Will President Bush Invade Iran?
which is already experiencing the Iraq/Afghanistan fallout.
yup...pureland is experiencing the fallout of the retaliation on afghanistan, not the fallout of pakiland's use of islamic terrorism as a state policy..
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 08:49 am
#39 Posted by Ras on October 30, 2007 8:13:59 amwhich is already experiencing the Iraq/Afghanistan fallout.
yup...pureland is experiencing the fallout of the retaliation on afghanistan, not the fallout of pakiland's use of islamic terrorism as a state policy..
Will President Bush Invade Iran?
who dont go the local store without taking out their station wagon
station wagon? ROTFL...you're sooo out of touch..
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 08:44 am
#47 Posted by borivili_express on October 30, 2007 8:37:13 amwho dont go the local store without taking out their station wagon
station wagon? ROTFL...you're sooo out of touch..
Voice from Waziristan
Black Tuesday: The View From Islamabad
Posted by Romair Sep 23, 2001 02:29 pm
The US will then push for a UN based solution which will divide Kashmir into three parts, with an independent Valley (something the Kashmir Study Group (and I) have been suggesting for a while). I think Musharraf has plans to stay as President for the next ten years. The US will ensure that it assists him during that time, and I see an independent Valley within the next five to ten years.
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 06:40 am
seriously...Black Tuesday: The View From Islamabad
Posted by Romair Sep 23, 2001 02:29 pm
The US will then push for a UN based solution which will divide Kashmir into three parts, with an independent Valley (something the Kashmir Study Group (and I) have been suggesting for a while). I think Musharraf has plans to stay as President for the next ten years. The US will ensure that it assists him during that time, and I see an independent Valley within the next five to ten years.
Voice from Waziristan
Black Tuesday: The View From Islamabad
Posted by Romair Sep 23, 2001 11:48 pm
Zahra #412: I had suggested before the interview that Benazir is now cornered. The whole world is now aware of her corruption. Her two trump cards of denouncing the military govt. and presenting herself as a, ``westernized`` alernative are down the drain, now also. She cannot criticize Musharraf as the US (and most Pakistanis) have now seems to have figured out that he is the right man to back.
Black Tuesday: The View From Islamabad
Posted by Romair Sep 23, 2001 02:29 pm
Asif Naqshbandi #401: As someone who has followed the Kashmir issue more closely and personally than probably anyone on this site, I think I can safely state that Pakistan`s position is now stronger than it has ever been historically on the Kashmir issue. The chances of a Kashmir solution now are greater than they have ever been. India has never been in such a defensive position on this issue, as it is right now.
The US stance has always been to support the right of self-determination in Kashmir. The US is not going to do anything against Pakistan now. Nothing. Zero. This is a new phase of a long-term alliance, with Musharraf at the head. He is becoming a hero in the US media circles. His definition of differentiating between fighting terrorism and supporting freedom fights is now going to become the international standard, as he is one of the only people in the world whose govt. has actively participated in both. A friend of a friend in the Pakistani Foreign Service told me that Bush called Musharraf and emotionally told him if he opposed the US, Pakistan would turn into Afghanistan, and if he supported the US, the US would ensure that Pakistan becomes a very prosperous country. Mush
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 06:39 am
why not? It's fun...Black Tuesday: The View From Islamabad
Posted by Romair Sep 23, 2001 11:48 pm
Zahra #412: I had suggested before the interview that Benazir is now cornered. The whole world is now aware of her corruption. Her two trump cards of denouncing the military govt. and presenting herself as a, ``westernized`` alernative are down the drain, now also. She cannot criticize Musharraf as the US (and most Pakistanis) have now seems to have figured out that he is the right man to back.
Black Tuesday: The View From Islamabad
Posted by Romair Sep 23, 2001 02:29 pm
Asif Naqshbandi #401: As someone who has followed the Kashmir issue more closely and personally than probably anyone on this site, I think I can safely state that Pakistan`s position is now stronger than it has ever been historically on the Kashmir issue. The chances of a Kashmir solution now are greater than they have ever been. India has never been in such a defensive position on this issue, as it is right now.
The US stance has always been to support the right of self-determination in Kashmir. The US is not going to do anything against Pakistan now. Nothing. Zero. This is a new phase of a long-term alliance, with Musharraf at the head. He is becoming a hero in the US media circles. His definition of differentiating between fighting terrorism and supporting freedom fights is now going to become the international standard, as he is one of the only people in the world whose govt. has actively participated in both. A friend of a friend in the Pakistani Foreign Service told me that Bush called Musharraf and emotionally told him if he opposed the US, Pakistan would turn into Afghanistan, and if he supported the US, the US would ensure that Pakistan becomes a very prosperous country. Mush
Voice from Waziristan
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 06:35 am
should I go on?
Voice from Waziristan
Islams Challenge
Posted by Romair Sep 28, 2001 08:53 pm
When it rains, it pours:
``US to offer emergency military sales to Pakistan
$75m package may comprise gunship helicopters, equipment for patrolling Pak-Afghan border`` (NEWS, Pakistan)
It seems like the same is starting to happen again. However, this time there is a different twist. Unlike during the Afghan war, the average American is now also aware of Pakistan, and is starting to support Pakistan. Also, the US senators and senior govt. officials are making it a point to state that they will not, ``dump`` Pakistan, this time around.
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 06:33 am
yup..when it rains, it pours...now all the helicopters are being used to bomb the tribals...Islams Challenge
Posted by Romair Sep 28, 2001 08:53 pm
When it rains, it pours:
``US to offer emergency military sales to Pakistan
$75m package may comprise gunship helicopters, equipment for patrolling Pak-Afghan border`` (NEWS, Pakistan)
It seems like the same is starting to happen again. However, this time there is a different twist. Unlike during the Afghan war, the average American is now also aware of Pakistan, and is starting to support Pakistan. Also, the US senators and senior govt. officials are making it a point to state that they will not, ``dump`` Pakistan, this time around.
Voice from Waziristan
Islams Challenge
Posted by Romair Sep 29, 2001 01:03 pm
rjanjua #257: ``That man has done an excellent job so far (considering the fact that he is a gunner).``
He is also the Chief commando. So that is a another negative on the intellectual side. However, what people keep forgetting is that he was born in Delhi. His parents and grandparents grew up in India. This fact alone makes him more balanced and intelligent than all us easily-provoked ignoromoses from the Northeast. He has the intelligence, shrewdness, and cunning of an Indian, and the aggressiveness and fearlessness of a Pakisani. Best of both worlds. Unlike, some previous military and civilian commanders who had the intelligence, shrewdness, and cunning of a Pakistani, and the aggressiveness and fearlessness of an Indian. And he is a flaming liberal (a side of his personality, he has yet to show), which is the kind of personality the currently overly conservative Pakistan needs at the helm.
I had been backing him from the day the coup was carried out. Infact, it was very easy to do so. I have worked with and met enough Generals to be able to differentiate between the genuine honest ones and the self-serving ones. At the expense of sounding like a racist, a non-MQM Muhajir leadership is the best kind of leadership for Pakistan, at the moment, in my opinion. This is exactly what the current leadership is. And if Pakistanis would develop enough common sense to leave behind their theoretical Western democracy books, and think with Pakistani practicality, they will realize that that this is exactly the leadership Pakistan needs for the next ten years.
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 06:31 am
wow..look how right romair was about mushy..Islams Challenge
Posted by Romair Sep 29, 2001 01:03 pm
rjanjua #257: ``That man has done an excellent job so far (considering the fact that he is a gunner).``
He is also the Chief commando. So that is a another negative on the intellectual side. However, what people keep forgetting is that he was born in Delhi. His parents and grandparents grew up in India. This fact alone makes him more balanced and intelligent than all us easily-provoked ignoromoses from the Northeast. He has the intelligence, shrewdness, and cunning of an Indian, and the aggressiveness and fearlessness of a Pakisani. Best of both worlds. Unlike, some previous military and civilian commanders who had the intelligence, shrewdness, and cunning of a Pakistani, and the aggressiveness and fearlessness of an Indian. And he is a flaming liberal (a side of his personality, he has yet to show), which is the kind of personality the currently overly conservative Pakistan needs at the helm.
I had been backing him from the day the coup was carried out. Infact, it was very easy to do so. I have worked with and met enough Generals to be able to differentiate between the genuine honest ones and the self-serving ones. At the expense of sounding like a racist, a non-MQM Muhajir leadership is the best kind of leadership for Pakistan, at the moment, in my opinion. This is exactly what the current leadership is. And if Pakistanis would develop enough common sense to leave behind their theoretical Western democracy books, and think with Pakistani practicality, they will realize that that this is exactly the leadership Pakistan needs for the next ten years.
Voice from Waziristan
A World Upside Down
Posted by Romair Oct 5, 2001 11:58 am
Pakistan is now in an interesting position.
It is already the most allied of allies with China. It is also now a very strong ally of the US. Also, Pakistan, along with Saudia Arabia, has become the most critical country amongst the leadership (or benchmark) of the Muslim world of 55 countries.
Pakistan is now in a much stronger position on Kashmir now than it was at the time of the coup.
If the Indian leadership is realistic, it should reach a settlement on Kashmir now. Otherwise, in two years, Pakistan will most likely be in a stronger situation than now. If things pan out the way I think they are, i.e. Musharraf as a powerful President keeping the corruption of an elected assembly in check, and the West, China and Islamic world pumping money into Pakistan, in ten years Pakistan may reach an economic situation where Pakistan will then refuse to negotiate on Kashmir.
If Pakistan returns to its traditional 6% growth rates, and is simultaneously an ally of China, US and the Islamic world, then the options available to India in Kashmir will be much more limited than they are now. And even now, they are much more limited than they were at the time of coup.
So if anyone in India is listening: negotiate on Kashmir while you still have some cards up your sleeve, would be my advice.
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 06:26 am
we need some insights into the pakistan situation from the poster called romair..he was a brilliant analyst..his ability to predict events is unmatched..A World Upside Down
Posted by Romair Oct 5, 2001 11:58 am
Pakistan is now in an interesting position.
It is already the most allied of allies with China. It is also now a very strong ally of the US. Also, Pakistan, along with Saudia Arabia, has become the most critical country amongst the leadership (or benchmark) of the Muslim world of 55 countries.
Pakistan is now in a much stronger position on Kashmir now than it was at the time of the coup.
If the Indian leadership is realistic, it should reach a settlement on Kashmir now. Otherwise, in two years, Pakistan will most likely be in a stronger situation than now. If things pan out the way I think they are, i.e. Musharraf as a powerful President keeping the corruption of an elected assembly in check, and the West, China and Islamic world pumping money into Pakistan, in ten years Pakistan may reach an economic situation where Pakistan will then refuse to negotiate on Kashmir.
If Pakistan returns to its traditional 6% growth rates, and is simultaneously an ally of China, US and the Islamic world, then the options available to India in Kashmir will be much more limited than they are now. And even now, they are much more limited than they were at the time of coup.
So if anyone in India is listening: negotiate on Kashmir while you still have some cards up your sleeve, would be my advice.
Voice from Waziristan
....the only way talibanisation can occur in Pakistan is if the govt. keeps bombing waziristan.....and that too, at the encouragement of usa.....
yup..quite the dilemma...either you bomb the pakis with the jihadi bent or the US bombs you...the result is the same...bombs in pakiland..
to attack pakistan and will carry out an explosion in pindi or islamabad....
yup..either it's the jihadi bombs going off in pindi or US bombs...
dhobi ka fauji, na allah ka na amrika ka..
pakistan, through the stupidity of a few heavily pro-usa elite, is in the first stages of becoming iraq......
you mean like the pro-US elite who were itching to join the US invasion of afghanistan so much so that they were willing to give up their "IT careers"?
or the pro-US elites who thought, with uncle sam's wind in it's sails, pureland could afford to continue to nurture the jihadis and sic them on india...
......there is a simple solution, stop bombing waziristan.....stay out of us wars
this one line explains why pureland is so messed up..pakis, even to this day, have deluded themselves into believing that they were willing participants in the war on terrorism and weren't dragged into it by threats..
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 05:55 am
#34 Posted by bulleya on October 30, 2007 5:31:40 am....the only way talibanisation can occur in Pakistan is if the govt. keeps bombing waziristan.....and that too, at the encouragement of usa.....
yup..quite the dilemma...either you bomb the pakis with the jihadi bent or the US bombs you...the result is the same...bombs in pakiland..
to attack pakistan and will carry out an explosion in pindi or islamabad....
yup..either it's the jihadi bombs going off in pindi or US bombs...
dhobi ka fauji, na allah ka na amrika ka..
pakistan, through the stupidity of a few heavily pro-usa elite, is in the first stages of becoming iraq......
you mean like the pro-US elite who were itching to join the US invasion of afghanistan so much so that they were willing to give up their "IT careers"?
or the pro-US elites who thought, with uncle sam's wind in it's sails, pureland could afford to continue to nurture the jihadis and sic them on india...
......there is a simple solution, stop bombing waziristan.....stay out of us wars
this one line explains why pureland is so messed up..pakis, even to this day, have deluded themselves into believing that they were willing participants in the war on terrorism and weren't dragged into it by threats..
Will President Bush Invade Iran?
there's a silver lining..the government will be forced to cut the cross-subsidy..
in any case, it won't go to 150...think strategic reserve and saudi arabia.
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 04:40 am
#28 Posted by Dash_Dot on October 30, 2007 3:46:32 amthere's a silver lining..the government will be forced to cut the cross-subsidy..
in any case, it won't go to 150...think strategic reserve and saudi arabia.
Voice from Waziristan
the mullah dude thought the move to the new job would weaken the jihad...the support for jihad didn't actually diminish.
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 30, 2007 04:37 am
#32 Posted by rf786 on October 30, 2007 2:49:10 amthe mullah dude thought the move to the new job would weaken the jihad...the support for jihad didn't actually diminish.
Will President Bush Invade Iran?
Zogby Poll: 52% Support U.S. Military Strike Against Iran
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Most see Clinton as the presidential candidate best equipped to deal with Iran, followed by Giuliani and McCain—but many express uncertainty
A majority of likely voters – 52% – would support a U.S. military strike to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon, and 53% believe it is likely that the U.S. will be involved in a military strike against Iran before the next presidential election, a new Zogby America telephone poll shows.
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 29, 2007 09:44 pm
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1379Zogby Poll: 52% Support U.S. Military Strike Against Iran
John Zogby Videoclips Available here
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Most see Clinton as the presidential candidate best equipped to deal with Iran, followed by Giuliani and McCain—but many express uncertainty
A majority of likely voters – 52% – would support a U.S. military strike to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon, and 53% believe it is likely that the U.S. will be involved in a military strike against Iran before the next presidential election, a new Zogby America telephone poll shows.
Thank You Suicide Bomber! No one is talking about my 1.5 Billion anymore!
india has handled itself very well vis-a-vis the US unlike pureland(that has let itself be a complete female of the canine species)..
you can clearly see that..even a meaningless vote against iran was made out to be a huge concession..
a lot of india's dealings have been on it's own terms..the pakis, otoh, just take whatever crumbs are tossed their way and then go on to bomb their own people under US pressure...
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 29, 2007 09:26 pm
#168 Posted by dost_mittar on October 29, 2007 6:28:31 pmindia has handled itself very well vis-a-vis the US unlike pureland(that has let itself be a complete female of the canine species)..
you can clearly see that..even a meaningless vote against iran was made out to be a huge concession..
a lot of india's dealings have been on it's own terms..the pakis, otoh, just take whatever crumbs are tossed their way and then go on to bomb their own people under US pressure...
Voice from Waziristan
yup..if the koolaid he drank had one part per million of alchohol, he'd be dead by now...
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 29, 2007 06:10 pm
#29 Posted by mohar11 on October 29, 2007 1:29:44 pmyup..if the koolaid he drank had one part per million of alchohol, he'd be dead by now...
Thank You Suicide Bomber! No one is talking about my 1.5 Billion anymore!
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 29, 2007 06:05 pm
here it is..
Thank You Suicide Bomber! No one is talking about my 1.5 Billion anymore!
Some Indians might feel happy at the prospect of Pakistan getting its just desserts for sending jihadis into India but that would be a mistake.
sorry...you people keep making the claim that a civil war in pureland is bad for india but never come up with any convincing arguments to back that up..it's always "it'll be bad, trust us"
I, for one, am greatly enjoying pakis whack pakis..
Posted by
arjun5
Oct 29, 2007 06:02 pm
#159 Posted by dost_mittar on October 29, 2007 10:11:54 amSome Indians might feel happy at the prospect of Pakistan getting its just desserts for sending jihadis into India but that would be a mistake.
sorry...you people keep making the claim that a civil war in pureland is bad for india but never come up with any convincing arguments to back that up..it's always "it'll be bad, trust us"
I, for one, am greatly enjoying pakis whack pakis..
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