The Emperor is wearing Albanian Clothes Ref Urstruly #11

[TO ALL KOSOVARS "HEARTIEST FELICITATIONS" TO YOU

FROM YOUR BRETHERN IN PAKISTAN.

Inshallah, One day Chechens, Kashmiris, Philipinos, and Thai Muslims will win their freedom too.]

And, one day, The Faithful shall triumph over those Christian dhimmis of East Timor who somehow managed to escape the bonds of servitude they owed our Islamic Brethren in Indonesia.

And we shall all stick our @rses in the air and worship Allah. He is Da Man!!!

Drama of Succession - Pakistan People’s Party Ref majumdar #222

[We can opt for a dictatorship but it if we do, it is not necessary that we will end up with a Pinochet or a Deng or a Lee. We cud end up with a Kim or an Omar or a Pol Pot or a ZAB. Just think about it.]

And you think we would be better off under Raoul G@ndu?

Remember Sanjay G@ndu?

Drama of Succession - Pakistan People’s Party Ref masanamuthu #258

[The Muslims of the regions that constitute India now thought Pakistan would be a strong military state and would safeguard the Muslims remaining in India and voted overwhelmingly for Pakistan. They were drinking the kool-aid of Jinnah.]

Actually, you are wrong.

Jinnah was drinking Chaudhri Rehmat Ali's kool-aid.

Indian Muslims were drinking the water personally passed by Jinnah-bhai, giving new meaning to the term "Musalman Pani".

Drama of Succession - Pakistan People’s Party Ref dost_mittar #201

[Mantolives#196:

"It also envisaged states where Non-muslims would have have equal rights."

This raised my curiousity. Would it be possible to reproduce the exact wording of that statement? Thanks.]

In Pakistan, whether you are a Muslim or a Hindu, the punishment for throwing away anything printed in Urdu script is death, for having defiled the Koran.

Didn't you know that?

That was the equality Jinnah-bhai was willing to offer the minorities.

Talking to Jamil Dehlavi about Infinite Justice and More Ref MantoLives #8

[As for Gandhi being a saint. Yes and 3 billion people also believe that some dude Jesus Christ was the son of God.]

Yasser, dear boy, go on and add "And 1.5 billion people believe that an illiterate Arab goatherd was a Prophet."

Come, on. You can do it. Just try it once.

[Perception and "belief" doesn't mean anything. Facts are everything. Gandhi was a racist casteist Hindu fascist bigot.]

And Mohammad was a pervert.

Shahjahan’s “Moorti” and Other Absurdities in Agra Ref mohar11 #140

[mullah32

Another ignoramus paki pulling stuff from youknowhere... Hinuds were travelling the "globe" when your imagined bedouined ancestors still swinging from the tree... :)

there was heavy trade and cultural exchanges with southeast asia. That's why the area is also called Indo-China.And the largest country there called Indonesia - it still has hindu cultural underpins - even though recent islamic surge is spreading there to the detriment of the country....

The largest hinud temple is actually in cambodia, Angkor Wakt.

As far as - travels beyond the western borders, I don't have that much information. may be somebody can throw some light there...]

According to Mullah32 and his campfollowers, only the camel-jockeys have gone across the world in search of trade.

He will make an exception for his friends the Chinese. Wait for him to claim that Christopher Columbus was actually a Muslim and that all American-Indians were Muslims who lost track of their Islamic heritage!

It is well-known that Emperor Ashoka sent his own daughter Sanghamitra as his envoy to Sri Lanka to spread Buddhism there.

Legend has it that the Chinese martial arts were taught to them by an Indian holy man who went to China.

Alexander on his return to Greece from India took with him an Indian philosopher.

These are examples of peaceful transmission of Indian culture to foreign lands.

In terms of conquests, the kings of the Chola country (roughly, the central part of today's Tamil Nadu state) repeatedly waged war against and reduced to submission kingdoms in Sri Lanka, Burma, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and Cambodia. The Burmese, Thai and Sinhalese languages are written in a modified form of Pali script. Many people in these lands converted to Hinduism. In fact, the Kings of Thailand adopt the regnal name Rama upon ascension to the throne; the current king, Bhumibol, is officially Rama IX. The ancient capital of Thailand, about 50 miles from Bangkok, is Ayutthaya (Ayodhya). Bangkok itself has among its names the word Ratnakosin. The Royal barge is called Suwannahongsa (Swarna hamsa - Golden Swan). You can see thousands of incidents of Hindu culture and language in Thai society.

After the volcanic eruption in 1883 of Krakatoa, Muslim missionaries falsely stated that the volcanic eruption was due to the worship of false gods by the Hindu population of Indonesia and this was Allah's punishment. The population converted en masse to Islam. I wonder how Mullah32 will characterize the tsunami of three years ago that laid waste Indonesia. Is that Shiva's revenge?

Borobudur near Jogjakarta in central Jave is a huge Buddhist stupa. The island of Bali and parts of nearby Lombok are still Hindu.

Malay language has heavily borrowed from Tamil and Sanskrit several words. The word for 'book' is 'pustaka', a Sanskrit word. Currently, it is 'buku' because of the Malaysian zeal to create a new vocabulary. I can give thousands of examples of such Indian influence on Southeast Asia.

Mulla32 needs to get his head out of his @rse.

Leaders, Heroes and Mountains Ref nb #6

[Mr Dutta, you have a typo,...Edmund, as you know, not Admund.]

He is a bong so it is Admund for him!

6th December 1992 Babri Masjid at Ayodhya - One down and 100,000 more to go.

There should be a ban in India on the construction of any new mosques or churches.

Give the Mozzies a taste of their own medicine. Do they allow you to build a temple anywhere in Saudi Arabia?

All imported religions should be put on notice that they are allowed to survive in India at the sufferance of Hindus.

A single peep from them about religious tolerance or civil rights should be met with the religious tolerance Hindus had lived under for 1000 years: a jizya on non-Hindus, no jobs in private/public sector for non-Hindus, and beating them into Islam -- oops, submission.

Any Christian agitating for the right of conversion and quotas in education and jobs ought to be nailed to the cross.

Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism Ref Mullah32 #90

[mahfari: btw, John Keay in his excellent book A History of India, supports your thesis that it was with the arrival of muslims that we start getting significant written records of indian politics, economy and society. thus, e.g., much of the earlier history of the deccan is gleaned from pottery tablets, stone pillars etc. which were sometimes meaningful as in case of Asoka, but often merely told tall tales about the king that are of no scientific value. he gives the example of one tablet that credits the king as having a light coming out of his big :-).]

I was going to say that this was a matter of Evolution in action, as there is a need to find the proper receptacle at night ;-)

but then you had to spoil it all with

[#92 Posted by tahmed32 on December 5, 2007 10:39:57 am
that last sentence has a missing word "toe" at the end.]

Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism Ref Urstruly #87

[Re: # 61 laddu
Bhai you seem to be very angry for some reason. And as I understand it your anger is based on the content of some work (Chandrakirti ) that was destroyed a few centuries ago. If that work was destroyed then how did you review it and if you didn't then how can a non-existent mythical thing upset you? This is insane.

My invitation to your salvation is for your own good. God is absolutely and dispassionately indifferent to my recognition or your recognition of Him. Our recognition of Him is for our own good. I am only extending this invitation (dawat) to you and all on this website because my own salvation lies in this. Whether or not you accept this invitation has no consequences to me or any other for I have conveyed what I was charged with.

However, as a fellow human being I would like you to succeed. Isn't it an absolute truth that anger is the most potent of the forces that misguides human beings? Please shed the anger; it will help you realize the beauty around us.]

Chowk Editors, what happened? Did somebody hijack Urstruly's password? The man has become mellow!!

Or do you think he got a visit from the FBI and that made him change his tune?

Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism Ref mahfari #75

[Re: # 67 Read Bhagwat Gita and think over it , you will know its meanings!]

The Bhagawad Gita says to kill the evil-doers even if they are your kin.

Nuke Pakistan NOW!!!

Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism Ref Maharana #68

[Destruction of temples and universities done by anyone in whatever name cannot be judged by any historian objectively.]

However, the entire world will applaud if Mecca is nuked.

[The perpetrators will always claim innocence under some pretext.]

No, we can claim retribution for 9/11.

[But the bottom line is intolerance towards any other view but their own.]

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Cicero, as paraphrased by Barry Goldwater.

Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism Ref Urstruly #59

[Dear People!

There is no God but One God. I invite you to recognize Him and thus find your salvation. Let me introduce Him to you. God! There is no God but He, the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal. No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep. All things in heaven and earth are His. Who could intercede in His presence without His permission? He knows what appears in front of (the future or the hidden) and behind (the past and undisclosed) His creatures. Nor can they (His creatures) encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills. His throne extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them, for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.

God, the Most High, speaks the truth.]

If you are referring to Mr. Allah, I think I will pass.

I am not as dumb as the camel jockeys.

Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism Ref mahfari #51

[Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?

why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?]

We also worship Small-Pox in the form of Goddess Mariamman in the hope that we won't get infected by small-pox.

Does that explain it?

Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism The following post may be offensive to professors of Islamic Thought in minor American colleges and also to professors of Wimmin's Studies, African Studies, etc., and those who consider schistosomosis to be the best thing that ever happened to mankind.

Ref mahfari #33

[Re: # 30 except sporadic military instances of destruction there is no historical record substantiate the fact that Muslims destroyed the viharas, stupas, and temples.

How can we guess of huge constructions throughout histroy about a place where the Shudras were not allowed to enter the temples! How many Brahmans were in India who could control the temples and other religious places.

When Arth shastra said pour hot copper in the ears of Shudras if eh listens to sacred Vedas , then how could they have loved to construct temples... so that North indai would ahve been littered with these religious places?

As to South Indai how amny temples we ahve other than famous ones in Kernataka, Orissa, and some other border areas near the coasts and in Gujerat also!]

You are just another Islamic thug making excuses for Islamic thugs of the past who used The Book to End All Books as the justification for destroying all native cultures.

First come to South India before saying there are very few famous temples in South India and that North India would not have had many temples because the lower castes would not have willingly constructed temples into which they were banned from entering.

Come to Kanchipuram, some 2 hours from Chennai and see the dozen or so famous temples in that one town. Come to Kumbakonam and see the hundreds of temples in that non-decript little town. See the huge temples at Tanjore and at Gangai Konda Chola Puram. Visit Srirangam and see the largest temple complex in India. Stop at every little village in between and view the temples there. Then tell us that there are not many temples in South India.

By the way, the admission of lower-castes into temples in South India started after 1937, when the brahmin leadership of the Congress took the initiative for permitting entry into the temples for the lower castes. To this day, a special sect of brahmins are the only ones permitted to offer puja in these temples.

On the other hand, the Vishwanathji Temple in Varanasi (Benares) allows every person to enter the innermost sanctum of the temple and touch the idol.


So talk about the equality of man in Islam while killing Shias, Ahmadiyyas, Aga Khanis, etc., and while putting your women into tent-like burqas.

I am NOT buying your sh!t.

Go Jamiat Go "Go Jamiat Go" is an encouragement to Jamiat to carry on with its activities.

The author should have said "Jamiat, Go Away" or "Jamiat, Get Lost".