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This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Jan 1, 2008 10:37 am
Pakis..relax...Zardari thinks things are looking up for pureland...he thinks pureland might become another somalia...which, the way things are going, is a few steps up.

Pakistan 'could be another Somalia'
By Saeed Shah in Naudero
Published: 01 January 2008

Asif Zardari, husband of murdered Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto, has called for President Pervez Musharraf to resign and warned that the country could turn into another Somalia.

He also poured scorn on the government's claim that al-Qa'ida was behind the attack on Ms Bhutto. Instead he blamed "the establishment, which is bigger than Musharraf himself".

"I don't think we're as yet a threat to Al-Qa'ida. We weren't in government. Why aren't they killing off the existing structure of the government? Why would they come after us?" he said. "There are definitely some in-house games going on, which either nobody is aware of or are scared to unearth," he said, speaking from his wife's home in her ancestral village of Naudero, where he and the children continued to mourn her loss yesterday.

He said that the government's claims of al-Qa'ida involvement was simply "muddying the waters". He described Pakistan's role in the so-called war on terror, which he described as "shadow boxing". "That shadow-boxing is going to turn into a giant and take over the country one day," he said.

This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Jan 1, 2008 07:10 am
HAHAHA...even the jihadi dude is calling for an independent investigation..


Pro-Taliban militants want Bhutto killing probed

By IANS
Monday December 31, 07:49 PM

Islamabad, Dec 31 (DPA) Pro-Taliban militants Monday demanded an independent inquiry into the assassination of Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto, according to a local media report.

The pro-democracy icon, 54, was killed last Thursday in a gun-and-suicide bomb attack that government officials claim was carried out by the followers of Baitullah Mehsud, leader of the newly formed Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) (Taliban Movement Pakistan).

'The government is carrying out a propaganda campaign against Baitullah Mehsud and the Taliban is unfairly being alleged for the attack,' the militant group's spokesman Maulvi Omar told the BBC's Urdu service by telephone from undisclosed location.

He said any independent inquiry that was free from US and British influence would be acceptable for them.

Bhutto's murder was a great national tragedy and therefore an independent inquiry should be held, he added.
Making a Mockery of Democracy
Posted by arjun_1 Jan 1, 2008 05:36 am
#66 Posted by majumdar on January 1, 2008 3:34:58 am


How many people were murdered in B'desh at ZAB's behest


Why are you bringing up the killing of a few hundred thousand people? Are you a muslim hating, pakistan hating indian hater or something?
This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Jan 1, 2008 05:19 am
smart move pal...even pakis are not that stupid..

Caretaker govt apologises for Interior Ministry’s blunder

By Shaheen Sehbai

ISLAMABAD: The caretaker government of Prime Minister Mohammedmian Soomro on Monday apologised for the highly provocative comment made by the Interior Ministry spokesman that late PPP leader Benazir Bhutto had died because she hit the lever of her bullet-proof Land Cruiser on the fateful evening.

At a high-powered briefing to newspaper editors invited from all over the country, Interior Minister Lt General (retd) Hamid Nawaz asked the media and the people to forgive and ignore the comment made by spokesman Brig (retd) Cheema, which caused a huge uproar, as private TV channels obtained footage, showing the assassin pointing the gun at the PPP leader and shooting it.

The briefing by caretaker Prime Minister Mohammed Mian Soomro, was attended by his foreign minister, his interior minister and the information minister besides senior officials.

Editor after editor lambasted the government for its non-serious attitude towards the tragedy, specially the statement that Benazir Bhutto had died by hitting the lever and not by a bullet or a sharpnel.

Soomro first tried to defend the Interior Ministry spokesman, saying he was just relating the facts which had been told to him, specially about the cause of death. “We are conducting an investigation and all TV footage, all evidence, that would be available will help in reaching a definite conclusion,” Soomro said.
This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Jan 1, 2008 05:03 am
the paki rupee is at 61.95 against the greenback..it would be lower if the paki government hadn't intervened.

the indian rupee is 39.41 and would be stronger if the government hadn't intervened.


pureland is not even playing the same game as india, forget about being in the same league..
This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Jan 1, 2008 05:01 am
whoa...I totally didn't expect this from the paki government..why would they do something like this? it just gives people who hate the land of the pure and hate islam question their motives.

Doctors Cite Pressure to Keep Silent On Bhutto

By Emily Wax and Griff Witte
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, January 1, 2008; Page A01

RAWALPINDI, Pakistan, Dec. 31 -- Pakistani authorities have pressured the medical personnel who tried to save Benazir Bhutto's life to remain silent about what happened in her final hour and have removed records of her treatment from the facility, according to doctors.

In interviews, doctors who were at Bhutto's side at Rawalpindi General Hospital said they were under extreme pressure not to share details about the nature of the injuries that the opposition leader suffered in an attack here Dec. 27.

"The government took all the medical records right after Ms. Bhutto's time of death was read out," said a visibly shaken doctor who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. Sweating and putting his head in his hands, he said: "Look, we have been told by the government to stop talking. And a lot of us feel this is a disgrace."

The doctors now find themselves at the center of a political firestorm over the circumstances of Bhutto's death. The government has said Bhutto, 54, was killed after the force of a suicide bombing caused her head to slam against the lever of her vehicle's sunroof. Bhutto's supporters have pointed to video footage, including a new amateur video released Monday, as proof that she was killed by gunfire.

The truth about what happened has serious implications in Pakistan. The ability of a gunman to fire at Bhutto from close range, as alleged by her supporters, would suggest that an assassin was able to breach government security in a city that serves as headquarters of the Pakistani military, bolstering her supporters' claims that the government failed to provide her with adequate protection.

If a gunman were to blame, it would also raise questions as to why the government has for days insisted otherwise. Bhutto's supporters have called for an international investigation.
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The government has repeatedly dismissed allegations of a coverup, and some U.S. medical experts, when asked Monday to review an official hospital description of her wounds, speculated that a skull fracture and not a bullet wound killed Bhutto.

The medical personnel in Rawalpindi, meanwhile, have mostly remained quiet.

"Our doctors have become caught up in this very emotional and political issue," said Fayyaz Ahmed Khan, the doctors' supervisor at Rawalpindi General. "It's a terrible position for our medical professions to be in."

A newly released video that was obtained by Britain's Channel 4 and broadcast Monday cast doubt on the government's claims and appeared to corroborate witnesses' stories. The footage appeared to show a gunman and a suspected suicide bomber approaching Bhutto's sport-utility vehicle. Seconds later, the video showed gunfire and Bhutto's hair and scarf being blown back just as a bomb explodes.

Government officials identified Baitullah Mehsud, a pro-Taliban commander in the restive South Waziristan region, as the organizer of Bhutto's killing. But some observers said the government has been too quick to blame the attack on the Taliban.

Jameel Yusuf, a lead investigator in the 2002 disappearance of American journalist Daniel Pearl in Karachi, said the Pakistani government had blundered badly by not sealing off the crime scene. Moments after Bhutto was killed, workers hosed down the blood at the blast site before any evidence could be collected.

"When you're dealing with a murder of this nature, you need to have forensics," Yusuf said.

Several witnesses say they had yet to be interviewed by police.

Kamran Nazir, 19, was badly injured by shrapnel at the rally where Bhutto was killed. On Monday, he was at Rawalpindi General, with his father at his bedside. His breathing was labored, and the top layer of skin on his face was singed off. He said he was shocked that police had not questioned him.

"Why is no one asking me what happened? It's important to know the truth," he said as his father's eyes went wet.

"The truth is, there really is no investigation at all," said Babar Awan, a top official in Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party who said he saw Bhutto's body after the attack and identified two clearly defined bullet wounds -- entry and exit points.

He said that the principal professor of surgery at the hospital, Muhammad Mussadiq Khan, was "extremely nervous, but eventually told me that Bhutto had died of a bullet wound."

"Why was this man so nervous?" Awan said. "He told me firsthand he was under pressure not to talk about how she died."

Reached at his home in Islamabad, Khan declined to comment, saying he worked for a government hospital and was trying to "do my duty and remain a doctor." In published reports in the English-language newspaper Dawn, Khan has changed his story on multiple occasions, first speaking about bullet wounds and later backing away from those comments.

Over the weekend, Athar Minallah, a board member at Rawalpindi General, e-mailed journalists Bhutto's medical report. The report, which was separate from documents that doctors say have been confiscated, describes a deep wound in Bhutto's head that was leaking brain matter.
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No "foreign body" was found in the wound, the report says, and no exit wound was recorded. But in an X-ray of Bhutto's skull, the doctors identified "two to three tiny radio-densities." Minallah said in an interview that the report suggested those were bullet fragments.

U.S. medical experts said the "radio-densities" were probably not bullets.

Thomas M. Scalea, physician in chief of the shock trauma center at the University of Maryland Medical Center, said that while there was no evidence of a bullet wound, he was also perplexed by how the blunt force of Bhutto's head against an object could have caused brain damage severe enough to kill her so quickly.

"The whole thing strikes me as very unusual," said Scalea.


Bhutto's widower and the interim leader of her party, Asif Ali Zardari, has requested an investigation into her death by the United Nations.

President Pervez Musharraf's spokesman, retired Gen. Rashid Qureshi, said Musharraf is "considering" an offer from the British government to assist in an investigation. Qureshi said Bhutto's husband bore responsibility for the controversy, because he had denied the government permission to conduct an autopsy immediately after Bhutto's death, on the grounds that it could not be trusted.

"The body can be exhumed now if the family allows," Qureshi said. "There's no problem with that."

Witte reported from Karachi. Special correspondent Imtiaz Ali in Peshawar and staff writer Jason Ukman and staff researcher Robert E. Thomason in Washington contributed to this report.
This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Jan 1, 2008 04:56 am
Benazir or musharraf...just a different leash for the same raggedy old dog...


‘Benazir distanced herself from deal’


By Our Correspondent


WASHINGTON, Dec 31: Before her death, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto had distanced herself from a US-brokered power-sharing deal between her and President Pervez Musharraf, The Washington Post reported on Monday.

According to veteran Post journalist Robert D. Novak, Ms Bhutto had sent a written complaint to a senior State Department official saying that her camp no longer viewed the backstage US move as a good-faith effort towards democracy.

Instead, it was seen as an attempt to preserve the politically endangered Mr Musharraf as US President George W. Bush’s man in Islamabad, she wrote.

Since her return to Pakistan on Oct 18, Ms Bhutto sent several urgent pleas to the State Department, seeking US assistance for better protection.

The US reaction was that she was worried over nothing, expressing assurance that President Musharraf would not let anything happen to her.

Distraught by the lack of US interests in her protection, Ms Bhutto began to distance herself from the US-backed power-sharing arrangement, the Post said.

The US decision to arrange a Bhutto-Musharraf alliance was based on Pakistan’s strategic importance as a sanctuary for Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters.

“Bush was in a quandary. Bhutto was much tougher than Musharraf on Islamist extremists, but Bush had invested heavily in the general,” the Post observed.

Ms Bhutto was further disillusioned when President Musharraf imposed a state of emergency on Nov 3, but US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice telephoned and urged her to go along with that process in return for concessions from Mr Musharraf.

“Bhutto agreed, but she got nothing in return,” the Post noted.

The report said that the unsuccessful Oct. 18 attempt on Ms Bhutto’s life followed Islamabad’s rejection of her requested security protection when she returned from eight years in exile. The Pakistani government vetoed FBI assistance in investigating the attack.

On Oct 26, Ms Bhutto sent an email to Mark Siegel, her friend and Washington spokesman, to be made public only in the event of her death.

“I would hold Musharraf responsible,” Ms Bhutto said in the message. “I have been made to feel insecure by his minions.”

In early December, a former Pakistani government official supporting Ms Bhutto visited a senior US government official to renew her security requests.

“He got a brush off, a mindset reflected Dec 6 at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing,” the report said.Richard Boucher, assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asian affairs, was asked to respond to fears by non-partisan American observers of a rigged election.

His reply: “I do think they can have a good election. They can have a credible election. They can have a transparent and a fair election. It’s not going to be a perfect election.”

“Boucher’s words echoed through corridors of power in Islamabad,” the Post noted.

“Neither her shooting on Thursday nor the attempt on her life Oct 18 bore the trademarks of Al Qaeda,” the report said, urging the US administration to send an FBI to probe the murder.
This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Dec 31, 2007 04:28 pm
isn't 300billion paki rs about 5billion $ even though the paki rupee is the only currency doing worse than the $$?

That's almost half of the 10 billion $ from Uncle Sam for bombing pakis...

Pak suffers loss of Rs 300bn after Benazir’s killing

ISLAMABAD: A cabinet meeting was told on Monday that the country had suffered a total loss of Rs 300 billion of which banks suffered an estimated loss of Rs 100 billion, Online reported.
This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Dec 31, 2007 01:47 pm
Will burn? It's already burning

here's the BBC video...there's a whole highway with burnt trucks.

http://tinyurl.com/2evd2v

This Pyre Will Burn…!
Posted by arjun_1 Dec 31, 2007 12:34 pm
balochistan: check
NWFP: check
Sindh: check

Pakistan banega Afghanistan..and that would be a step up.
Making a Mockery of Democracy
Posted by arjun_1 Dec 31, 2007 12:15 pm
#45 Posted by GT on December 31, 2007 11:42:52 am

Are bhai...your problem is unrealistic expectations brought about by self-delusion..

even after 9/11, pakis deluded themselves into thinking that they had signed on to the WoT of their own volition. Starting at this point, some people even told us that pureland would now have Uncle Sam's wind in her sails and would soon be sailing to "kashmir banega pakiland" island..they told us that pakiland was now the talk of the town and when bush visited pakiland, he'd be so beholden to pakis that he'd stop for every tongawalla. yup..and we were told wearing a t-shirt with a paki flag would keep us safe in the US.

Now when reality strikes, as it always does, you claim to be shocked at US behavior...
Making a Mockery of Democracy
Posted by arjun_1 Dec 31, 2007 11:30 am
#35 Posted by masadi on December 31, 2007 10:23:33 am


Mujib had no representation in the West


But if a west paki leader had no representation in the East, you'd be ok with him being the ruler of the whole of pureland...right?
Making a Mockery of Democracy
Posted by arjun_1 Dec 31, 2007 11:20 am
#36 Posted by GT on December 31, 2007 10:54:42 am


huge proportion of the Pakistani middle class have come to know that the Pakistani army works more for US interests than for Pakistan.


They knew it before...It's not like they woke up one day and took a smart pill..they knew it but they were ok with it as long as being in the US camp meant getting $$ and F-16s to fight the hindooos and take indian kashmir..

Making a Mockery of Democracy
Posted by arjun_1 Dec 31, 2007 11:16 am
democracy is the best revenge
revenge is a dish best served cold

which is why pureland has no democracy...

they pulled the dish out of the freezer in 1947 and they're waiting for the it to thaw out.

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