We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Re: # 301; majumdar

I was actually referring to him (subject to a consensus about the Ismailis) and his fellow Gujarati

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Re: # 296; majumdar

all in all "Gujarat" has a lot to answer for when it comes to the political problems within the sub-continent

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Re: # 278; hamidm sahib

I'd second that sir ... it is amazing that every article about Pakistan attracts so much Indian interest! .... lately there were some articles about India and you'd hardly notice any Pakistani presence there

Behind That Voice! Re: # 6; madani sahib

thanks. do you recommend any links I could try out sir?

Behind That Voice! Jagjit is just great! ... I watched Mirza Ghalib recently and I felt finally someone did justice to Ghalib's poetry .... especially "hazaaron khwahishein aisee ..."

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion Re: # 213; tahmed sahib

if you are referring to your support for the american invasion of Iraq .... I wasn't totally against it myself ... but for different and perhaps more idealistic reasons than Georgy W ... for now I'll have to say Good night to you and leave you in the company of futile and monotonous counterarguments of some of your old friends (with the notable exception of hamidm sahib, of course)

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion Re: # 210; tahmed sahib
[[if you consider Saddam a "Great Hero", why did you move to Australia (where they dont believe in "Great Leaders") rather than to Iraq under Saddam? This hypocrisy does not suit you either.]]

I am no hypocrite sir and believe strongly in all the things you seem to hold so dear to yourself .... unfortunately your muslim brethren are intent on proving THEIR point .... when MY COUNTRY (Great Britain) grants assylum to a Somali kid, without knowing that in years to come the same Soamli would try to blow up his 'own' countrymen and property in the name of some god or another! ... of course in the TRUE spirit of his faith

other obvious examples of the Saddams of their times can easily be found in the lives of AbuBakr, Umer .... not to mention Hajjaj bin Yousuf and Maimoon-ur-Rashid!

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion Re: # 208; tahmed sahib

in THAT part of the world, THAT is the only language people would understand ... I personally reckon Saddam was a great leader who kept his country UNITED at all cost ... pretty much what the US is struggling to do now at great cost to its self-esteem!

a true "ameer-ul-momineen" if you will!! and I am afraid in this regard 'history' would vindicate my argument against yours any day!

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion Re: # 148; ijaz sahib
[[Nothing that I have alluded to since I joined chowk ever proved a conspiracy theory.]]

I am sure what hamidm sahib stated 'proved' the above too! ... you have never 'proven' anything but certainly have 'alluded to/implied' the conspiracy theory on many occasions.

I am at a loss in trying to understand exactly what your point of view is Ijaz sahib .... you seem to have this desire to come across as "more Pakistani than the avarage Pakistani" for some reason. I have never seen to condemn any of these atrocities ever but always put forward justifications for them which I find incomprehensible ... at best you take a very dispassionate (rather pragmatic) approach .... commendable at times but then someone should have the audacity to call a spade a spade ... right?

all this (from time to time) coming from a seemingly well-informed person such as your good self, I thought I'd point it out, though I am sure only you know the truth!

Is there something about you we don't know?

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion What makes me sick is the excuses we tend to see on forums such as this; worse, comparisons with 'christian' fundamentalists and the usual rants about 'proxy' american involvements ..... it is denial at its worst

I only wish these morons have the moral courage to acknowledge the fact that there ARE these elements in our midst, more than capable of carrying out such atrocities, and take responsibility for their existence .... and also have the guts to take the necessary actions (or advocate such action) against such elements ..... My question to all Pakistanis is what are you going to do about it? ....

.... unfortunately with denial one is prone to absolve oneself of the 'responsibility' .... hmm... responsibility; a concept that appears to be alien to our culture in the first place (perhaps ... though I remain optimistic .. cautiously!)

Khuda Hafiz

The God Delusion Re: # 160; masadi sahib

whatever happened to the TNI sir? no need anymore?

one quick question ..... does acknowledgement and ownership of the TNI title imply that there WAS a need/room for "newness" and "improvement"?

Regards.

will check your response later

The God Delusion Re: # 154; hamidm sahib
[[just tell me what alif, lam, meem means]]

Sir I can't help you on that personally but quin sahib here tells me one can forget about the "lam and meem" quite safely .........

......... according to him "ikko 'alif' tere darkaar"! ..... now it would be his turn to tell us all what that "alif" is??

thanks for the latest in the al-lah/gabby saga sir!

Khuda Hafiz for now

The God Delusion Re: # 47; pinku

I think he did try .... he said "hu" ... the "ultimate" sound .... on par with "om"!!

(as used by Sultan Bahu in his poetry)

OR ... he may NOT have meant that!

Khuda Hafiz all

The God Delusion quin sahib, [[All you need is one Alpha – let go of all this scholarshipping” ]]

may be you have come to the wrong place looking for that "Alpha" sir ..... we only have a "CreateAlpha" here .... would that do?

The God Delusion Re: # 41; quin
[[No one has said about Alam-Online who is inciting people to kill Ahmedis.]]

you had to go ON-LINE for that??!!

The Cry of Karachi Fatima .... you CAN write poetry (whether someone can understand what you write is a totally different matter! ... another topic for another time)...

..... we can either sweep it under the carpet and coccoon ourselves in our own little worlds (new OR old) or we can actually think and attempt to provide realistic solutions to the problems ..... and that only comes with acknowledging the "problems" and facing/fighting them with courage .... including the appropriate use of liguistics such as poets/writers etc have done through the ages ... especially in our part of the world (perhaps because they had so much to talk about! ... another digression, sorry)

on the other hand, if the purpose of poetry is merely a collection of nice (and polysyllabic) words that rhyme well together .... than that's probably OK too ... only let's not use it for any "purpose" but for the linguistic beauty herein

will talk soon ..... Khuda Hafiz for now