The Irreverent Hero Islam Forgot
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mahfari
Mar 20, 2008 09:54 pm
Re: # 8 Akcheema sahib why you nare worried about Islamic references always?
Reinterpretation of Islam in Turkey
Posted by
mahfari
Mar 1, 2008 03:10 pm
Re: # 13 Khud nhin bedalty qURAN KAU BADAL DEY\TY HIEN!
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
And you did not comment on hte questions of your 49 interact's answers...please doanswer after reading my interacts.
As to verses you have mentioned, they are part and parcel of Quran and they are toexhort thehuman beings to face the inevitable reality of violence when someone is bent upon destroying your identity and mere existance,and in self defence raising arms is inhuman? It isthe most humane aspect of human natureand bravery is not facing the realities,bravery is to facing uptohterealities? In entire life of Holy Prophet peace be upon him ,there werenot more than 1000 persons died from both sides as a result of struggle .... which as per your favourite evolutionary ideas was survival of the fittest!.... Even in the most so called civilized societies the violence hasnotbeen finished and it is a painful relaity.
I consider imprisonment of human beings as the worst form of violence and I merequote that in UK alone over 82000 prisoners are in jailsand in PUnjab whose population is many times more than UK's there are 100000 ( about) compare the ratio with populkation then you willknow the levelof violence and intolerance in the society and this is agaisnt the backdrop that in Pakistan the sytems is far more corrupt and shoddy one.
To fight for one'srights and survivalis not exhorting toviolence and It willneevr be, fight of people in Kosov, Chechenya' Palestine
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:27 pm
Re: # 354 Violence by choice or violence for the sake of violenceis condemnable and it can never be justified by any divine or human reasoning.And you did not comment on hte questions of your 49 interact's answers...please doanswer after reading my interacts.
As to verses you have mentioned, they are part and parcel of Quran and they are toexhort thehuman beings to face the inevitable reality of violence when someone is bent upon destroying your identity and mere existance,and in self defence raising arms is inhuman? It isthe most humane aspect of human natureand bravery is not facing the realities,bravery is to facing uptohterealities? In entire life of Holy Prophet peace be upon him ,there werenot more than 1000 persons died from both sides as a result of struggle .... which as per your favourite evolutionary ideas was survival of the fittest!.... Even in the most so called civilized societies the violence hasnotbeen finished and it is a painful relaity.
I consider imprisonment of human beings as the worst form of violence and I merequote that in UK alone over 82000 prisoners are in jailsand in PUnjab whose population is many times more than UK's there are 100000 ( about) compare the ratio with populkation then you willknow the levelof violence and intolerance in the society and this is agaisnt the backdrop that in Pakistan the sytems is far more corrupt and shoddy one.
To fight for one'srights and survivalis not exhorting toviolence and It willneevr be, fight of people in Kosov, Chechenya' Palestine
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 09:05 am
Re: # 348 Dear it has alsoincreased inequality,blood shed,environmental degradation,if a medicine kills 70 persons and cures 30 is it advisable to use for 100 people?
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
Mullahs are forceof status quo,not of change and perhapsof retrogression in some cases.But MMA did one good thing in NWFP that after death of a person the land share willautomatically transfer to daughters/women instad of forcible delivery to her brothers and male relatives as perthe cases.But it is very rarethat gooddeedslike this weredone.
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:58 am
Re: # 346 They always understood and its making wasnot by these Mullahs itwasby educatedsoulsliekIqbal, Jinnah and others , but they were notcalled secualrsand they arenot but yes they were alsonot called Muslimsby Mullahs!Mullahs are forceof status quo,not of change and perhapsof retrogression in some cases.But MMA did one good thing in NWFP that after death of a person the land share willautomatically transfer to daughters/women instad of forcible delivery to her brothers and male relatives as perthe cases.But it is very rarethat gooddeedslike this weredone.
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
It is against the human freedoms and ideals and localculturaldiversity,it is a power wiothout any direction.
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:50 am
Re: # 343 Agreed on first part, but dear Globalization is exacerbating teh differnces and accentuating the ghetto thinking ,it is a threat to peace adn good only for global giants of rich and powerful.It is against the human freedoms and ideals and localculturaldiversity,it is a power wiothout any direction.
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:47 am
Re: # 341 Agreed there stress is on rituals and they have taken position of papacy in Islamwhich has noplace here!
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:44 am
Re: # 339 If he did it washis personal issuebut other I think is proven by the carefulstudy ofthis issue in Pakistan and if you remember there was a huge procession which reached uptoAmerican Embassy and BB government ordered firing and more than two peoplewerekilled and scores injured , but the damage had been done before thsi Salman's bopok wasknown to only a smallaudience afterthis he got a status of celeberity in West and of a Satan in MUslim wolrd. things have very strange bases!
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:41 am
Re: # 337Thereis noplace forgroupsadn church like organizations in Islam. After Holy Prophet peace be upon him there is only one institution to be protected that is of family and allother things comeafetrwards.. but here things are different.
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:39 am
Re: # 335 I think the greatest issues of Muslimsare poverty and ignorance...and now a days another scourgeextremism..May Allah save us from all these!
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:38 am
Re: # 334 My research proves thsi ,ifthere is different perspective ,then let me know!
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
But the societies haev right to decideabout theriown goods and bads and no one can decide from outside to determine that howshould localsocietioes develop and live... it is theei own choice.
Why anti-Semitism is a legal offence in West and Europe? If it can be applied on the bases of histroy m,then why other societies can not make theri own laws as to their own identity? In your words why this cherry picking? Is alldiscrimination for mUslims only? is,nt it racism? Is,nt it injustice? have courage and answer these questions aND also think over the answersto your questions and feelfree to ask more !
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:23 am
Re: # 329 Perhaps you are not awareof this issue of complexity and multidimensioanl approach about Holy Prophet peace be upon him.it is not a HAdd and it si Tazier ,that Judge shoulddecideasper the situation and in West there is deleberate attempt to invoke negative feelings and passions about Holy Prophet peace eb upon him and to taunt Muslims ...I think it is excess from both sides in many matters.But the societies haev right to decideabout theriown goods and bads and no one can decide from outside to determine that howshould localsocietioes develop and live... it is theei own choice.
Why anti-Semitism is a legal offence in West and Europe? If it can be applied on the bases of histroy m,then why other societies can not make theri own laws as to their own identity? In your words why this cherry picking? Is alldiscrimination for mUslims only? is,nt it racism? Is,nt it injustice? have courage and answer these questions aND also think over the answersto your questions and feelfree to ask more !
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
As to question of Salamn Rushdie is concerned facst are different and perhapsmind boggling also,this issue was stirred by late Kauser Niazi in 1988-89 when PPP came to power afetr death of Zia and Benazir Bhutto many stalwarts of PPP out of power,Kauser Niazi hoped to grab some post in BB regime but tono avail,then he wrote an articlein daily Jang and he first time raised the isseu of Salman Rushdie and he quoted and translated some portions in the article and it was picked upby Mullahs fro personal agendas and also by Iranian clergy and then it was buzz word in Islamic world and further many persons came forward to offer moneyt for this Salman Rushdie .
It was motivated with personal agenda and personal greed and it was a politicalissue where religion was used forpersonal goals. Ever heard this perspective?
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 08:17 am
Re: # 329 You have certain very very deep inferiority complextversus the society where you live ,I mean in an alien culture and what is the purpose in celeberating the New YEar?ForChristians it is a pagan festivaladjusted with Christmas,and in China they ahev theier own NEw Year forMuslismthe most celeberated and happy events are Eids... Do you rememeber them or lost theri memories also?As to question of Salamn Rushdie is concerned facst are different and perhapsmind boggling also,this issue was stirred by late Kauser Niazi in 1988-89 when PPP came to power afetr death of Zia and Benazir Bhutto many stalwarts of PPP out of power,Kauser Niazi hoped to grab some post in BB regime but tono avail,then he wrote an articlein daily Jang and he first time raised the isseu of Salman Rushdie and he quoted and translated some portions in the article and it was picked upby Mullahs fro personal agendas and also by Iranian clergy and then it was buzz word in Islamic world and further many persons came forward to offer moneyt for this Salman Rushdie .
It was motivated with personal agenda and personal greed and it was a politicalissue where religion was used forpersonal goals. Ever heard this perspective?
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
As to my answerto interact 49 the questions are in built and they areanswer toyour doubts,if you can accept that these arfedoubts.
Your answers lack coherence and consistency I raised questions about destiny and ideasof Quran and they logically flow from your ideas...and questioning is basis of knowledge.If you can question then it si all right, if soem oneother does then it is not tothe point.Learn to discuss with ratioanland logic and stick tothe questiosn araised and take debate to new points instead of wayward answers please!
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 27, 2008 06:48 am
Re: # 298 That mourning is not accepted by majority of Muslims and it wasinitiated in presenmt form by fatmid s in 927 AD and it is not a fundamentalcreed.As to my answerto interact 49 the questions are in built and they areanswer toyour doubts,if you can accept that these arfedoubts.
Your answers lack coherence and consistency I raised questions about destiny and ideasof Quran and they logically flow from your ideas...and questioning is basis of knowledge.If you can question then it si all right, if soem oneother does then it is not tothe point.Learn to discuss with ratioanland logic and stick tothe questiosn araised and take debate to new points instead of wayward answers please!
Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem”
Posted by
mahfari
Feb 26, 2008 11:32 pm
Re: # 292 Please read my interact on answer to 49 this issue I specifically answered these questions! - mahfari
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