The God Delusion Re: # 55
Regards....

Amartya Sen is product of last part of Bengal Renaissance ( started with Iswar Chandra Bandyopadhyay). In India, such persons are quite rare now (even Viswa Bharti had become political place).

Charbak philosophy is atheist. He used to lead very poor life and due to his apathy towards rituals, he used to be treated badly by other sages (specificaly Brahmins)....

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted #41 #42
Laddu, Hamid...
Some pockets of mini-Pakistans in India is more arab slave than that of Pakistan....

Hamid is correct.
Some areas of Hyderabad do not look like it is in India....
Burakha covered women, lot of children with a woman, strange smell of perfume (very strong), bearded and capped street vendors, mosques and arabic/urdooo script....


Mini-Pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb7vFZz8lMA

Cyb er city
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_jCkx2jwoQ

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 52
Ekalavya...
If you take Babri arguement, Somnath Temple was destroyed 17 times. Then Kashi, Mathura..... So, please calculate how many moslems should die in India....
Moslems had so much of criminal record, it should not have existed in India and some part of Asia. But then again, we (indians) forgive and forget, unless and until the same issue haunts us again....When Mughals exceeded their limit Marathas and Sikhs have kicked them from power, but then again, they have not wiped out the middle east barbarism. During British period, we had enough opportunity- we have lost it...So, suffer....

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 14
Laddu...

hamid is quite true...
How many people die in local train accidents in Mumbai alone? More than 2000/year....face it sir...
How many people lost their lives in Koshi flood? Thousands...

We need tackle islamic barbarism for different reason, not for number of people got killed...

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 4
Urs...

Tipu and his father was occupying the chair of Mysore king (some internal problem within royal family). It is not only Brits, Marathas also kicked out that barbarian. Mysore city people do not adore your hero. Majority of the people of that region ( Mandya) respect royal family ( Wodeyars)....


Regarding Pakistan...
Why don't you look towards yours masters in middle east? All of Pakistan prays facing Mecca, and Mecca is not doing anything!!!!!

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 137
DM...
contd...

So, Khalsa was formed to handle Islamic barbarism rather than to emulate moslems. It is like village defence commitees in Jammu to handle jihadis from Pakistan...

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 136
Hari...
Though it may look rhetoric....To stop terrorism, you have to consume less oil or stop depending upon the middle east oil resources. That is the source of all evil. Rest can be handled any time.

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 129
DM...
"...all these happened after Guru...".

In fact, Sikhism was supposed to be like other Vaisnavite movements. The islamic barbarism forced the Sikhs to create Khalsa- a gang like organisation. It helped India to great extent. A Punjabi friend told me a story. There was a practice in Punjab to donate eldest boy of every family to Khalsa to tackle Mughal barbarism. That way it spread accross Punjab.

Even during direct-action day (1946/1947), Sikhs taken positive steps in protecting Indian civilians against moslems(Kolkata).

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 84
Ekal...

"Whatever you or any other non-Muslim may think of Muhammad and revelations, Muslims fully believe in them, and in the infallibility (of at least the Quran). Nobody is asking YOU to develop faith in any of this. You HAVE to begin with the bottom line that Muslims do have that full faith.

Expecting Muslims to NOT have that full faith in all these things will lead to trouble...."


I am not doubting that moslems have faith in that 6th century arab beduine. But, in context of India, there is no such stupidity like prophet, sudden revealitions, some cock and bull stories and crime committed based on that.
History of India is something different. The sages used to argue with different opinions and used to come to conclusion based on, who can provide better evidence and explanation. There were various sages like Vasisshta, Janaka, Viswamitra etc. who do had contradictory views and multiple of these existed. The Vedas and Upanishads were not composed by single person. It has grown with time. S many contributors. The way Greek philosophers used to do that. So, Indian philosophy can be compared with ancient Greek one, rather than that of cock and bull stories of 6th century arab beduine.

The mediaval darkness, which started with introduction of Abrhamic faith (Genesis etc...), later propagated through Christianity (mid-east version of some part of geeta+buddhism+abrahamic faith), and finaly become fatal at the hand of the arab raider. Isn't it strange that arabic moon god revealed the same cock and bull story of Abraham etc... to that arab beduine?
If you see the political angle, it is not. To gain popularity, you need to start with something existing; some belief, which is widely popular. Sushma Swaraj learened Kannada to contest from Bellary.

So, Muhammed used the existing abrahamic stuff and put the lethal puch of violence and sex etc.........


Europe had golden period in Greece and Macedonia in ancient age. When that collapsed, all these stupidity from mid-east started flooding europe. Finaly they got rid of it under secularism from 16th/17th century onwards and started making progress in all sphere of life. So, Roman Catholics are now, busy finding new converts in poor and vulnerable in Africa and Asia. Please read The Da Vinci Code. Nice book.


#DM
"Hindus do not fight like moslems or sikhs..."

This so called "Hindus" need to have something called "faith" that they will fight for. They need to have some single point of contact of God ( "prophet"/Holy Son) to defend and they need to have something called "holy book" to fight for. Neither of these 3 exists in India. So, what "Hindus" will fight for?

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Ekal...
"...In our philosophical language, think of Islam as the 'purusha' that acts on the human prakriti differently; but it is all one thing, and never itself questioned. So it can manifest in infinite ways. Only a few people are needed who (try to) understand the totality. In fact, even they are not 'needed.'..."

Ekal, either you are too innocent or ill-informed.
What is this stupid revealition business? Isn't it just simple mechanism of cheating people?

These arab beduines were simple people of trading and raiding. Neither Muhammed had formal education, nor he had ever tried to learn or showed any interest in knowledge. So, just to compare Islam, with Indian concepts is something very stupid (or naive).

I will not blame Muhammed for all this. He had exploited the stupidity started long before that. What was harmless stupidity in Christianity, resulted in the hand of arab looter, the deadly weapon of civilisation destroyer. If Islam is something different, why it is engaged in so many wars and resulted in destriction of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and Egypt and Gangetic belt of India. These places have quite impressive history of contribution to civilisation....And now see these places....

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 81
Ekal...
"nkg, all that you write (including about the Australian cleric) is part of Islam, but it is not all of Islam...."

It is THE core of Islam, that was preached and practised by 6th century arab beduine and his followers for centuries and still practised in moslem majority countries. The abberation you see in other areas is something forced ( like democracy for moslems in India) upon moslems to live like civilised one and some effect of local civilisations. Where the mediaval arabisation is complete, the effect is something different.

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 64
Pinku...
"Al-Biru...."
Oh, I have read the Bengali translation of that towel-head. That fellow had not understood much of Indian culture and it was piece of pure sh**. If that is the level of a scholar, then my understanding of beduine-land is not very wrong...
In Geeta, there is a saying. Knowledge is like any substance. You need suitable "container" ( in Sanskrit- Adhar) to hold it. I am sure, that towel-head neither had the "adhar" nor the jeal to learn Sanskrit. So, end result was something utter stupid...
Ramkrishna used to offer some of the profound lessons to Vivekananda alone. It was not meant for everybody....

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Ekalavya...

FYI...
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Aus-jury-finds-Mu slim-cleric-five-others-guilty-of-terrorism/361543

He is not ordinary moslem. He is cleric.....

Delhi Under Fright, Innocent Targeted Re: # 49
Ekal...
The 6th/7th century beduine practised the same islam ( which he had created), that the current terrorists are practising. These people get through course of islamic literature (qourun,hadish etc...), and carry out these pure islamic acts. Some demo version of islam is available outside arab slave countries, to look it decent. It has no connection with islam. The islam practised in Pakistan (with Huddoood law, Blashphemy Law, Shariat, forcing of veil and practises like stoning unarmed women etc...) is actual islam....there is no point blaming something else...

#56...
How you know arabic moon god revealed something to that 6th century trader-turned-raider? When he needed sex with somebody he used to get reveleation. He used this business of reveleation to commit any sort of crime.If you are so fascinated with revealitions etc, I will tell you, yesterday the same arabic moon god had revealed to me that Muhammed was ......


... and Indians should accpet the barbaric arab beduinism!!! and make India like Pakistan and Afghanistan!!!
Islam has created enough problem in once prosperous areas like Bihar and UP (Mithila, Patliputra, Nalanda and Kashi was learning centre of Asia and people from accross the world used to come to learn mathematics, astronomy, philisophy and medical science). Today these areas are most laggard states of India. You want this mediaval darkness to spread in entire India!!!! Why such negative thinking man ( hope you are Indian)?
The name you are using (Ekalavya) was a great person; known for his positive attitude and devotion. If your thinking level is such, then better leave this name.


DM..
Sikhism and all these rebel thoughts (Jainism and Budhdhism) look good and may exploit majority of people on emotional ground. Apart from transforming it (Sikhs) into martial race to counter islamic barbarism, I don't see any benefit of Sikhism so far....If you have anything, please let me know...

Muslim Psyche After September 11, 2001 Re: # 70
Dinaric...

Bosnia, Chechenya, Palestine...
Why should there be killing? There are political problems in many places. Why the killing is involved with wherever moslems (I won't say alone) are there?

There were considerable amount of non moslems in moslem majority states like Egypt, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Why that population is dwindling and they are migrating to different countries? Presence of Islam in these countries are more than couple of centuries. So, what event makes these population reduction?

Dinaric, the problem is not with moslems. Ranjit Singh, after conquering Pakistan and part of western India, should have used something like jajya to make it a Khalsa empire. So, should have Sivaji and marathas. And even during British period, the Congress fools should not have jumped for Quit India so early or Indian troops have taken some hard steps in Kashmir. But then again, that is the way Indians behave......

Muslim Psyche After September 11, 2001 Re: # 76
Dinaric...
I am not talking about country fighting with country...
These are political events. That have not effected common people's reaction.