MQM - History and Origins
But I don't get this, I need an explanation, oh wait are you also one of those mind*** that never have the guts to leave the stage, and actually talk it out. man, you guys are bores.
Here's my question, to other commentators, since writers over here, are delicate phenomena that can't be put anywhere that may break their delicacy.
Writers. ?
Or maybe its just me, the word was never that mild in my dictionary.
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So here's the question, your absence,
You say 'Urdu' is part of the unifying factor of MQM identity? is that right? [oh you'll never come to tell me whether it is right]
How can this be right though, when Urdu is my language, I just know it, its part of my identity. And thank god i don't belong to Altaf Hussain ignited movements.
I'm sorry if I read it all the wrong way, as you all know, [peope who do respond] I am a novice at all this.
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 5, 2008 09:32 am
Wow this was like reading how the Nazi-Party came to be, in the 30s, and how Hitler got to their 'sensitive' needs. But I don't get this, I need an explanation, oh wait are you also one of those mind*** that never have the guts to leave the stage, and actually talk it out. man, you guys are bores.
Here's my question, to other commentators, since writers over here, are delicate phenomena that can't be put anywhere that may break their delicacy.
Writers. ?
Or maybe its just me, the word was never that mild in my dictionary.
---
So here's the question, your absence,
You say 'Urdu' is part of the unifying factor of MQM identity? is that right? [oh you'll never come to tell me whether it is right]
How can this be right though, when Urdu is my language, I just know it, its part of my identity. And thank god i don't belong to Altaf Hussain ignited movements.
I'm sorry if I read it all the wrong way, as you all know, [peope who do respond] I am a novice at all this.
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Fathers and Daughters
These are complicated times, or perhaps since always we've been trained to act like brutal animals with no reign over our impulses.
I hear what you said, and I know its not easy to say all this, this piece was written on very strange blank areas, and I understand it could speak to people who have known this in different ways.
You have to be sensitive to the other, when he reads, when he responds.
But there's no way to teach people this anymore, since in school we are taught how to get grades that can kill everyone else. We excel.
I saw that this guy's response bothered you, and your second response was far more quiet than the first.
I suppose one day we will all quieten down. and there's nothing i can do about it.
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Ejaz, Humera,
Thank you. I know you know.
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 5, 2008 08:51 am
Dania --These are complicated times, or perhaps since always we've been trained to act like brutal animals with no reign over our impulses.
I hear what you said, and I know its not easy to say all this, this piece was written on very strange blank areas, and I understand it could speak to people who have known this in different ways.
You have to be sensitive to the other, when he reads, when he responds.
But there's no way to teach people this anymore, since in school we are taught how to get grades that can kill everyone else. We excel.
I saw that this guy's response bothered you, and your second response was far more quiet than the first.
I suppose one day we will all quieten down. and there's nothing i can do about it.
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Ejaz, Humera,
Thank you. I know you know.
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Fathers and Daughters
I'm leaving. Its been a long day.
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 5, 2008 01:17 am
yeah that's what I was saying, forget it. This is too complicated. I'm leaving. Its been a long day.
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dania
suffice to say that overhearing a conversation between my seven year old and her school friend .... her describing me as her 'bestest' friend in the whole world ... I don't think I need any other form of 'father-daughter communication' to validate our relashionship!
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You're trying to equate it with a lady whose father passed away a few years ago. Death complicates things. Wouldn't you agree? how do you 'validate' that communication?
Does it stop? This is another question, for another time.
Everybody has their own experiences, if you don't that's great.
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 5, 2008 01:11 am
I meant this response:dania
suffice to say that overhearing a conversation between my seven year old and her school friend .... her describing me as her 'bestest' friend in the whole world ... I don't think I need any other form of 'father-daughter communication' to validate our relashionship!
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You're trying to equate it with a lady whose father passed away a few years ago. Death complicates things. Wouldn't you agree? how do you 'validate' that communication?
Does it stop? This is another question, for another time.
Everybody has their own experiences, if you don't that's great.
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and the 'got to make it work' yeah I got it covered in my article.
How you have made these leaps and bounds, and mixing someone relationship to a father that passed away, with your silly notions of "Im a father." Get over it.
Grow up. You're gonna need to. If you want to teach your daughter how to do so.
: )
Smiling angelically**
daughters do that very well too, you know. : )
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 5, 2008 01:05 am
I'm also talking about a time Cheema, than the things at hand were more than puppets, toy-shows, and trips to wonderland.and the 'got to make it work' yeah I got it covered in my article.
How you have made these leaps and bounds, and mixing someone relationship to a father that passed away, with your silly notions of "Im a father." Get over it.
Grow up. You're gonna need to. If you want to teach your daughter how to do so.
: )
Smiling angelically**
daughters do that very well too, you know. : )
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Though there's no doubt that your dad's your first hero, when you're a little girl. And thats cool too. I don't know what you're so angry about. she's just 7. Relax. get ready..its gonna be some ride.
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 5, 2008 01:01 am
Cheema, whatever works for you man. I hope you guys get an easy ride. For me it was tough and 'real.' Though there's no doubt that your dad's your first hero, when you're a little girl. And thats cool too. I don't know what you're so angry about. she's just 7. Relax. get ready..its gonna be some ride.
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 4, 2008 03:33 pm
Dania, oh yes, you are welkomed here.....we are a lost race, but we mean well, really we do. We even play music, and let everyone know exactly what we feel. Stay.معرآج
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I think Mr. Ijaz Gul's response came from a heart who knew of the suffering, which you're just a novice at.
Diana, here's what a Philosophy Professor in N.Y who is now a friend, writes about this article.
[Note for Everyone: Prof. S. Konecky is brilliant and sharp, never misses a thing, and by god it was tough being his student. He teaches Existentialism and Ethics at Hartwick College, N.Y, and his special area is Sartre's work.]
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Fatima,
Sweet! Whether your father knew or knows he is a lucky man for his moon daughter, who understands the tenuousness of relations, especially father daughter relations. "
Phew! If after these years and experience (also 'as a father') he can say this, it tells me already what kind of man, makes the better man. Not the one who pretends [no Konecky, as every existentialist, could never do that], it is the one who has the guts to see things as they are. The 'terrible angst' of life. Yes, captain, I remember....existentialist angst.
[Its a Philosophy, over at the other side of things, Cheema, the Sartrian crowd feels not just is there NO relation without angst, there's no life without it.
They go further to say:
"A life without acknowledgment of the 'tenuousness' of ordinary occurrence, its essential angst, are lives lived in *bad faith* by people who never truly exist"
Here's some Sartre 101, for you. ; )
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 4, 2008 08:44 am
#24 Cheema, probably because she's 7, and at that age, dinosaurs, lion kings, are all your best friends, and your father is your only hero.I think Mr. Ijaz Gul's response came from a heart who knew of the suffering, which you're just a novice at.
Diana, here's what a Philosophy Professor in N.Y who is now a friend, writes about this article.
[Note for Everyone: Prof. S. Konecky is brilliant and sharp, never misses a thing, and by god it was tough being his student. He teaches Existentialism and Ethics at Hartwick College, N.Y, and his special area is Sartre's work.]
"
Fatima,
Sweet! Whether your father knew or knows he is a lucky man for his moon daughter, who understands the tenuousness of relations, especially father daughter relations. "
Phew! If after these years and experience (also 'as a father') he can say this, it tells me already what kind of man, makes the better man. Not the one who pretends [no Konecky, as every existentialist, could never do that], it is the one who has the guts to see things as they are. The 'terrible angst' of life. Yes, captain, I remember....existentialist angst.
[Its a Philosophy, over at the other side of things, Cheema, the Sartrian crowd feels not just is there NO relation without angst, there's no life without it.
They go further to say:
"A life without acknowledgment of the 'tenuousness' of ordinary occurrence, its essential angst, are lives lived in *bad faith* by people who never truly exist"
Here's some Sartre 101, for you. ; )
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 4, 2008 02:11 am
good men die too soon. maybe Bali could have lived...but the music is all that has remained.معرآج
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"I assure you the other side is far more complicated and solitary."
Rabia's comment was from 'the opposite' side.
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 3, 2008 11:57 pm
Gul Sahib, mei iss jumlei ka zikr kar rahee thee..."I assure you the other side is far more complicated and solitary."
Rabia's comment was from 'the opposite' side.
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 3, 2008 10:42 pm
oh its laddu again, 'off' as usual. Phir se parho, unpardh, jahil. معرآج
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I do protest, Mr. Gul, we have quite a side of our own..you should visit some time. :P
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Posted by
MeiraJ08
Oct 3, 2008 10:19 pm
lol Rabia, we were the ones with the silver bangles, and they, the ones with the cash and cures. ; )I do protest, Mr. Gul, we have quite a side of our own..you should visit some time. :P
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An absence is cruel, is it not?
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MeiraJ08
Oct 3, 2008 08:33 pm
NHK, here you can have me, I belong to this community. An absence is cruel, is it not?
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