Democracy is the Best Revenge?
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US carrier moved to Arabian Sea
WASHINGTON, July 8: A US aircraft carrier has moved to the Arabian Sea to support military operations in Afghanistan, leaving the Gulf without a carrier, US defence officials said on Tuesday.
The shift by the USS Abraham Lincoln over the weekend comes amid stepped up insurgent violence in Afghanistan where US combat casualties have been on the rise even as they have dropped sharply in Iraq.
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jayp
Jul 9, 2008 03:04 am
Revenge for teh democrazy of pakistan that supports the jihadis are coming.////////////////////////////////////
US carrier moved to Arabian Sea
WASHINGTON, July 8: A US aircraft carrier has moved to the Arabian Sea to support military operations in Afghanistan, leaving the Gulf without a carrier, US defence officials said on Tuesday.
The shift by the USS Abraham Lincoln over the weekend comes amid stepped up insurgent violence in Afghanistan where US combat casualties have been on the rise even as they have dropped sharply in Iraq.
Muslim Ghettoisation
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China kills five Muslims training for 'holy war' BEIJING, July 9 (AFP): Chinese police killed five Muslims in its far northwest who were planning to wage a “holy war” against the nation's majority Han population, the official Xinhua news agency reported on Wednesday. Five were killed and 10 arrested on Tuesday when police raided their hide-out in Urumqi, the capital of the Muslim-populated Xinjiang region. “The suspected criminals that police killed and nabbed... were from a 'holy war' training group,” Xinhua said, citing an Urumqi police spokesman. (Posted @ 15:25 PST)
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jayp
Jul 9, 2008 03:00 am
Contribution of islam to china. From dawn of today/////////////////
China kills five Muslims training for 'holy war' BEIJING, July 9 (AFP): Chinese police killed five Muslims in its far northwest who were planning to wage a “holy war” against the nation's majority Han population, the official Xinhua news agency reported on Wednesday. Five were killed and 10 arrested on Tuesday when police raided their hide-out in Urumqi, the capital of the Muslim-populated Xinjiang region. “The suspected criminals that police killed and nabbed... were from a 'holy war' training group,” Xinhua said, citing an Urumqi police spokesman. (Posted @ 15:25 PST)
Muslim Ghettoisation
Civilisation die very hard, even after thousands of years of foriegn rule, hinduism survived. Evenm after years of japanese rule, chinese civilisation survived. Now both are flourishing.
Take the case of the heart of islamic world, suadi arabia, even with all the wealth of the oil, especially from teh seventies, what did they do with it squandered it all. See now, the muslims have ordered 3 A380s, in executive comnfiguration, for the travels of the muslims shiekhs. The money was never spend in a wise way, educating the people, creating centres of learning, creating a propsperous society rich in lasting values.
The reason is simple, there is nothing called islamic civilisation, islam is all about following the book, that does not leave any room for anything.
Look at the case of simple art like painting, per koran no human or living thing should be painted, islamic art has been reduced to caligraphy, stylised writing of teh words from koran.
This happened in every walks of life, stimied and strangled by the book.
Thsi has reduced to dost mitter claiming that islamic contribution is jilebi, well it is an iranian dish dating to pre-islamic times.
Islamic contribution to man kind is zilch.
Sorry I am wrong here, all of teh security develeopments of today, especially the unmanned aerial vehicles are in fact due to jihad, a true islamic contribution. Yes, islam has contributed to teh development of weapons to contains jihadis, if you consider that as an islamic contribution.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 9, 2008 02:57 am
Islam and civilisation.Civilisation die very hard, even after thousands of years of foriegn rule, hinduism survived. Evenm after years of japanese rule, chinese civilisation survived. Now both are flourishing.
Take the case of the heart of islamic world, suadi arabia, even with all the wealth of the oil, especially from teh seventies, what did they do with it squandered it all. See now, the muslims have ordered 3 A380s, in executive comnfiguration, for the travels of the muslims shiekhs. The money was never spend in a wise way, educating the people, creating centres of learning, creating a propsperous society rich in lasting values.
The reason is simple, there is nothing called islamic civilisation, islam is all about following the book, that does not leave any room for anything.
Look at the case of simple art like painting, per koran no human or living thing should be painted, islamic art has been reduced to caligraphy, stylised writing of teh words from koran.
This happened in every walks of life, stimied and strangled by the book.
Thsi has reduced to dost mitter claiming that islamic contribution is jilebi, well it is an iranian dish dating to pre-islamic times.
Islamic contribution to man kind is zilch.
Sorry I am wrong here, all of teh security develeopments of today, especially the unmanned aerial vehicles are in fact due to jihad, a true islamic contribution. Yes, islam has contributed to teh development of weapons to contains jihadis, if you consider that as an islamic contribution.
Muslim Ghettoisation
Newly added to thsi typology is the bank rober jihadis.
Take it from me pakis, jihadis are general purpose killers, they will kill any one whom the mullah orders them to kill. That si what has happened in karachi.
The poor reporter of the item below is mystified, better he reads and understands about jihad from my posts.
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Series of blasts terrorises, mystifies Karachi
By Tahir Siddiqui
KARACHI, July 7: Terror struck the city six times within an hour on Monday as unknown terrorists triggered a series of blasts that wounded over 50 people, including children and policemen.
The blasts occurred between 7:05pm and 7:50pm, with an interval of eight to 10 minutes, at Banaras Chowk, Orangi Town, Pak Colony and Shahrah-i-Noorjahan.
The DIG of Karachi West, Aleem Jaffery, told Dawn that 41 people were injured in the series of blasts at five places. “No one was killed in the blasts, however,” he added.
Observers and analysts found the serial bomb attack in the provincial capital different from the usual pattern of terrorist strikes in the country. Most of the bombs used were of a low intensity and designed more to spread panic than to cause large-scale human casualty.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 8, 2008 03:01 am
When serial blasts by the jihadis happened in India, pakistan refused to cooperate. Pathetic pakis like zeemax are still categorising the jihadis...kashmir jihadis who attack only india, anti hindu jihadis who bomb indian every where including afghanistan...now the poor pakis whave oto create a new class..serial bombing jihadis.Newly added to thsi typology is the bank rober jihadis.
Take it from me pakis, jihadis are general purpose killers, they will kill any one whom the mullah orders them to kill. That si what has happened in karachi.
The poor reporter of the item below is mystified, better he reads and understands about jihad from my posts.
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Series of blasts terrorises, mystifies Karachi
By Tahir Siddiqui
KARACHI, July 7: Terror struck the city six times within an hour on Monday as unknown terrorists triggered a series of blasts that wounded over 50 people, including children and policemen.
The blasts occurred between 7:05pm and 7:50pm, with an interval of eight to 10 minutes, at Banaras Chowk, Orangi Town, Pak Colony and Shahrah-i-Noorjahan.
The DIG of Karachi West, Aleem Jaffery, told Dawn that 41 people were injured in the series of blasts at five places. “No one was killed in the blasts, however,” he added.
Observers and analysts found the serial bomb attack in the provincial capital different from the usual pattern of terrorist strikes in the country. Most of the bombs used were of a low intensity and designed more to spread panic than to cause large-scale human casualty.
Democracy is the Best Revenge?
In an islamic country, there can be no concept of democracy, it has to have a prefix, basic democracy, enlightened democracy ..../ A klalifayat is what the book talks about.
In a country where everything has to eb per sharia, the notion of people ruling is absurd. The govt has to be same as what the book says, or that existed at the time when the laws given in the book made sense.
It is good to see that in FATA, the real pakistan is emerging, the DVd shops are burnt, music stores are burnt...thousands are watching public beheading..as in the times of teh book.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 8, 2008 02:46 am
In the great islamic tradition, every thing is the tribal attiotude of revenge and honour. No doubt in a country where honor killing is legal, it is understandable that democracy is a matter of revenge against mushy, against nawaz and others on a personal level.In an islamic country, there can be no concept of democracy, it has to have a prefix, basic democracy, enlightened democracy ..../ A klalifayat is what the book talks about.
In a country where everything has to eb per sharia, the notion of people ruling is absurd. The govt has to be same as what the book says, or that existed at the time when the laws given in the book made sense.
It is good to see that in FATA, the real pakistan is emerging, the DVd shops are burnt, music stores are burnt...thousands are watching public beheading..as in the times of teh book.
The Unbearable Lightness of Seeing
nmkad,
Thanks for that. Mullahs who spent their entire life time learning the book is not as knowledgebla as you. You are not fooling any one regarding what jihad means and what sharia means.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 8, 2008 02:39 am
Re: # 8nmkad,
Thanks for that. Mullahs who spent their entire life time learning the book is not as knowledgebla as you. You are not fooling any one regarding what jihad means and what sharia means.
Muslim Ghettoisation
First law. Law of islamic virulence
. The virulence of islam in a country is inversely proportional to its distance from mecca. That is why paki islam is more virulent than that in indonesia.
Second law. Law of jihadic borders.
. There will laways be fights on jihadic borders, that is borders between a muslim country and a non-muslim country.
Indo pak ( hindu muslim), Isreal palestine ( jew muslim), Philippines ( christian muslim )
Posted by
jayp
Jul 7, 2008 02:51 am
There are two laws of sociology, known as the first and second laws of islam, which help non muslims understand muslims.First law. Law of islamic virulence
. The virulence of islam in a country is inversely proportional to its distance from mecca. That is why paki islam is more virulent than that in indonesia.
Second law. Law of jihadic borders.
. There will laways be fights on jihadic borders, that is borders between a muslim country and a non-muslim country.
Indo pak ( hindu muslim), Isreal palestine ( jew muslim), Philippines ( christian muslim )
Muslim Ghettoisation
Suicide bombing in afghanistan against indians, suicide bombing in pakistan against fellow muslims, suicide bombing in iraq against shias.
I wonder why the world is suspicious of muslims.
By teh way, is there any mullah criticising any of this done in the name of islam.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 7, 2008 02:42 am
A good day...and you wonder why muslim gettos.Suicide bombing in afghanistan against indians, suicide bombing in pakistan against fellow muslims, suicide bombing in iraq against shias.
I wonder why the world is suspicious of muslims.
By teh way, is there any mullah criticising any of this done in the name of islam.
Muslim Ghettoisation
All through the world, where there is an islamic frontier, there has been wars and the only way to contain thsi is to fence them out, deny technology and travel, and leave them there to fight and kill among them.
That is happening in pakistan, afghanistan and other muslim countries.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 7, 2008 02:35 am
Muslim ghettos of the west are part of a global trend to limit the jihadic crimes emnating from muslim countries. India has fenced paki border, israel has fenced islamic frontier, bangladesh is being fenced out.All through the world, where there is an islamic frontier, there has been wars and the only way to contain thsi is to fence them out, deny technology and travel, and leave them there to fight and kill among them.
That is happening in pakistan, afghanistan and other muslim countries.
London’s Knife-Crime Epidemic:
Good o know that ahmadia hating true green pakistani has solutions for the english. Do you have any fix for the suicide bembers of pakistan and the madrassas that produce them
Posted by
jayp
Jul 7, 2008 02:25 am
Asif,Good o know that ahmadia hating true green pakistani has solutions for the english. Do you have any fix for the suicide bembers of pakistan and the madrassas that produce them
The Unbearable Lightness of Seeing
mkamd,
What are you telling, do you mean that there was no public beheading two weeks ago???
At times, even for paki it is good to accept the truth. What does the book say about truth...well there is no truth other than what is written in teh book. Well now I can understand you, it is not in the book, so it did not happen.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 7, 2008 02:19 am
Re: # 6mkamd,
What are you telling, do you mean that there was no public beheading two weeks ago???
At times, even for paki it is good to accept the truth. What does the book say about truth...well there is no truth other than what is written in teh book. Well now I can understand you, it is not in the book, so it did not happen.
Yet Another Immigrant Story
Tata Group alone employs 19,000 Americans and has invested over 3 billion dollars, besides operating 16 businesses in US, a report by US-India Business Council (USIBC) and industry body FICCI said.
Indian employers and their American workers contribute billions of dollars to the Federal, state and local treasuries by way of wages, corporate taxes, payroll taxes and income taxes, the study s
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That is a good story for the indian immigrants. Anything comparable from pakistan....guantanamo has the highest concentration of pakistanis after karachi?
Posted by
jayp
Jul 5, 2008 11:37 pm
NEW DELHI: Amidst the row in US over outsourcing, a study has said that big corporates like Essar, HCL, Tata, Mahindra and Wipro have generated over 30,000 jobs for US citizens in recent years.Tata Group alone employs 19,000 Americans and has invested over 3 billion dollars, besides operating 16 businesses in US, a report by US-India Business Council (USIBC) and industry body FICCI said.
Indian employers and their American workers contribute billions of dollars to the Federal, state and local treasuries by way of wages, corporate taxes, payroll taxes and income taxes, the study s
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That is a good story for the indian immigrants. Anything comparable from pakistan....guantanamo has the highest concentration of pakistanis after karachi?
Yet Another Immigrant Story
May be you are new on chowk. On chowk, articles remain ignored till some one fires it up with some good old paki bashing. There is nothing menacing about it, simple fun. Nothing personal, Except for pakistanis, typically indians do indulge in name calling.
It will be very hard for you, but make an attempt not to make personal insults, state facts, make political extrapolations, look into teh future
Posted by
jayp
Jul 5, 2008 11:31 pm
matloob mian,May be you are new on chowk. On chowk, articles remain ignored till some one fires it up with some good old paki bashing. There is nothing menacing about it, simple fun. Nothing personal, Except for pakistanis, typically indians do indulge in name calling.
It will be very hard for you, but make an attempt not to make personal insults, state facts, make political extrapolations, look into teh future
Yet Another Immigrant Story
Jerusalem (PTI): Some 2000 distinguished guests, including Israeli President Shimon Peres and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, were treated with Indian food at a party thrown by the US Ambassador in Israel, Richard Jones, to celebrate America's Independence Day this weekend.
Israel's curry queen, Reena Pushkarna's 'Tandoori' restaurant was specially called upon to cater to the honoured guests that included some foreign dignitaries.
"It's a great honour. It's the first time that guests at American Independence Day celebrations here were treated to Indian food. It shows the growing acceptance of Indian cuisine across the globe and that it can also serve as a means of diplomacy", Reena told PTI.
'Tandoori' in Tel Aviv has indeed served in promoting diplomatic process in the region as the first location of choice for peace talks between the Israelis, Palestinians and Norwegians.
When BBC telecasted the first handshake between Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Palestinian leader Yaser Arafat on the lawns of White House it suddenly showed 'Tandoori' saying that the peace talks did not commence in Jerusalem or in Oslo, but in the Indian restaurant based in Tel Aviv.
A household name in Israel, Reena has been dubbed by the local media as 'the most successful Indian in Israel', 'our beautiful lady of Indian food' and 'India's unofficial cultural envoy to Israel'.
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This is an immigrant story worth emulating. Is there anything called pakistani restaurant in the US.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 5, 2008 11:28 pm
Indian food for US Independence day celebrationsJerusalem (PTI): Some 2000 distinguished guests, including Israeli President Shimon Peres and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, were treated with Indian food at a party thrown by the US Ambassador in Israel, Richard Jones, to celebrate America's Independence Day this weekend.
Israel's curry queen, Reena Pushkarna's 'Tandoori' restaurant was specially called upon to cater to the honoured guests that included some foreign dignitaries.
"It's a great honour. It's the first time that guests at American Independence Day celebrations here were treated to Indian food. It shows the growing acceptance of Indian cuisine across the globe and that it can also serve as a means of diplomacy", Reena told PTI.
'Tandoori' in Tel Aviv has indeed served in promoting diplomatic process in the region as the first location of choice for peace talks between the Israelis, Palestinians and Norwegians.
When BBC telecasted the first handshake between Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Palestinian leader Yaser Arafat on the lawns of White House it suddenly showed 'Tandoori' saying that the peace talks did not commence in Jerusalem or in Oslo, but in the Indian restaurant based in Tel Aviv.
A household name in Israel, Reena has been dubbed by the local media as 'the most successful Indian in Israel', 'our beautiful lady of Indian food' and 'India's unofficial cultural envoy to Israel'.
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This is an immigrant story worth emulating. Is there anything called pakistani restaurant in the US.
Yet Another Immigrant Story
I AM a lecturer by profession, an employee of a college in the capital.
This vacation, I planned to go to the United Kingdom at the insistence of my relatives in the UK. I applied for visa and then came the impossible job for filling the form. With patience I managed to complete it.
After completing all the requirements I paid about Rs10, 000 as visa fee. After 20 days I went to collect my passport. It was strange that the visa was not issued, but the fee was charged.
The very reason for refusing visa was that the British were afraid that I may stay for a longer duration.
W
Deducting processing fees is justified, but 10,000 is a huge amount of money. I went to the visa office twice and found a kilometre-long line of people standing outside for a visa. I wondered how many of them would lose their money, time and energy if their visa is refused.
It is a thought-provoking moment for our government. We, the Pakistanis, are being bluffed and looted in our own country and the government is doing nothing to protect the rights of the citizens.
Who can answer my query? Does the British commission have any logical answer to it?
SIMMI GUL
Islamabad
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The above is from dawn of today.
Gul mian, do not apply to go to the UK, no body is asking you to go there. Have you visited all of pakistan, if not go to swat, give my regards to baitullah
Posted by
jayp
Jul 5, 2008 11:16 pm
Applying for UK visaI AM a lecturer by profession, an employee of a college in the capital.
This vacation, I planned to go to the United Kingdom at the insistence of my relatives in the UK. I applied for visa and then came the impossible job for filling the form. With patience I managed to complete it.
After completing all the requirements I paid about Rs10, 000 as visa fee. After 20 days I went to collect my passport. It was strange that the visa was not issued, but the fee was charged.
The very reason for refusing visa was that the British were afraid that I may stay for a longer duration.
W
Deducting processing fees is justified, but 10,000 is a huge amount of money. I went to the visa office twice and found a kilometre-long line of people standing outside for a visa. I wondered how many of them would lose their money, time and energy if their visa is refused.
It is a thought-provoking moment for our government. We, the Pakistanis, are being bluffed and looted in our own country and the government is doing nothing to protect the rights of the citizens.
Who can answer my query? Does the British commission have any logical answer to it?
SIMMI GUL
Islamabad
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The above is from dawn of today.
Gul mian, do not apply to go to the UK, no body is asking you to go there. Have you visited all of pakistan, if not go to swat, give my regards to baitullah
Yet Another Immigrant Story
matloob what are you talking about.
The comments to madiha are spot on. Sge should rather write about the life of a paki-US citizen in karachi, rather than a paki in the US. This story has no authenticity, it is not an immigrant story, it is the story of daughter of a US citizen.
Integrity is important when one is tryoing to tell a life story.
Let me check the book, there is no concept of integrity in the book, it is simply obedience, no wonder you canno understand what i am talking about.
Posted by
jayp
Jul 5, 2008 11:12 pm
Re: # 23matloob what are you talking about.
The comments to madiha are spot on. Sge should rather write about the life of a paki-US citizen in karachi, rather than a paki in the US. This story has no authenticity, it is not an immigrant story, it is the story of daughter of a US citizen.
Integrity is important when one is tryoing to tell a life story.
Let me check the book, there is no concept of integrity in the book, it is simply obedience, no wonder you canno understand what i am talking about.
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