'bhai' kaiser ...read my post..i m asking u to bet on lesser evil...hillary would be worse than obama for muslims..even if its by a whisker ...i would like to play the odds..

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AIPAC is all over US politics and i am not convinced that bama would stay too aloof from them either, he hasnt been around long enough to make a lot of alliances with special interests just yet.

Time will tell, at present it will likely be status quo internally no matter who wins, except mccain is gunning for 100 years of war.

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Yarr aapp paRhay likhayy logg iss qadarr jahalt parr mabnii guftugoo kaysay karlaytay hoo boss. Get this in your heads. Whether its hillary, obama or mickey mouse...they will all bomb pakistan if pakistan doesnt get her own house in order. If you dont want foreign forces intervening in your matters than clean up the mess that you have.

And by mess i dont mean FATA. I mean the mockery of civil institutions at the hands of one. We must sit down with the tribals and explain to them that they are not to mess in afghanistan and foreign countries in return they should be able to hang people who commit murder. Its not all that diff from pakistan penal code. Anyone with a shred of knowledge about american politics understand that hillary is in bed with AIPAC and AIPAC puts neo-cons to shame when it comes to muslim hatred. We live in america, our generations will be living here, we should support people who will look after the civil liberties of our people in this country..first and foremost. Obama isnt the best friends of muslims either but i reckon he will be a lesser evil, and thats what its about.

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kaiser

Mccain needs to be kept out of office and hence democrats should not hate either bama or billary.

Agreed

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[[by kaiser
[[although i think he is universally found charming, although charm should not beat out substance]]

Well, kaiser
I think you didn't read my prior post on this charming stuff about obama...

Anyway, what do you call universal charming?

I take it as charming for blacks, whites, browns...
In that case, why brown women(including me)Indian and Pakistanis, and white women, asian woman that I have done my own survey find Obama ugly?

Except, Black women. And the reason for Black women to find him charming is two reasons, identity/recognition.
and second is Black women and black men have a completely different taste for perception of charming.

Yes, may be some variants are there, but, when you say international , it means all races.....

May be you or some of your circles find him charming but absolutely not in my circles of friends, neighbors, co workers and relatives.....

As for as Ron Paul is , he is the best in all this political saga.......But, the man doesn't have strong backup.
If, I would be given the chance to elect the President , that would be Ron Paul....but, again world doesn't go that way......

Now, all others are evils , Obama is the top one among evils....But, in my fair opinion Hillary is less of an evil......

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Zeena Zeemax and Hurricaine,

1. Ron Paul could be a serial killer in person and he would still be more benign for the world than any liberal or conservative amreeki president in history. This is because he doesnt believe in state sponsored aggression.

As for being a wingnut ...and a preacher and maybe also a rascist ....i think most of that is right wing propaganda to tarnish his image because unlike billary bama etc this guy actually threatens the status quo.

2. Bama ...lol...shall not comment on his desirability although i think he is universally found charming, although charm should not beat out substance.

3. Billary, she is in many ways as conservative as Mccain however a very shrewd cookie with a great husband and so far the least likely to beat up on Pakistan for votes (although once made prez she will probably do anything she is told to ....she'll be as likely to bomb as bama ...both of these less likely than McCain)

Bottom line, Mccain needs to be kept out of office and hence democrats should not hate either bama or billary.

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kaiser
And I know there are some groups who are Hillary haters and they don't wish her to be the next President, they have even bought CNN who is always backlashing Hillary and projecting Obama....very biased propaganda by CNN b/c CNN is being paid for this propaganda.

CNN is doing everything possible to brainwash common Americans NOT to vote for Hillary and that makes me believe more and more that Hillary is the right candidate.

CNN is absolutely an INVALID media which has had been brainwashing common Americans against Muslims for the last decade....

Last night when Glenn Beck(the man I strongly hate)( who is infamously known as sexist, racist and bigot... who is always abusing, harrassing Muslims and doing an extremely hateful and negative propaganda against Muslims and exclusively against Pakistan) strongly supported OBAMA , I knew right then, ahaaa....Obama is the worst one.....

Glenn Beck, was saying,"folks, we need a guy like obama , not any woman..." who can handle Pakistan with force, that was enough for me to see through......

CNN has lost it's validity for me. I believe whatever CNN says , we should believe and trust in the opposite thing.
CNN is a liar, bigoted and biased and has been sold against Hillary.....

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by kaiser
[[Obama is like the guy every woman wants to date and every man wants to have a beer with]]

I beg to differ completely on this with my fellow interactor, called kaiser....

Le'me tell you my own experience during this whole political drama.

I have NOT even witnessed or seen a single WHITE woman including my colleagues, nurses and other staff find Obama as attractive. Rather they call him a wolf b/c of his resemblance to the face of a wolf. They find him ugly.
Not based on color, but based on his weak personality and ugly featurs.

Now, lets see Hispanic women, they hate Obama more based on his ugly features.

Yes, BLACK women find him IDOL and extremely Handsome. And that's quite understandable. OBAMA is their recognition.

I asked multiple Pakistani women , they expressed the same disgust.
Almost all find Mitt Romney very attractive......except for Black women.

Black women I have noticed have very different taste.
I myself find Mitt Romney quite handsome man, but Obama is just look alike wolf.

Obama's propaganda about change is fooling some morons who can be trapped easily in these words without seeing what they need.

America is already revolutionized, it needs some improvements in it's current issues, but it doesn't need any revolution.

Let me ask you a question....
When we say ,'change", it means change the current situation to improve lives of humanbeings and that means revolution..........

America has already surpassed the tough test of revolution and that's the main reason America is standing on the revolutinized infrastructure which is unshakable....

We need revolution in societies like Pakistan, Kenya etc, etc. where poverty is prevailing and where corruption is engulfing common citizens....yes, we do need change there....

As for America is all we need is an experienced , seasoned, tough, bright and courageous leader like Hillary....


Hillary with excellent resumes and credentials....
Obama with no resumes and no credentials......just with one word,"change".

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Yeah Ron Paul is very powerful ... but isn't he an evangelist?

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What's with this Bama thingy? We already have a 'bama mama' (Ms. Rice) and now we have an 'O'bama

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www.dipdive.com

Obama is the touchup that america needs. You can't really fix the system, cause the system is going down. But you can make it look tolerant and motivational and cool while that's happening

Yes we can. Yes we can

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