17 August 1988 zia did not have the remotest connection with 25 cavalry .

he was told to take over 22 Cavalry .

Remembering the Jallianwala Bagh, Gandhi, Churchill and Jinnah i think it was at that time that Iqbal became the butt of Chaudhry Zafar Ali Khan of Gujrat Zamindar fame ridiculing Iqbal for accepting Knighthood .

Remembering the Jallianwala Bagh, Gandhi, Churchill and Jinnah also see the conduct of Dr Allam Iqbal National Poet in Pakistan who accepted knighthood . Compare with Tagore the Bengali who renounced knighthood because Punjabis were killed.Gujranwala was bombed also by aircrafts.

Remembering the Jallianwala Bagh, Gandhi, Churchill and Jinnah good article but some factual mistakes,there were no baluchis as at that time the class composition of baloch regiment had changed .

My Dear President Musharraf The Pakistani military mindset

A.H Amin

2nd August 2003



While third world military figures , in power or retired make impressive speeches at various forums and think tanks , very few outside their countries understand their mindset and motivation , which by and large is driven by highly personalized and ulterior motives !



Keeping this premise in view it is important to understand the mindset and the personalities of the third world military juntas , most important in this case being the Pakistani military junta !



The British Indian Army which gave birth to Pakistan and Indian armies in 1947 was essentially a colonial army designed for internal security and limited defence of India against external threats .The British ensured that all Indians who came to this organization were from the politically most docile and loyal classes ! In order to keep the Indian officer corps slavish they kept a 50 % quota for Indian Army rankers in Indian Military Academy Dera Dun right from its foundation in 1930-32 .



Layman readers may note that the “ lower middle class” as well as the “ middle class” by and large are the politically most conservative classes ! Social climbers by orientation , intensely careeristic in outlook and extremely conscious of personal benefits , having none or little of the pride or spirit de corps that made the Prussian junker officer defy Hitler ! In the Russian Civil War many major reactionary White Army leaders including Denikin,Kornilov etc were from humble background ! Similarly all of Pakistan’s military rulers less Yahya Khan were from humble background and all brought with them the intense greed and ambitiousness of a man from humble origins with none of the ideological idealism that distinguishes a man of ideology from a social climber !



Now the mindset of the military junta :--



1- Personal motives having priority over all other motives :-- You would find no Manstein or Guderian in them but highly ambitious men who practiced sycophancy with their seniors , hole punchers in US terms , yes men ,masters of personal manouvre in order to get the right report from the right boss at the right time ! They pleased their seniors and they know how to handle balls of any benefactor may it be Bush or Reagan where aid is concerned ! They have no ideology less personal interest !

2- View Wars and International Geopolitics as a means of personal benefit:-- The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was a divine and phenomenal lottery for Pakistan’s military rulers ! Zia the son of a humble tailor , and many of his generals Akhtar etc siphoned millions of US dollars in private accounts , from the US aid meant for Afghanistan ! knowing the Americans well , they must have also earmarked good retainers for Zia and his ISI chief in any case ! Serious observers like Selig Harrison and Cordovez have concluded that the Pakistani military junta never wanted that the Soviets should withdraw from Afghanistan since that would have meant stoppage of US aid ! Similarly 9/11 is a heaven sent opportunity for General Musharraf since it enabled him to get US aid and the much needed US boost to stay in power !

3- Can be coerced and bought if the Bigger players know how to drive them:-- These leaders have price tags and can be manipulated to a significant extent without risking wars like the Iraq war ! This is so because their vision is personal , has none of Khomeini or Osama’s ideological agenda ! Thus if the USA sensibly deals with them with carrot and stick they can be made to conform to US policies !

4- Ulterior motives in prolonging conflicts to get aid :-- These leaders have an ulterior motive that their benefactor super power i.e USA is kept occupied in its war against terror , not because they have any love for Islam , but simply because this would bring them more aid , an important part of which is siphoned into private fortunes ! Thus at a certain covert level these leaders are interested in the terrorist’s cause also ! Thus the third world intelligence agencies have many irons in the fire whether it is initiating a terrorist outrage or encouraging one !

5- Increasing reliance on coercive power of state :-- Since these leaders have little or no contact with national aspirations of their masses , they increasingly rely on the coercive power of the state which leads either to a Shah of Iran like situation or strengthening of a Saddam like totalitarian regime ! In both cases it was the fault and mishandling of US policy makers !

6- Role of the Intelligence agencies :-- To buy judges , to blackmail politicians , to start wars of low intensity to get aid , to manipulate low intensity war players for specific ends to please or disturb their super power benefactors !



Conclusion

The USA is dealing with sharp social climber third world leaders who know how to please and how to practice sophisticated ball lifting ! These men have no ideology and can withstand tremendous amount of kicking as they did while pleasing seniors in their military careers ! It is simpler to deal with these tinpot dictators than Osama or Mullah Omar ! If policy makers in the USA understand this fact their task would be simpler !

17 August 1988 u see once an officer becomes a major general he has atif his disposal a black fund which cannot be audited of many crores from non military projects of a formation like petrol pumps,ice factories,bakeries,shops rented.ambition creeps in his head.when coas asif nawaz visited okara where mush was also one of the divisional commanders an expensive gift bought from black fund was presented to mrs asif nawaz by the ladies club.these are small examples.as a corps commander it was known that musharraf was rubbing shoulders with politicians and trying to do social climbing.he was known in person to nawaz sharif and shahbaz sharif directly and through intermediaries.after all all army generals practice some type of sycophancy to go up.musharraf was no exception.i think in his selection nawaz sharif alone and possibly reports by the ISI controlled by nawaz sharifs kashmiri garain must have played a part.nawaz sharif did not understand the army however and his advisors were not good.all who knew musharraf and we knew him from the squash court in okara knew that he was extremely ambitious , ambitious abnormally , a social climber.i am surprised at the pathetic sty;es of workings of the civilians.we knew right from the point that he was promoted that he will not rest.an ambitious man he was.however he had no war record and a bursting ego.

17 August 1988 HP , thanks for the valuable inputs and insights, all this is a very crucial part of our history and needs study and reflection,we have leaders who do a_______e l________ing of americans and they are good leaders who bring money ....whats the lesson , anyone who came to the top in pakistan all four accepted ethnicities and now this chhotti yeh in last nine years became corrupted in power ......time will prove that all were crooks , hats off to iftikhar chaudhry , he drank the water of balochistan and had more ghairat , that he threw a spanner in the machinations to sell the dirt cheap by mush and that shaukat aziz referred to as idiot banker in US senate report on money laundering while shaukat was laundering noreiga of panamas money

My Dear President Musharraf the genocide that this man inflicted on balochistan no one who has not been there can imagine....more than 500 baloch were picked by int agencies and killed and bodies buried ......why talk about kashmir then ......and so called columnists find it honourable...pakistan was not created for honour, it was created to create an unfair advantage for muslims in jobs,business,in every field

My Dear President Musharraf a fifth columnist article , what is honourable about an officer who spent his life in sycophancy , pleased 20 differemt bosses to get good annual reports,like all army generals do to get to this rank .

all military dictators were american hirelings ,ayub got aid because of that , clown zia got aid because of that and now this mush , all progress due to us dollars after 9/11 , whats honourable about it anyway

17 August 1988 WHEN FLOODS CAME IN OCTOBER 1988 I VISITED THIS SITE SPECIALLY.THE SUTLEJ HAD CLEANED THE SITE.IT WAS THEN THAT WE DISCOVERED THAT IT WAS A SHAMSHAN GHAT BEFORE 1947.

17 August 1988 the God of these clowns is USA,that includes pakistan,saudi,uae,egypt,jordan etc

17 August 1988 u need to study history properly ,10 army chiefs were selected by civilians,ayub was selected by civilian,tikka and zia were selected by civilian,beg,asif nawaz,kakar,musharraf,karamat were selected by civiians,only three army chiefs musa yahya and kayani were selected by non civilians

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations a word of clarification , Amniat means security , like shah's SAVAK was also referred to as Amniat in Iran,Riasat means department , but Afghan ubtelligence has been upgradred to a ministry now and its chief amrullah saleh is a cabinet minister status.its still called amniat although it has same khad organisation having various riasats.

operatives are 90 % the same although some diehard khalqis and parchamis were removed by this present regime.some of these are my good friends.some old leading khalqis are in number two positions also like general hakeem nurzai.

in summing up afghan amniat is now under heavy US and NATO domination and short of funds while the old amniat headed by brilliant and great Najib Jan and General Farooq Yaqubi was far more effective.

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations Taliban murder seven civilian 'spies'

PRESS REPORT



Tuesday, 15 July 2008


Men dragged from their cars on a main highway and shot, police say

The Taliban have shot dead seven Afghan civilians for working with the government and other organisations, police said.

The men and women were dragged from cars, buses and taxis on the main road between Kabul and Kandahar in the southern province of Ghazni, said police.

The province is three hours drive from Kabul. The seven men were shot in the neighbouring province of Zabul.

A spokesman for the Taliban said militants had killed 15 "spies of the government" captured on the road in the alst three days.

The militants also shot dead two women on Sunday for running a prostitution racket for American troops in the area.

NATO strongly denied that its troops were paying for prostitutes in Ghazni.

President Hamid Karzai condemned the executions.

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations US abandons Afghan outpost where 9 troops died

PRESS REPORT

KABUL, Afghanistan - U.S. troops abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine of their comrades this week, officials said Wednesday, in another sign of the struggle facing foreign and Afghan security forces strung out along the mountainous border.

Elsewhere in the frontier region, NATO launched artillery and helicopter strikes in Pakistan after coming under insurgent rocket fire, officials said.

The violence is another indication of the growing strength of the Taliban-led insurgency, especially in Afghanistan's east, where the outpost near the village of Wanat was breached by militants on Sunday. Nine Americans were killed in the deadliest incident for U.S. forces in three years.

On Tuesday, the insurgents drove out the handful of police left behind to defend government offices in the village, but 50 more officers were deployed Wednesday and soon regained control, senior provincial police official Ghoolam Farouq said.

The militants retreated into the mountains, and village elders negotiated a truce between the two sides, Farouq said.

Omar Sami, spokesman for the Nuristan provincial governor, said American and Afghan soldiers left the base Tuesday.

NATO confirmed that the post, which lies amid precipitous mountains close to the Pakistan border, had been vacated while insisting that international and Afghan troops will "retain a strong presence in that area with patrolling and other means."

In Washington, Pentagon leaders said Wednesday they are looking for ways to send additional troops to Afghanistan this year, signaling an acceleration in what had been plans to shift forces there no earlier than next year.

"I think that we are clearly working very hard to see if there are opportunities to send additional forces sooner rather than later," Defense Secretary Robert Gates told Pentagon reporters. But, he added that no final decisions or recommendations have been made.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who recently returned from meetings with commanders in Afghanistan, said they clearly want more troops.

"It's a tougher fight, it's a more complex fight, and they need more troops to have the long-term impact that we all want to have there," said Mullen, who also met last week with Pakistani leaders.

The Pentagon has been wrestling with how to provide what they say is a much needed military buildup in Afghanistan, while they still have 150,000 troops in Iraq.

The retreat from the eastern outpost will be considered a victory by the insurgents, and comes after a spate of security setbacks for President Hamid Karzai's government, including a spectacular Taliban jail break in the southern Kandahar province in June that freed about 900 inmates, and a spike in attacks alongside the border with Pakistan.

In response, Karzai has stepped up his rhetoric against neighboring Pakistan, whose lawless tribal areas adjacent to Afghanistan serve as sanctuaries for al-Qaida and other militants.

Karzai blames the attacks ? including suicide bombings and cross-border raids ? on Pakistan's intelligence service, alleging they are behind the insurgency in Afghanistan. Pakistan denies the charge saying Karzai is trying to create "an artificial crisis" to deflect attention from his own failings.

The accusations have pitched relations between these key U.S. allies to their lowest point since U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in 2001.

In other violence reported Wednesday, the U.S.-led coalition said eight civilians were killed when it called in airstrikes after one of its patrols came under attack in the country's west. The issue of civilian casualties has caused friction between the Afghan government and U.S. and NATO troops, and has weakened the popularity of the Western-backed Karzai.

In a separate statement, the coalition said another airstrike killed several militants after they attacked a joint U.S. and Afghan patrol in Kandahar province's Shah Wali district on Tuesday.

The governor of Kandahar said eight militants were killed during an operation in the southern province's Khakrez district in the past two days. A regional Taliban commander, Mullah Mahmoud, who controlled about 250 fighters, was among those killed, a NATO statement said.

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations Re: # 60 correction not something unfair or unlawful as in strategy and war there is no morality . the pakistani establishments role in afghanistan is as vile or perhaps more vile and notorious than the soviets.just because a bastard child military regime led by a mean looking dubious general was in a crisis of legitimacy in 1977-88.and then the final beautiful end of that clown on the hindu shamshan ghat on bast lal kamal , well roasted in many hundred tons of aviation petrol.