The Battle for Pakistan #91 - You are both saying that you would like to kill all people with beards, control peoples thoughts, and force surgical procedures on the population....sounds like Nazism.

I also remember you saying (some posts ago) that you wouldn't dare speak your beliefs in public in Pakistan. So let me get this straight...you do all the talking on the net and wouldn't dare utter a peep otherwise....is that about right? Hamidm...since you do live in Detroit it may be wise for your bullshit within reasonable limits because even this cowardly net based machoism of yours falls into legal gray areas nowadays and could get you locked up in a real situation...something you are not used to.

The Battle for Pakistan #75 Kuntakinte
#79 Hamidm

You guys are saying stuff on the net that can pretty much get people locked up nowadays...talking about killing mass numbers of people in Pakistan...and you say that Mullahs are extremists?!!

The Transformation of the Punjabi Man: Pashtunization or Militarization? Extremely long, boring and sounds like yet another patronizing white man talking down to "less developed" about the reasons for their backwardness. Mr Berk, you are a little late for that whole white man's burden speech.

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir #120....what makes you so different from the jahil Afghani Takfiri who says the same things about others whom he deems less Muslim than himself? face it tahmed...you are just as much of a fringe extremist in your camp as any of those mullahs you despise.

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir #125..."as the horrible hindoos are so fond of pointing out, most pakis are dogs in search of a leash ....."

Hamidm...unless I'm mistaken you too are a Pakistani and your American citizenship, doesn't change the fact that you too would be one of those dogs seeking a leash. Considering that you tend to jump all over the place as far as your views are concered, I'm inclined to think that putting you a leash isn't such a bad idea.

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir #115 - "imran khan is a simple fool who should stick to cricket, philanthrophy and bedding white women ......."

I personally have grown fond of Imran and will likely be voting for him this time around. One thing you gotta say about him is that he'd definitely be doing better than our current PM who couldn't even get Condi to give him some.

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir #105...I hate cricket so I wouldn't know...I'm never there to watch.

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir Arjun is like the buck toothed, unemployed redneck from some Hickville USA town boasting about the power and wealth of his country.

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir #98...yes Arjun I am sure you have a great deal to do with India's economic miracle and spectacular rise, what with you spending the majority of your life on Chowk.com refreshing your browser in anticipation of delivering more of your 'Incredible India' speech to yet another poster who probably talking about something else entirely.

How about you take a clearer look at the picture; I am sure you are aware, since you have such a hand in India's rise, that Muslims have an enormous impact on everything from Bollywood to India's nuclear capabilities. To put it in perspective for you, we have Pakistan all to ourselves and we also have India to share with piss drinkers like you. Amongst the Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and everyone else, only the Muslims have been able to make a separate homeland for themselves in addition to also maintaining a large population and hold in India. You Hindus still live in the same India with everyone else as it always was for you and we Muslims are a part of that as well. I for one have plenty of family in both in India and in Pakistan. In addition to Pakistani families having influence in Pakistan, it is not uncommon for Pakistani families to have great influence in India...and you can visit some of the weddings and see who guests are as an example of the standing in Indian society of these Pakistani families. We also do enormous business in India.

While you spend your life in some dark little room waiting to post your next little bitchy post on this site, the world is changing out there and us Muslims/Pakistanis are even there in your India doing what you probably are not. Why not get a life and do something more for your own life that you can boast about rather than an economic growth story that you have nothing to do with.

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir #7 - Hamidm,

Your characteristic bias against Islam and Muslims and hatred for the same is obviously expressed in this little tit-bit of yours.

".... okay, name two other than abdus salam (a kafir), naguib mahfuz (who you tried to kill) and orhan pamuk (who you are going to try to kill) ....... peace prizes and people who died in andalusia a thousand years ago do not count ......."

Maybe you dont know this but even Maulana Abdul Sattar Edhi of Pakistan is in line for the Nobel Peace Prize. Another is Mohammad Yunus. And your rant about Orhan Pamuk is irrelevant because the fact that a small group of Turkish Nationalists being upset at him for his views on the Armenian genocide is no reason to argue that he is not Muslim. There are others also, but that wouldn't matter to you because you are probably either a Hindu with a muslim sounding nick with a major gripe against Muslims, or you are some poor Pakistani fool who thinks he is the next Ataturk and the way to his destiny is to lurk these forums and continue to deliver passionately deliver his manifesto.

Hamid...let me ask you...when does this plan of yours move out of the realm of the net and into the real world so we can see the strength of your arguments in a more meaningful way?

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir The test of your conviction, Hamidm, will be if you come to Pakistan and make these statements in a public forum and work towards that wonderful Secular Society that you so aspire to. Who knows, you could be the Kamal Ataturk of Pakistan...I am sure you would love that. Grab the next flight and make the speech Hamid...I say you should go to stand in the middle of Karachi...lets say at Metropole Hotel, and deliver your message to the people of Pakistan. Lets see how much your ideas have any basis in reality rather than your clouded mind....by the way..how was your beer with tahmed?

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir Hamidm and other "enlightened" people of this forum really do show their quality when they simply cannot express their point of view without hurling insults at Islam, Muslims and the Prophet (PBUH). It doesn't augur well for these fools because they do not realize that they are no different from the uneducated Takfiri from Afghanistan who also sees everyone else as being unclean, unenlightened and worthy of such abuse.

You people are a bunch of hypocrites who talk a bunch of crap and have no respect for anyone else. Specially you Hamidm, you simply seem to be frothing at the mouth and constantly refreshing your webpage to see if anyone on Chowk has posted anything which you can respond with another one of your characteristically arrogant posts which assume that all other points of view are ignorant and therefore even when you go on talking sleeze;

"..... and before someone objects to this discourse, let me say that this discussion is more relevant and definitely more intellectually stimulating than discussing the khilafat and the rantings of an illiterate prohet holed up in a cave ........."

Everyone should be ok with it because the dumb-ass from Detroit believes that he's got all the answers. I wonder if you are so bold in public, even in front of the black Muslims in your own home town. I would love to see you mouth of in front of people like this rather than be a hero from behind the comfortable anonymity of your computer.

An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir That seems to be an awful lot bashing that the author seems to be dishing out on the basis of one statement taken from their website. Without any further context or information, the author expects everyone to rely on him to be giving it like it really is. Why not? We all know that journalists/writers are the most honest people amongst us. The war in Iraq is one example of that honesty.

Mr Khan...I don't know much about Hezbut Tahrir but it looks to me like you just had an axe to grind simply because of the way you have presented your case. Doesn't seem too well thought out and looks like another guy out to bash any maulana he can find with the same tired bullshit that we have all heard. And by the way, Muslims are not as backwards as you seem to think....we do have Nobel Peace Price winners, scientists and people at the top in every category mentioned. They are working in India, US, Germany, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and almost any other country you can think of. You just seem to be too negative and unfair.

How Dubai Works On my last trip to Dubai I was standing in line at Customs waiting like everyone else. I noticed a couple of very young locals, who had been hired for some purpose at the airport, walking around inspecting the line and ensuring that people are not switching lines. Pretty silly to have 5 guys doing that but hey, they have the money for it. I also noticed that these locals were nice to all the Europeans, but those poor Indian laborers who were also in line with us would get yelled at for the smallest things. The guy at the front of our line stamping everyones' passports was some young idiot too, he didn't exactly know what he was doing and it was taking forever. After 1 hour of waiting, people started getting tired and started complaining. One poor Indian worker dared to just ask how much longer it will take when those local line enforcers came along and started shouting at him and asking, "you want to know how long it will take huh?!" and they took him with them into a room obviously meant for people who had been caught doing something wrong. We didn't see that poor guy again, I am guessing he probably got deported. His only crime was to be a laborer who dared to ask how much longer it was going to take. Thats how Dubai works!

How Dubai Works Dubai is doing marvelously, but that is only economically and that is just one part of the whole story. The other side is inhuman treatment of labor, the officially sanctioned prostitution industry, money laundering, racism against all except the British (who were masters until two decades ago and now they are the senior managers), etc. The local population of Dubai does have a culture of racism towards many other people which often goes to inhuman lengths...anyone who has lived there can tell you horror stories about some poor Indian bloke working for a rich Arbab who regularly abused him both physically and otherwise. Legal rights of non-locals have always been precarious. Lets not forget how destructive their institutionalized practice of prostitution has been...how many little girls and women and even boys do you think have been scarred for life over the last several decades in Dubai's sex trade. They've decided to don suits and an air of respectability now, but lets not forget what these guys have been doing until now and what they are still doing under the dark side of this economic boom. Bet Shaikh Mohammad doesn't believe in freedom of the media enough to allow open reporting about this stuff from inside Dubai.

Overall Dubai lets you know that you may be moved aside at any time if someone else comes along who has more money and is willing to spend it. They have privatized most beaches so that the lower income residents of the city can no longer afford to go to the beaches simply because there aren't many left within a short/affordable distance. If you live on rent in Dubai, your choice has been to either fork up the ever higher rates or go to hell (Ras Al Khaimah)...this is ok from the capitalist point of view that supply and demand should determine these things...but there is a little thing called humanity which says that an such rapid increases will naturally not be affordable to vast numbers who will have no choice but to be forced out...this doesn't augur well for building much of a society...its just a place to shop, do some business and, if you are into that sort of thing...have sex with one of Dubai's 200,000-500,000 (not sure of the figure) prostitutes.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/dark_side_of_du.html
Da rk Side of Dubai's Boomtown

November 13, 2006 10:20 AM

Brian Ross and Jill Rackmill Report:

Workersbus_nr It may be the world's biggest boomtown, but human rights groups say that Dubai's gleaming towers are being built on the backs of exploited foreign workers.

A tiny Arab emirate on the Persian Gulf, Dubai has been making a big splash as a city on the rise -- with a glittering skyline, world-class shopping malls and luxury resorts, all fueled by the grand vision of its absolute ruler, Sheikh Mohamed bin Rashid al Maktoum.

But in a scathing new report released in Dubai this weekend, the organization Human Rights Watch says the migrant construction workers building Dubai are little more than indentured servants in the wealthy kingdom, one of seven emirates in the United Arab Emirates (U.A.E.).
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In an exclusive 20/20 story to air this Friday, Nov. 17, the ABC News investigative team went inside Dubai to learn how the emirate has grown so far so fast.

Just days after ABC News began asking questions, the government of the U.A.E. announced a series of reforms to improve the conditions of workers.

Clotheslines_nr_1 Dubai's building boom has been made possible by some 500,000 migrant construction workers, most from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Many work 12 hours a day, six days a week, in extremely hot temperatures that have led to illness and, in some cases, death. The workers live in crowded camps, with eight or more men sharing one small room.

In the Human Rights Watch report, called "Building Towers, Cheating Workers," researchers say that the average migrant worker receives a salary of about $175 a month. There is no minimum wage in Dubai, and some workers make as little as $8 a day.

Through extensive interviews, Human Rights Watch researchers found that employers in Dubai routinely abuse workers by withholding their wages for their first two months, along with their passports as "security" to keep them from quitting.

But the migrant workers have little freedom to quit since many have borrowed thousands of dollars to get the jobs to begin with, paying "recruiters" visa and travel fees, which under U.A.E. law should be paid by the employers, not the construction workers.

When workers arrive in Dubai, the construction jobs sometimes pay less than the recruiters originally promised. Desperate to repay their loans, the workers in those cases are trapped. And under U.A.E. law, it is illegal to switch jobs without permission from your employer. Unions are illegal, and striking workers have been deported.

"They are living in fear and in extreme anxiety," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch, adding that some workers, feeling hopeless, have even committed suicide.

Dubai's defenders point out that construction wages and conditions are comparable, if not superior to those in neighboring countries.

"Certainly they are going to be making more money than they would from the villages that they come from," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch. "But the very fact that they are so poor and so vulnerable is no reason that they should be taken advantage of to the extent that they are being taken advantage in the U.A.E."

After a series of well-publicized strikes and complaints over the last year, the U.A.E. has made some efforts to improve conditions for workers.

A law was passed to halt construction between 12:30 p.m. and 4:30 p.m. during the scorching summer months when temperatures reach well over 100 degrees. But Human Rights Watch said not all employers follow this law, and there are few government inspectors to enforce it.

Earlier this year, the U.A.E. announced that trade unions would be legalized. But to date, the government has failed to do so, according to Human Rights Watch, which says that without a strong message from the rulers of the U.A.E., little will change.

"It doesn't happen," Whitson said. "These problems are not being addressed by the U.A.E. government in a serious way, in a way that says, 'We are going to put employers who violate the law in jail. We are going to send the message that this is not how you are going to do business in the U.A.E. We are going to impose hefty fines and penalties.'"

Just last week -- only days before Human Rights Watch report was released but a decade after the building boom began -- Sheikh Mohamed bin Rashid al Maktoum, ruler of Dubai, ordered stricter enforcement of the country's labor laws. In addition, he called for improved medical care for workers, a special court to address their labor complaints and an increase in the number of inspectors monitoring camps and workplaces.

Political Quandary in Pakistan If you watch CNBC today you will notice the brat witch (Bibi) protesting and making statements and even being able to go to the judges colony. In a time when television is totally controlled by the state and we all know that no one is allowed to do this kind of thing without government approval, Bibi is out there convincing people that this display is not with government collusion. God...we Pakistanis are so friggin dumb...I think we deserve her!