The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military Re: # 48 Chetan

Glad to see your true colors!!!!!!!!!! I would request staff to keep this posted here so that people can learn the truth!!!!!!!!!!!

The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military Re: # 41 pmishra2

Please don't try to befool people with your emotional rhetoric. Put forward facts. If you have any argument against the theory presented by the author, please do enlighten us.

The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military Re: # 40 pmishra2

Pretty neat. Hit pakis where they really get hit - get emotional like foolish Musharraf. You love us, don't you!

I would rather ask about the high role being displayed by indians in Kabul and Afghanistan and instigating unrest in Baluchistan?

And thanks for the credit for civil society in Pakistan though!

The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military Re: # 38 muqaddam

What do you mean by referring to "toilet paper". Your own thought seem to be rotten! I would request editors to ban people who simply ridicule a poster without talking sense and logic.

The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military Re: # 35 iron_mask

I am a casual visitor here, but I think Ahmed Qureshi has done a nice job with this analysis. You only tried to ridicule him, but did not put forward any of your own arguments against his. If you have any, please do share.

The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military Re: # 26 #27 by rf786 vanguard

Seeing how some people seem scared by this article, lends credence to the theory of the author. However, I only disagree him in justifying the stance taken by Musharraf against this JOINT effort of US and india to destabilize Pakistan. Even if Musharraf has correctly decoded this plan, he has been unable to raise an effective counter initiative. He has only helped the agenda of destabilization of Pakistan progress faster. Did not he really helped it when he launched operation in Wazirstan and now in Swat to turn Taliban against us so as to make them vulnerable to be used against us. Please note, beofore these operations, their full attention was only to root foreign elements out of Afghanistan. If FOREIGN elements are to expelled from the borders of Pakistan and Afghanistan, then first and foremost, US and NATO forces should leave the terriotry. Their very presence lets credence to the presence of other "foreign" elements over there. Mr. Musharraf should take a tougher stance rather than the cringling attitude he has adopted.

Pakistan at War If GEO is a CIA venture, don't you think that Al-Qaida is a fictious characters created by the same agency. I did not hear of it before 9/11. A fictious character that it can use to wage war in this country. We have created Taliban as a result of fighting this so-called war.

Foreign Factor in our Higher Education Re: # 5 einsteinwallah

Yes! Technology transfer in itself should be a separate subject and Pakistan is in need to develop experts in this area. There is need to scientifically analyze the problem of technology transfer and then design our policies accordingly. In addition to merely getting degrees from foreign universities, it has other dimensions which need to be considered before an effective policy for this purpose can be developed. I think social scientists has a role to play in this area. We harp on the tune of developing technology and view it something distinct from the rest of the society. We have not paid attention to develop ourselves in social sciences. Some able social scientists should analyze problems and technology needs of our society and then suggest some ways to address the issue.

Foreign Factor in our Higher Education Re: # 4

Well, they have a nice word for slave mentality. It is called "Colonial Mentality". It is defined here at wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_mentality

"Colonial mentality refers to institutionalised or systemic feelings of inferiority within some societies or peoples who have been subjected to colonialism, relative to the mores or values of the foreign powers which had previously subjugated them. The concept essentially refers to the acceptance, by the colonised, of the culture or doctrines of the coloniser as intrinsically more worthy or superior. The subject matter is quite controversial".

I think the last sentence is there just to save face.

Also, do not you think that we should close down our own universitites if these are to be discriminated against so-called foreign Ph.Ds?

Think in social terms also, it would create class system in the society and in the end everybody would be vying to go abroad for a Ph.D. like they have done it in our elementary schools by creating local schoold systems and foreign school systems [O/A levels, etc]. Everybody tries to get his/her child admitted to western type school.

Foreign Factor in our Higher Education Re: # 4

Well, they have a nice word for slave mentality. It is called "Colonial Mentality". It is defined here at wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_mentality

"Colonial mentality refers to institutionalised or systemic feelings of inferiority within some societies or peoples who have been subjected to colonialism, relative to the mores or values of the foreign powers which had previously subjugated them. The concept essentially refers to the acceptance, by the colonised, of the culture or doctrines of the coloniser as intrinsically more worthy or superior. The subject matter is quite controversial".

I think the last sentence is there just to save face.

Also, do not you think that we should close down our own universitites if these are to be discriminated against so-called foreign Ph.Ds?

Think in social terms also, it would create class system in the society and in the end everybody would be vying to go abroad for a Ph.D. like they have done it in our elementary schools by creating local schoold systems and foreign school systems [O/A levels, etc]. Everybody tries to get his/her child admitted to western type school.

Foreign Factor in our Higher Education Re: # 1 You would better ask the author. He might have his interests in higher education. That said, I tend to agree with you that there should be a debate on primary and elementary level education which is in fact the very foundation of our education system. By the so-called reforms of the current government, this has also been devasted. Do you think that English should be introduced as a means of education from class 1. It may well be introduced as a compulsory language, but to make it means of teaching all other subjects is cruelty and utmost and despicable show of slave mentality. It is also widening the already wide chasm between the rich and the poor. Those who can afford to teach in English and those who cant.