Post by hamza_yusufzai,

Thanks for the fair remark. I fully acknowledge the legitimate vote bank of the party as well as the work done by Mustafa Kemal. I don't think the establishment will initiate anything, but it appears Pir Saheb doesn't want to give up Karachi's control by hook or by crook.

I really think MQM supporters should demand a change in leadership of their party. No one in the rest of the country trusts people like Altaf Hussain, Imran Farooq, Ishrat-ul-Ibad, Haider Abbas Rizvi etc. Without these people, I honestly believe MQM will get a LOT more support EVEN in Punjab. These are the black sheep who bring a bad name to Karachi and its residents.

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Every time i hear him ...i get embarrassed that he represents my city..its like hearing a really really mad teen dabbay wala..soo i avoid it as muh as humanly possible..i will tell u this though...i know for a fact that the inner circles of MQM have told this 2 kullo shareef that they will bounce back from may 12th because of enormous work by mustafa kaml...but we r still on thin ice n the ppl of khi r not going to put up with the shenningans of 90'ss....having said that if the estab. tried to make us the next enemy by replacing FATA than all bets r off...if MQM instigates it than ..it will hurt thier vote bank in khi

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Post by hamza_yusufzai,

Okay Qibla, kauaransh baja laata hoon. Serious question:

Do you see a repeat of the 90s if MQM is not included in the new Sindh Govt by PPP? Consider Pir Saheb's open threats exhorting MQM women workers to prepare to manage 90 Azizabad (HQ) while MQM men go underground?

Did you hear that telephone speech at all?

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U r realy not very familiar with khi politics of 90's n this isnt to brag because i think it was a mindless carnage just like the one going on in FATA...but for every MQM karkun that PSF took out... MQM killed 3....all the DSP's and sho's who were notorious for killing MQM workers were met with 'accidents' in the past 5 years..EACH and EVERY ONE OF THEM...except shoaib suddell....wat MQM couldnt fight with was ARMY...n very few really can...the lesson learnt was that u dont fukk with us n we dont fukk with u..thats why the same Army that were telling the nation that MQM is making jinnah poor..7 years later were courting the same peer kullo shareef

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who fukked who is a coin flip really...u get a hard on when u heard irfan bahadur, cahudhry sarwar and zeeshan kazmi drilled holes in human beings..however when the tide turned most them are occupants of Gora Qabrustan...n MQM sat pretty in governor house with the entire province of sind at its mercy for the last 5 years. Would u say musharaf is fukking the tribals now? See this is where the hate comes in....MQM isnt any more or less anti-state than Taliban, ANP or JSQM but u hate MQM and mohajirs with extra verve because the only qaum punjabis really have 2 be threatened by r urdu speaking....

i dont endorse it but believe me i get it. My point is this if democracy is going to flourish in Pakistan than we can not deny the mandate of the people just because we dont like one party...i told u that i have no doubt MQM rigged but if 0% rigging had taken place ...chaudhry salim zia still couldnt win from azizabad...if u want 2 marginalize MQM than tell nawaz sharif to help make policies that r pro provincial autonomy and when if state leashes its brutality in our neighborhoods like it did in 90's than speak out against that oppression as well...we like imran but wat we hate is selective morality.

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... and yes ... ..it may be disastrous strategy to not recognize the vote bank of MQM only in MQM mind because of their badmaashi (listen to Pir Saheb's rtecent threats). Benazir and Naseerullah Babar fcked that votebank in 1994-5 and now these beygharats are again looking towards PPP for a coalition Govt with them in it, when PPP doesn't need them at all and keeps rebuffing their overtures

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Post by hamza_yusufzai,

Haleem Siddiqui is Punjabi? Now Bhai Saheb ... you're spreading it a bit too thin. Siddiquis are Punjabis I was married to a Siddiqui and she never told me

..he won from the constituency thats primarily punjabi speaking.

He won from NA-250 which stretches from Keamari to the edge of Drigh Road and includes entire Defense (all phases), Clifton, Mehmoodabad, Kalapul surrounding areas etc.

Is it a Punjabi majority area

C'mon Bhai ... I'll let you off the hook.

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Haleem siddiqi is punjabi thru n thru..he won from the constituency thats primarily punjabi speaking. Would u say MQM is as treasonous or more than ANP, Bugti, Mengal, Qadir Nagsi etc.? I hope u get the sarcasm in my tone. I m no fan of MQM ...n i truly find N's leadership to have the most honorable stand in todays politics....but i think its a disastrous strategy to not recognize the vote bank of MQM.

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Senetor Colonel Tariq Mashhadi punjabi speaking, Nisar Punhar ..member exec. commitee sindhi speaking, Iqbal randhawa memeber coordination committee punjabi speaking..

How many of them actually won seats in a poll (senators don't count even if this Mashhadi guy is one or even a Punjabi) or became Governors or Federal Ministers

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... I just hate MQM which is a treasonous and treacherous gang of thugs. I'll never deny what I think about MQM.

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Post by hamza_yusufzai,

Governor Sindh is not a Leader? That's news to me.

What about Haleem Siddiqui? He won NA-250 and was the Shipping Minister in NS government. No leader as well?

Anyway, I'm disappointed you say "...at ground level u hate our gutts as bhayyas and we hate urs as paindoos...."

That's at-least not my feeling. Certainly not. Ask cliftonbridge.

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zee hahahahahaha..so one mamnoon hussein ...n he isnt leadership ...if thats the criteria than..lets see. Senetor Colonel Tariq Mashhadi punjabi speaking, Nisar Punhar ..member exec. commitee sindhi speaking, Iqbal randhawa memeber coordination committee punjabi speaking.... the entire leadership of MQM punjab unit is punajbi speaking and so on n so forth in rest of the provinces...the irony is that the leadership of N in karachi is punjabi speaking...but i digress ...like i said its juvenile debate to have ...i understand that its cosmetics...at ground level u hate our gutts as bhayyas and we hate urs as paindoos....personally i love em all as my brothers n sisters in Islam except maulana fazloo..hate that motherfukker

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... and yes, they had a seat-adjustment with PPP in Sindh, and didn't field any candidates in Baluchistan because of time pressure. Remember, Sharif brothers were only allowed back ONE day before the LAST date of nominations filing. That was part of the pre-poll rigging.

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Post by hamza_yusufzai,

could you tell me how many seats have N won from sarhad, balochistan and sind.

Is Hazara included in NWFP? Do count how many from there in the election results.

And i am also interested in finding out which leadership of N is urdu speaking...

Which ethnicity is the ex-governor Sindh Mamnoon Hussain Sir???

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I have no qualms in accepting that MQM is a regional party and no non-urdu speaking in his cadre, although they do try to appoint punjabi speaking and sindhi speaking senetors for political correctness, this is no different than ANP, or Muslim league N for that matter, could you tell me how many seats have N won from sarhad, balochistan and sind. And i am also interested in finding out which leadership of N is urdu speaking...not that it matters to me..i hope we r beyond that..at least those of us who have graduated high school

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What's so different here?

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