bhutto’s party was 80 percent finalised.

“There are just two or three points that need to be settled,� Ahmed said, adding that the outcome of talks between the president’s aides and Bhutto in London this week were very important.

Under Musharraf’s plan, a general election will be held at the end of the year or early next year.

As well as demanding that Musharraf resign from the army, Bhutto, wants immunity from prosecution for corruption charges hanging over her and the removal of ban on a prime minister serving a third term.

Bhutto has set an August 31 deadline for a deal.

Please back off, Benazir! Re: # 53

The old man was notorious for his bloopers..His "rose between two thorns" takes the cake along with of course the creation of Pakistan....

The \'poor\' Neighbour 'Pakistan is world's most dangerous country'
20 Aug 2007, 0813 hrs IST,PTI

WASHINGTON: Terming Pakistan as "the most dangerous country in the world", the US' Senate Committee on Foreign Relations has slammed Bush administration for having a "Musharraf policy" instead of a policy for Pakistan.

"The fact of the matter is, Pakistan is the most dangerous, potentially the most dangerous country in the world. A significant minority of jihadists with nuclear weapons. We have no Pakistan policy; we have a Musharraf policy," chairman of the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Senator Joseph R Biden said at a debate featuring the Democratic candidates sponsored by ABC News at the Drake University in Iowa.

"That's a bad policy. The policy should be based upon a long-term relationship with Pakistan and stability," the Senator, who is also seeking Democratic Party nomination for 2008 US Presidential elections, said.

Biden stressed on the need to conduct a free and fair elections in Pakistan to prevent the moderates, who are in "overwhelming majority", from going underground.

"We should be encouraging free elections. There is an overwhelming majority of moderates in that country. They should have their day. Otherwise, they are going to go underground," the powerful Chair of the Senate Committee said.

During the debate, former Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards terming Musharraf as "not a wonderful leader" said, "He provides some stability in Pakistan. And there is a great risk, if he's overthrown, about a radical government taking over."

"They have a nuclear weapon. They are in constant tension with India, which also has nuclear weapons, over Kashmir. I mean, it's a dangerous, volatile situation," Edwards added.

The \'poor\' Neighbour Re: # 274
"However... Pakistan's achievement is that it has forced Muslims who were lagging behind as agriculturalists and soldiers to come to grips with the reality of having a state of their own..."

Isn't 60 years enough time to come to grips with reality...Or is some more time needed for that?

India: The Empire Strikes Back Re: # 17
Folio: Pakistan is ranked 10th in the list of failed states, 1st in export of terrorism & jehadism; stats that are impressive to say the least...