Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 08:13 am
Re: # 217 nope..its already written on paklinks...so copy from that...
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cheti chand ..you mean ????
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 08:13 am
Re: # 219 what moon god......cheti chand ..you mean ????
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Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 04:53 am
zeemax...its so long taht chowk have to developed special page which can tolearte all this long stuff...
Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 04:51 am
LOL..actually... my speed is 2 pots / hours..all this is already written stuff on different sites by me..just copy pasted it..hehehe
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i will mail you..
found this good article ...
http://www.jamatuddawa.org/marsad/jul07/mujjul07/sufiizam.htm
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 02:38 am
thankyou asif sahab....i will mail you..
found this good article ...
http://www.jamatuddawa.org/marsad/jul07/mujjul07/sufiizam.htm
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just reading from Bukhari and quran...and giving fatwa is just kidding......
the 4 imams and thier thousands of students and scholars throughout 1200 yeras cannot be on wrong path...never ever.....
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:45 am
which they follow...mere words of Bukhari...and neglecting the ASOOL on which 4 greatest fuqhas developed the whole system of Fiqah.....just reading from Bukhari and quran...and giving fatwa is just kidding......
the 4 imams and thier thousands of students and scholars throughout 1200 yeras cannot be on wrong path...never ever.....
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they are not "ONLY" scholars.....the greater work in whole islamic history is done by non-arabs...not these arabs.... and they have no right to "Impose" their version of islam on 85 % majority who love and respect and follow 4 imams....
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:44 am
they think...only they are right rest are deviated and "taqleed" is haram...while they themselves do taqleed of ahmed bin hanbal....ibne tamiyya and Albani...etc....they are not "ONLY" scholars.....the greater work in whole islamic history is done by non-arabs...not these arabs.... and they have no right to "Impose" their version of islam on 85 % majority who love and respect and follow 4 imams....
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neither i will say that Abu Hanifa is not Imam Azam...Imam Azam was prophet(pbuh)....just a funny point......is there any comparison between a nabi and a ummati !!!!!!
neithet i will say to any person that since you do not do Rafa Yadain and Ameen Biljahar..... so you whole Namaz is wasted ..and also previous all namazs....
neither i will call a woman who do not take the Niqaab of face that she is not observing purda......
neither i will blindly follow the fatawas of Ibne Baaz...although we all respect them..but not blindly......
neither i will issue the kufr fawas on Ashraf Ali Thanvi...Ahmed Raza Khan Brelvi ...and Maulana Maudoodi......(have arbs in 200 years produced such great scholars)
neither i will rank my prophet(pbuh) just as my "Elder Brother".......
neither i will support the "extremist jihadi " version of islam...which by large is bringing destruction is Iraq...and Pakistan also.....
neither i will say to any sect and school of thought that only "Ahle Hadees" are 1 sect ...rest all are 72 sects ..which will go to hell by hadees.....
etc etc .....
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:43 am
neither i will blindly follow the Ibne Tamiyya...and Ibne Jauzzia.......neither i will say that Abu Hanifa is not Imam Azam...Imam Azam was prophet(pbuh)....just a funny point......is there any comparison between a nabi and a ummati !!!!!!
neithet i will say to any person that since you do not do Rafa Yadain and Ameen Biljahar..... so you whole Namaz is wasted ..and also previous all namazs....
neither i will call a woman who do not take the Niqaab of face that she is not observing purda......
neither i will blindly follow the fatawas of Ibne Baaz...although we all respect them..but not blindly......
neither i will issue the kufr fawas on Ashraf Ali Thanvi...Ahmed Raza Khan Brelvi ...and Maulana Maudoodi......(have arbs in 200 years produced such great scholars)
neither i will rank my prophet(pbuh) just as my "Elder Brother".......
neither i will support the "extremist jihadi " version of islam...which by large is bringing destruction is Iraq...and Pakistan also.....
neither i will say to any sect and school of thought that only "Ahle Hadees" are 1 sect ...rest all are 72 sects ..which will go to hell by hadees.....
etc etc .....
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neither ...i have a habbit of calling people deviated...by just difference of opinion.....
neither ...i will ridicule the great sufia of islam...through which the isl;am spreaded in most of the parts......
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:43 am
neither i will accept that hadees which is considered as true by "ONLY" Albani.......all great muhadiseen are not psycho !!!!neither ...i have a habbit of calling people deviated...by just difference of opinion.....
neither ...i will ridicule the great sufia of islam...through which the isl;am spreaded in most of the parts......
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attitude towards 4 greatest faqeehs of 1400 yeras...and thousands of great scholars accepted thier knowledge...greatness...and wisdom..they are not mad..fool...and ignorant.....who has the courage to challenge thier intellect !!!!!
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:42 am
But i will not stand with those who have a "conservative" and "hard core" attitude towards 4 greatest faqeehs of 1400 yeras...and thousands of great scholars accepted thier knowledge...greatness...and wisdom..they are not mad..fool...and ignorant.....who has the courage to challenge thier intellect !!!!!
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similarly ......in case of 4 greatest faqeeh...you can oppose them in various issues...but if someone says that they are wrong...then he should have his mental check up !!!!!!!
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:42 am
for example...you can oppose the scholar like Syed Maudoodi in 1 issue..10 issues...100 issues......but if someone says he is deviated person ....i think he is the most foolish and deviated himself.......can you challenge his rest of wisdom..intellect and his whole life deeds for islam...how shameful is that on 1 or 2 point difference....one should negate his whole life hard work....similarly ......in case of 4 greatest faqeeh...you can oppose them in various issues...but if someone says that they are wrong...then he should have his mental check up !!!!!!!
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and that anothger reason....saudia ulemas ,most of the time do "Taqleed" of Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal...or Ibne Jauziyya or Ibne Tammiyya....!!!!!
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:41 am
beleive me..i am not saying you or anyother ahle hadees....but just pointing out that this attitude....according to my little knowledge,...against the great fuqhas...and sufis...and prophet(pbuh) is not suitable....and that anothger reason....saudia ulemas ,most of the time do "Taqleed" of Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal...or Ibne Jauziyya or Ibne Tammiyya....!!!!!
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neither all sufis are deviated as usually quoted by ahl;e hadees scholars....our whole Pakistan and india religion will be in hindus part if there were not these sufis !!!!!!!!
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:41 am
greatest 4 faqeehs of all times...salif salihoon are not mad...foolish and ignorant....they were best people as they were near the age of prophet(pobuh) as in hadees.....neither all sufis are deviated as usually quoted by ahl;e hadees scholars....our whole Pakistan and india religion will be in hindus part if there were not these sufis !!!!!!!!
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Its not necessary that what Albani considered any hadees false..its actually false...its blind following of l;bani...whyn not people do this research to find which Asnaad are more true and other way round....
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:40 am
Just fighting the whole life that who do Rafa Yadain and who donot...who say Ameen Biljafhar and who do not........just bring hatred in the society.....Its not necessary that what Albani considered any hadees false..its actually false...its blind following of l;bani...whyn not people do this research to find which Asnaad are more true and other way round....
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there are also other books which are of ahadees....Imam Bukhari was also human and definitely there are mistakes in Bukhari..its not quran.....so blindly follow it is also not acceptable.......
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:40 am
yes Bukhari is great book...but everything is not Bukhari...everything is not Bukahari...everything is not Bukhari.....there are also other books which are of ahadees....Imam Bukhari was also human and definitely there are mistakes in Bukhari..its not quran.....so blindly follow it is also not acceptable.......
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i am sorry to say ...i will never ever rely on these foolish rulings ...i respect saudi ahle hadees and also pakistani ahle hadees scholars ...but thier "extremist" views in certainissues..i never ever accept that...they are not the care-takers of who is wrong and who is right......
Posted by
dawa-i-dil
Sep 15, 2007 12:40 am
its very long debate.....and out of topic....but just saying that "Taqleed" is haram .....Abu Hanifa fiqah is 70 % wrong...people blindly follow him...ridiculing the all sufis but just taking example of one and two sufis....etc etc......i am sorry to say ...i will never ever rely on these foolish rulings ...i respect saudi ahle hadees and also pakistani ahle hadees scholars ...but thier "extremist" views in certainissues..i never ever accept that...they are not the care-takers of who is wrong and who is right......
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